[Archived] Henning Berg - Rovers Manager

[Ossydave]

Ive a feeling his ugly head will rise somewhere very soon, it's the perfect time. Sky have been repeatedly mentioning his name recently and there's been mention of him often in the written press as well, even Savage and Collymore have got in on the act. Something is afoot and his stage managed re-entry will be soon i think !

I refuse to watch Sky TBH but that comes as no surprise!

Has Kean actually been seen since he left us?

[den]

Gav - one of your better posts. I agree with everything you said.

Bob - you're dead right about Singh.

Ewoodbehappy - I also agree that everything stems from the very top.

Almost all of us [almost] see what's happened and what is stil happening. Things aren't going to change for some time yet. For me, it's just a matter of where the bottom line is. That's currently a big, big worry.

[PAFELL]

I was prepared to give anybody who took on the managers job a chance. But Berg is now blowing his.

Yes he inherited a bad squad - but even Eric Black got them organised, especailly in defence, in his few matches.

If Berg is having others stick their nose's in, such as shebby singh. This would happen with whoever had the job. The manager, whoever it is. Must be allowed to manage, without others influencing him.

Singh is not doing any good for the club. Berg must now be on borrowed time - which would also mean singh.

Promotion, no chance at this rate.

Hughes is available now !!!!!!!!!

[thenodrog]

They already are aren't they Ossydave? I have heard the radio saying about Blackburn fans getting what they wished for and now look at them etc.

As if result weren't bad enough, the longer this goes on, the better it makes Kean look.

No way. You are exhibiting Jim-like selective memory. Just like Blair and Brown feathered their own nests and then left the country broke and impoverished for someone else to clean up so Kean feathered his and left the club in it's current state. I'd love to know how much Dastardly and Muttley are still benefitting financially from their raft of dodgy ins and outs.

[neophox]

Could we see Mikael Silvestre join rovers soon? 35 year old quoted he could join Rovers or Bolton on a free. Is currently in England after playing for Werder Bremen. Training with Man Utd,

What did Hughes do with QPR? Do you really think he can take us up? I really don't know.

[thenodrog]

Gav - one of your better posts. I agree with everything you said.

Thats cos he's finally come around to agreeing with us Den. I knew he would have to eventually after wagging his tail and rolling over when the slumdogs first trapped up like so many others. I expect he'll be forming a Sam Allardyce fan club soon.

Keep it up Gav and make sure you keep listening to your Uncle Den and Uncle Drog.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

No way. You are exhibiting Jim-like selective memory. Just like Blair and Brown feathered their own nests and then left the country broke and impoverished for someone else to clean up so Kean feathered his and left the club in it's current state. I'd love to know how much Dastardly and Muttley are still benefitting financially from their raft of dodgy ins and outs.

I seem to remember something about some bankers having a role in the financial crisis.

Anyway back to our own crisis - Is a 35 year old Silvestre any better than Givet ? Of course we could always sign him and then not play him, that's what we normally do.

[yoda]

I seem to remember something about some bankers having a role in the financial crisis.

Anyway back to our own crisis - Is a 35 year old Silvestre any better than Givet ? Of course we could always sign him and then not play him, that's what we normally do.

some bankers took the kean due to non effective government

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

some bankers took the kean due to non effective government

I seem to remember the government of the time taking pretty effective action to deal with the crisis once the magnitude of the problem revealed itself. Then the apprentices took over, we know the rest.

[rovers11]

I would suspect henning's future is hanging in the balance. With january coming up, they have to decide whether he is the right man to spend the january money. Personally, I think if he doesn't win any of the next 3 then he'll be out.

I'm disappointed how he has made us wide open at the back. We look like conceding every time the opposition come forward. Some of that is down to personal but a large part of that is down to the manager and his tactics. Black got them organised defensively so it can be done with this team.

Expected Berg to have got the team far more organised. We have also resorted back to hoofball.

Hughes would take the job. He won't get another prem job for a while after the disaster at QPR.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Some tough decisions coming up fror the lunes from Pune. Given the fact they can't get the easy decisions right I fear the worst.

[jim mk2]

No way. You are exhibiting Jim-like selective memory. Just like Blair and Brown feathered their own nests and then left the country broke and impoverished for someone else to clean up so Kean feathered his and left the club in it's current state. I'd love to know how much Dastardly and Muttley are still benefitting financially from their raft of dodgy ins and outs.

Nothing to do with bankers bankrupting the financial system and the worldwide fiscal crisis then. Selective memory indeed.

Your opinions are worthless anyway because you don't vote.

[martonrover]

Some tough decisions coming up fror the lunes from Pune. Given the fact they can't get the easy decisions right I fear the worst.

Indeed, Venketash will be shaving off his hair owing to the 'shock and confusion' today.

If there really are willing buyers out there why don't they just cut their losses and clear off. Better for us and them.

[Commondore]

I would suspect henning's future is hanging in the balance. With january coming up, they have to decide whether he is the right man to spend the january money. Personally, I think if he doesn't win any of the next 3 then he'll be out.

I'm disappointed how he has made us wide open at the back. We look like conceding every time the opposition come forward. Some of that is down to personal but a large part of that is down to the manager and his tactics. Black got them organised defensively so it can be done with this team.

Expected Berg to have got the team far more organised. We have also resorted back to hoofball.

Hughes would take the job. He won't get another prem job for a while after the disaster at QPR.

The hoofball yesterday wasn't a tactical choice, it was all down to Cardiff closing our defenders and midfielders down forcing them to lump the ball forward in panic.

Also, I'd say Hughes has by now proven his colors as both an oppurtnuistic turncoat (resigned from Fulham out of the blue when bigger jobs loomed at the horizon) and completely clueless with money to spend.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

Whats the point in talking about removing Venkys. They don't want to sell and even if they did, nobody wants to buy. The only thing we can do is appoint a manager able to operate reasonably effectively amidst the madness. Black was doing ok at it, and I hate to say it but so was Kean this season. With 6 points from 8 games Berg is failing miserably, he needs to go, there's no point in prolonging this diabolical run.

[jim mk2]

Whats the point in talking about removing Venkys. They don't want to sell and even if they did, nobody wants to buy. The only thing we can do is appoint a manager able to operate reasonably effectively amidst the madness. Black was doing ok at it, and I hate to say it but so was Kean this season. With 6 points from 8 games Berg is failing miserably, he needs to go, there's no point in prolonging this diabolical run.

I think they will be open to selling if we are relegated again. Even they will realise there is no point owning a loss-making third division club. Whether anyone would be willing to pay the likely very high price they would look for is another matter.

[USABlue]

Jim, we might be struggling but there is no way that we wont muster another 17 points from 25 games !

That's it we are doomed now.

[Rover_Shaun]

I'd say Hughes has by now proven his colors................completely clueless with money to spend.

He'd have no problem at Ewood then ;-)

Why are people surprised that Berg is proving to be rather clueless? After all it was on the cards after this scenario

Berg "You would have to be mad to work for Rovers' owners"

BIG WAD OF CASH WAVED UNDER HIS NOSE

Berg "Where do I sign"

Berg is now making Kean look like the scottish Enzo Bearzot. Astounding!

IS it time for someone to start a new signature???? ;-)

Berg's Record P7 W1 D3 L3 F10 A13 Pts7 Win% 14

[Majiball]

Given comments on here I'd like to raise a few points:

Who knows what's going on behind the scenes least we forget that even though Bradley Orr has flown the nest the majority of those players are Kean's lads and we could have chaos for all anyone knows. Berg regardless of perceived opinion has walked into a really keany situation and not one most would envy. Life under Kean was known to be a breeze, little training, pandering to desires, not what you need in a professional environment. Others within the camp had obviously little respect for 'the manager role', people used to being that way through habit. Kean was here two years that environment has been the norm for a long time and that will always change those ( a negative environment is hardly likely to make a positive change despite Kean's) within it. Turning that round with players accustomed to being treated and acting that way will never happen over night with only Berg. The shock factor, kick-up the ass syndrome was almost never going to occur as one voice regardless of rank is never enough (especially not a name, he's not as a manager), when Berg isn't there what gets said?

One thing that always comes when a new man takes charge is everyone must prove themselves (start again), more than one voice comes in. So no matter where the players & staff are you always have men who back the manager, support his ideals and decisions and so negative talk occurs little and the environment changes. I can't help but think given results and performances since Berg came back that all is far from rosy behind the scenes. The reason I say this is we lack fight, aggression, commitment and desire so badly on the pitch & the attitude from the players just seems the same as when Kean was here. Little has changed footballing wise, we can't retain possession, we can't defend, we don't press as a team or with intensity and the same could be said of our attacking play. Even if Berg is coaching, is demanding from the players and setting standards, it's obviously not getting through. It could just be the coaching isn't good enough but one voice amongst near on 50 is a struggle if you're not established and instantly respected. Berg seriously needs to bring in new people, his people for change to truly start as quickly as needed in football, it's days to the next game as always. The fact he hasn't just lends another question over his role and authority ala kean's rein.

However another aspect to be considered is that nothing truly has changed except the 'face' at rovers as far as I can see at present. I've been told Berg applied for the Bury job and yet got nowhere with it. He's not had a job in a while and who knows why but generally in football it's not a good sign. Just look at Phil Brown from premier league to applying for Limerick. Sam's old assistant doing Sam's career in reverse. But the point is if Berg wasn't considered good enough for a league one team (if his application is true) seriously up the keanster financially, how desperate is he to get back into the game? Would he be willing to do as told to get what he wants, a managers role? Would he be willing to accept certain restraints over his actions? Who knows? I hope not. I've heard he can hire and fire how he pleases and whilst I don't question who told me, at the end of the day his info is only as reliable as his source. Alas, though Berg has come in and hired/fired no-one and we all know that's not normal in football. Terry Connor swiftly removed and just as swiftly back alongside McCarthy, trust is a big issue in football, why Berg hasn't brought in a man he trusts or knows baffles me, it's not normal. Even hiring a new man he hasn't worked with, someone he has hired and so is loyal to him, it's not a good sign. The man who said 'who on earth would work for these clowns' ala shebby's 'sack Kean' comment, has walked in after saying who would and changed nothing. After discovering he potentially wasn't considered good enough for Bury. Footballs a drug and being away from something you've known all your life (it all starts aged 8, what careers do?) affects people in different ways, you never know.

There's no questioning (and there isn't) we have some players with serious pedigree for the level we play at currently. We have seriously seasoned internationals at our club and few at this level do. Provided they can still physically cope or can be made to cope (given their ages) they are capable of much better than they are currently producing. Where is their motivation, their pride I don't see it in their play and so don't think they have it in themselves at present. They'll never play close to their best until that changes and I don't see that happening soon as the 'change' required to affect that doesn't appear to have occurred. People keep talking about fitness being an issue but improving fitness in football requires either high intensity running/playing or maximal effort. I don't see it on the pitch so I don't think it's going on in training. How does one make a player who doesn't give a kean, sprint at his best, play with his best effort when mentally he has no desire, motivation or incline to do so? It all requires constant effort and commitment, you can have a word and they'll up it for a day or two and then revert back to type. Improving these aspects takes weeks and if they only exert themselves in spits and spats it won't work. Trouble is because I don't see this occurring to date under Berg, it again makes me think one voice isn't enough or the voice hasn't truly changed. Also consider that our head of sports science has left along with another one, so we're two staff down in this area and yet no-ones come in and if rumours are true we tried to hire a man who cannot work in this country and persist in trying to hire him. No manager of any ilke from what I know would tolerate that and bring in his own man. Although those who left are on gardening leave and suing the club for constructive dismissal so maybe finance is an issue, but given Kings signing I'll assume we have some money available.

Either Berg is fighting a losing battle behind the scenes or quite simply it's same old same old at Rovers. But one thing definitely hasn't happened at Rovers since Berg came along and that's change of any type it seems to be the same game but new players and that has me keaning bricks for Rovers at present. Hopefully Berg is just taking his time to find his feet but I can't help but think on what I've seen and read so far that things are still far from right at Rovers.

[ABBEY]

I was prepared to give anybody who took on the managers job a chance. But Berg is now blowing his.

Yes he inherited a bad squad - but even Eric Black got them organised, especailly in defence, in his few matches.

If Berg is having others stick their nose's in, such as shebby singh. This would happen with whoever had the job. The manager, whoever it is. Must be allowed to manage, without others influencing him.

Singh is not doing any good for the club. Berg must now be on borrowed time - which would also mean singh.

Promotion, no chance at this rate.

Hughes is available now !!!!!!!!!

Promotion ? Has it ever been on ? We've been kean since the turds took over.

Hughes ? So he can walk ? No thanks

[Ossydave]

We need to start thinking more about relegation than promotion

[AggyBlue]

We need to start thinking more about relegation than promotion

I think most of us are

[Gav]

Thats cos he's finally come around to agreeing with us Den. I knew he would have to eventually after wagging his tail and rolling over when the slumdogs first trapped up like so many others. I expect he'll be forming a Sam Allardyce fan club soon.

Keep it up Gav and make sure you keep listening to your Uncle Den and Uncle Drog.

Bunkum!

I doubt we'll ever agree on anything more than our favourite restaurants Gordon, but nothing wrong in that.

[Aberdeen Blue]

Good post Maj.

[Athlete]

Given comments on here I'd like to raise a few points:

Who knows what's going on behind the scenes least we forget that even though Bradley Orr has flown the nest the majority of those players are Kean's lads and we could have chaos for all anyone knows. Berg regardless of perceived opinion has walked into a really keany situation and not one most would envy. Life under Kean was known to be a breeze, little training, pandering to desires, not what you need in a professional environment. Others within the camp had obviously little respect for 'the manager role', people used to being that way through habit. Kean was here two years that environment has been the norm for a long time and that will always change those ( a negative environment is hardly likely to make a positive change despite Kean's) within it. Turning that round with players accustomed to being treated and acting that way will never happen over night with only Berg. The shock factor, kick-up the ass syndrome was almost never going to occur as one voice regardless of rank is never enough (especially not a name, he's not as a manager), when Berg isn't there what gets said?

One thing that always comes when a new man takes charge is everyone must prove themselves (start again), more than one voice comes in. So no matter where the players & staff are you always have men who back the manager, support his ideals and decisions and so negative talk occurs little and the environment changes. I can't help but think given results and performances since Berg came back that all is far from rosy behind the scenes. The reason I say this is we lack fight, aggression, commitment and desire so badly on the pitch & the attitude from the players just seems the same as when Kean was here. Little has changed footballing wise, we can't retain possession, we can't defend, we don't press as a team or with intensity and the same could be said of our attacking play. Even if Berg is coaching, is demanding from the players and setting standards, it's obviously not getting through. It could just be the coaching isn't good enough but one voice amongst near on 50 is a struggle if you're not established and instantly respected. Berg seriously needs to bring in new people, his people for change to truly start as quickly as needed in football, it's days to the next game as always. The fact he hasn't just lends another question over his role and authority ala kean's rein.

However another aspect to be considered is that nothing truly has changed except the 'face' at rovers as far as I can see at present. I've been told Berg applied for the Bury job and yet got nowhere with it. He's not had a job in a while and who knows why but generally in football it's not a good sign. Just look at Phil Brown from premier league to applying for Limerick. Sam's old assistant doing Sam's career in reverse. But the point is if Berg wasn't considered good enough for a league one team (if his application is true) seriously up the keanster financially, how desperate is he to get back into the game? Would he be willing to do as told to get what he wants, a managers role? Would he be willing to accept certain restraints over his actions? Who knows? I hope not. I've heard he can hire and fire how he pleases and whilst I don't question who told me, at the end of the day his info is only as reliable as his source. Alas, though Berg has come in and hired/fired no-one and we all know that's not normal in football. Terry Connor swiftly removed and just as swiftly back alongside McCarthy, trust is a big issue in football, why Berg hasn't brought in a man he trusts or knows baffles me, it's not normal. Even hiring a new man he hasn't worked with, someone he has hired and so is loyal to him, it's not a good sign. The man who said 'who on earth would work for these clowns' ala shebby's 'sack Kean' comment, has walked in after saying who would and changed nothing. After discovering he potentially wasn't considered good enough for Bury. Footballs a drug and being away from something you've known all your life (it all starts aged 8, what careers do?) affects people in different ways, you never know.

Either Berg is fighting a losing battle behind the scenes or quite simply it's same old same old at Rovers. But one thing definitely hasn't happened at Rovers since Berg came along and that's change of any type it seems to be the same game but new players and that has me keaning bricks for Rovers at present. Hopefully Berg is just taking his time to find his feet but I can't help but think on what I've seen and read so far that things are still far from right at Rovers.

good points there he did apply for the Bury Job http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/19696932...got nowhere near http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/football-league/league-two/120926/exclusive-%E2%80%93-former-man-united-ace-berg-would-consider-bury-job-18

what normally happens a new manager comes in with his own backroom staff , the team picks up as most try and impress the new managerial team by putting in that extra percentage - none of which has happened at Rovers how ever you dress it up 1 win in 8 in this league with the players in our squad isn't good enougth and then when he was interviewed Berg said cardiff had more experience thats the sort of crap coco would come out with FFS