[Archived] Henning Berg - Rovers Manager

[G Somerset Rover]

The difference this time is that Berg is Singh's man.

With Berg struggling, Singh is also under pressure and I don't think he'll enjoy being painted as the bad guy.

Singh won't give a second thought to backtracking about automatic promotion - expect to hear this on Radio Lancashire this week. Party line will be 'it doesn't matter how we go up, play offs included'.

[danger19_80]

Singh won't give a second thought to backtracking about automatic promotion - expect to hear this on Radio Lancashire this week. Party line will be 'it doesn't matter how we go up, play offs included'.

Think that particular backtrack already happened a few months ago

[martonrover]

Singh won't give a second thought to backtracking about automatic promotion - expect to hear this on Radio Lancashire this week. Party line will be 'it doesn't matter how we go up, play offs included'.

Agreed, but things are going so badly he is sure to be feeling the heat.

[den]

Berg was a far greater gamble than McCarthy. Yes or no?

Of course. I said previously that McCarthy would have been my first choice. You obviously aren't understanding the conversation.

Nope. Nice try, though.

Really? You've now become Sam's biggest fan I guess.

I must say, Den, I find your stance confounding.

I don't know why, it's quite simple.

I'm sure Ipswich fans had a similar cynicism towards their own squad before McCarthy took over.

I'm sure the Ipswich fans are delighted with their form since McCarthy took over. To argue that offers proof that a] he could have done that with our squad, and b] it's proof that the quality of player can be overcome by a managers tactics is as I said, just downright wrong. The biggest way [that isn't to say only way] a manager can influence results isn't with tactics, but by bringing quality footballers in. The reason we're in this mess is because we've sold every quality player that we had - an entire team of them - and replaced them with a whole bunch of has been and never will be's. If you don't believe me, then Hansen said exactly this on Saturday night " we can talk formations and tactics as much as we like, but it's all about players."

It isn't just what he's done at Ipswich, though, is it?

He's proven numerous times that he's adept at managing in the Championship. He's like a poor man's Allardyce in that he'll invariably do well in this league through whatever means are necessary but can't quite hack it at top level in the way Allardyce can.

You're still missing the point DE4Life. You wont find me criticising McCarthy anywhere, but saying he "can't quite hack it at the top level" is a bit of an understatement. He's been awful in the top league. That still isn't my point though.

[Gav]

Anyhow that's me finished for tonight - got friends who are Burnley supporters coming round. Fun has already started as they sent the missus a claret and blue bouquet this morning with a card saying how much they were looking forward to tonight !!! B @ s t @ r d s !

So Burnley have been stuffed at Forest, couldn't beat the worst Rovers side in years and they're sending your missus a claret and blue bouquet because they're looking forward to coming round???

You're a strange one mercer and your dingle mates equally so....

[Rover_Shaun]

Berg still has my support like i said the other day. Those of you who are upset, fair enough, but i still have hopes that if Berg can shake up the squad in January, and we improve then great. If we dont go up, then we try again with a fresh squad, a better pre season, and hopefully a better backroom staff.

You are having a giraffe? No money, Rhodes sold to free up wages and financial doom means a LONG time in the doldrums. The clubs first ever real sustained period in tier 3 looms

[den]

Exactly, McCarthy is getting results with exactly the same players at a club struggling far more than us before the change of manager.

Yes mate, but what proof have you that at Ewood he could do the same. None. He might, or he might not. This club needs a huge clear out and rebuilding from the very top down. McCarthy wont change anything here as we currently stand.

[USABlue]

I can't believe some think that berg will get potted should we lose a few more. The same buffoons who wouldn't sack Kean despite 24 months of utter drivel? I'm just hoping that if Berg isn't up to the job then he walks with dignity, unlike his predecessor.

The look on Hennigs face last night towards the end of the game looked like he might just do that. He looked physically sick.

[Rover_Shaun]

He has certainly got Ipswich playing a bit better whereas Berg is making Kean look like a tactical and motivational genius.

People need to stop making excuses......when January brings no change no doubt the apologists will then start saying he needs a pre-season etc etc before we can judge

[USABlue]

Scary thing for me is it's eight games and he still hasn't figured out even a reasonable way of getting the ball to Rhodes how he needs it or often enough. Also for all those who are saying who we should have hired get over it, it was never going to happen with that 4 eyed idiot doing the hiring. All shebby wanted was a manager by name only I firmly believe he is playing a live version of footy manager. As Berg himself said you's have to be mad to come here and no one like McCarthy would have come here with Shebby interfering. They would have wanted SOLE responsibility and I don't think Singh is giving Berg that. New faces need FAST, the incumbents I am sure are undermining Berg even if only listening to player snivels.

I wonder if Berg might give a call to GAry Neville, would he come to help and what would people here think of a move like that? I continue to give Berg my support cos I just have a gut feeling he can turn it around, but the people in the shadows need to stay there. However, that said, if Henning continues to play players that are not performing I can not continue to support him. I think I see his reason, dropped bad Ollsen and Etuhu, I think his hope was that they would pick up their game but they need longer on the bench. What was needed was to drop them give the player coming in more time and let them sit on the bench till they showed DESIRE and APPLICATION to get back in the reckoning.

Stand tall Henning stand firm or tell shebby where to stick his FM Manager Live game.

[jim mk2]

It's odd that according to some people Berg is underperforming because he has not been able to bring his own staff in, or because he is lumbered with the useless hangers-on from the Kean era. But how do they know that ? For all they know Berg is perfectly happy with his backroom team and has no desire to make any changes. Some people also say there's no guarantee other managers would have done any better but that's pretty dumb because as things stand even Steve Kean based on his average points per game would have done better than the lamentable Berg. And some folk say it's all about players and and it doesn't matter who we have in charge because the players are all dross - which is equally stupid because any decent manager can improve any bunch of no-hopers no matter how poor they appear to be. The fact is six points out of 24 tells its own story - Rovers have appointed another lemon as manager and we are stuck with him until he resigns because on past form we all know the owners will not sack him.

[Silencio]

It's odd that according to some people Berg is underperforming because he has not been able to bring his own staff in, or because he is lumbered with the useless hangers-on from the Kean era. But how do they know that ? For all they know Berg is perfectly happy with his backroom team and has no desire to make any changes. Some people also say there's no guarantee other managers would have done any better but that's pretty dumb because as things stand even Steve Kean based on his average points per game would have done better than the lamentable Berg. And some folk say it's all about players and and it doesn't matter who we have in charge because the players are all dross - which is equally stupid because any decent manager can improve any bunch of no-hopers no matter how poor they appear to be. The fact is six points out of 24 tells its own story - Rovers have appointed another lemon as manager and we are stuck with him until he resigns because on past form we all know the owners will not sack him.

True, can't agree with Den that there's little a good manager could do with these players. Black focused on shutting up shop and he managed it until Berg came. Berg doesn't seem to know what he wants to focus on. The squad is unbalanced but there's enough to get respectable results until the window opens and Berg is failing miserably at the moment.

The clean sheets we were getting under Black would have seen us still well in the top 6, ready to make a push in January...

[Mercer]

So Burnley have been stuffed at Forest, couldn't beat the worst Rovers side in years and they're sending your missus a claret and blue bouquet because they're looking forward to coming round???

You're a strange one mercer and your dingle mates equally so....

Gav - it's simple, a mark of appreciation for the missus doing dinner, she loves any flowers, even the claret and blue which did bring a smile to my face ! When the flowers arrived, Burnley hadn't even played at Forest !

Seriously, we had a cracking night, including several bottles of 'claret' that they brought round, and it's all part of the 'craic' and how football should be. Really, for the first time in years, they actually believe that they are in the ascendancy whilst we are on the slippery slope. There were a couple of good articles in LT this week which probably summed-up how the Burnley lot are generally thinking:-

http://www.lancashir...from_derby_day/

http://www.lancashir...fore_Blackburn/

Local rivalry is good and healthy but the 'hatred' of some is feckin nonsense and they should get a life.

[martonrover]

It's odd that according to some people Berg is underperforming because he has not been able to bring his own staff in, or because he is lumbered with the useless hangers-on from the Kean era. But how do they know that ? For all they know Berg is perfectly happy with his backroom team and has no desire to make any changes. Some people also say there's no guarantee other managers would have done any better but that's pretty dumb because as things stand even Steve Kean based on his average points per game would have done better than the lamentable Berg. And some folk say it's all about players and and it doesn't matter who we have in charge because the players are all dross - which is equally stupid because any decent manager can improve any bunch of no-hopers no matter how poor they appear to be. The fact is six points out of 24 tells its own story - Rovers have appointed another lemon as manager and we are stuck with him until he resigns because on past form we all know the owners will not sack him.

Perhaps Berg is backroom staff to Shebby? If Berg had his own senior figure supporting him ( eg asst manager ) it would've helped hugely IMO.

[John]

Wonder who Berg would even appoint as his back room staff considering he has never managed in England before. Most managers would bring in people they trust and have worked with before.

Very strange that he just came in and kept on the existing failing back room staff team - do we even have a head of fitness these days.

[chaddyrovers]

think Craig Short will be coming in shortly

[tomphil]

Short is another one like Berg who's a good bloke and popular ex player who served us well but i can't see what he would bring to the setup. Would he be Bergs right hand man and the coaching staff still stay ? Would he replace Black, if so what more can he offer than Black. Would he just replace CH or someone ? It's all right bringing in coaches but you will not stop the present 2 two centre halves from switching off, both have major flaws at their game and it won't change over night if ever. We need to defend as a team and if the present staff can't coach that they all need to do one ! I think there is too much pressure from somewhere above to try and play open football with a young team and all the basics go out the window on the training pitch

[Rover_Shaun]

Let's get an entire backroom team of ex-players then they will never ever be open to criticism because they "all love the club and have it's best interests at heart"

[Tom]

Last I heard Craig short was a sailing instructor

At least he should know a thing or two about a sinking ship

[ada2020]

Craig Short, it gets keaning worse!!!

What does he bring to the table, oh I know, he failed at management to!!!!!!!!

[martonrover]

Craig Short, it gets keaning worse!!!

What does he bring to the table, oh I know, he failed at management to!!!!!!!!

Yes, but he's blue & white & one of us :-(. Seems we're preparing for life in League One.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

think Craig Short will be coming in shortly

What ever for ? Is he likely to be an improvement on Black ?

[Amo]

Chaddy's pulling names out of a hat.

He said Ricky Sbragia the other day.

[chaddyrovers]

Criag Short is currently the head of youth recruitment at Derby County.

I have heard that both Short and Sbragia are both coming in. this was back up by a member on here who back up what I heard.

Chaddy's pulling names out of a hat.

He said Ricky Sbragia the other day.

that why I block your posts from my seeing them.

You talk totally crap

[Amo]

that why I block your posts from my seeing them.

You talk totally crap