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Martin Samuel is a pompous tw@t but he's correct with this one.

Scroll down to Blackburn fans should be careful what they wish for

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2245620/Shane-Warne-time-forget-Australia-comeback--Martin-Samuel.html

That perfectly sums up the folly of appointing a former player lacking suitable managerial experience.

Most of us didn't wish for it though.

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“Yes we are disappointed with the result, yes we are disappointed with some of the performances, but we are not a million miles away in that we played the league leaders in a tight and even game, football wise that ended not an even game in terms of the result.

“There are not that many things we need to do to make sure we win football matches."

“We are disappointed to lose another game at home but Cardiff were the better team all over even if not quite as much as the scoreline suggests”, said Berg. “You can't have any complaints."

It's not my intention to attack Berg but if Kean had made these comments most of us would be rolling our eyes and laughing. It baffles me that Berg can come out and say the game was 'even' then switch to saying "Cardiff were the better team all over". It's either one or the other, surely?

And I don't even know what he means by "There are not that many things we need to do to make sure we win football matches." but he's wrong regardless. Disappointed in these comments as they remind me too much of Keano's BS. I expect better from Berg.

“I know Gael is a good option and I know he has played really well earlier.

“He was injured when I came and to be fair to Scott and Grant, they have played well together. In the last game against Burnley I thought they were magnificent.

“But on Friday's showing, I know both of them can do better. If Givet is a better option, we will see, because I know he is a good option, there is no doubt about that.

“I know Scott and Grant usually play well as well.”

This is also a massive lie - is he watching matches with his eyes closed? Dann and Hanley have been been awful this season bar one or two performances. If he thinks either is a better option than Givet he needs his head testing.

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well you cant really critize your own players openly in the local newspaper can you? To be fair cardiff were not perticulary good, but they were playing better than us. We could easily have snatched a win friday, cardiff did not create much even though they dominated our midfield. Dann and hanley are not awful players, but they do make alot of personal mistakes that has cost us many points. We need to get someone more stable in, because we cant afford all those mistakes.

neither dann or hanley has that natural central defender aura that nelsen and samba had, hanley maybe will get it in a couple of years, dann doesnt look like a defender imo. and i dont think givet is the answer either. We need to get someone in with experience and leadership qualities. givet is not a leader type who can inspire other. he is only so popular because he is a cult hero because he looks like a caveman.

and same goes with central midfield. need a leader there aswell, murphy and etuhu have disappointed so far.

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Dann and hanley are not awful players, but they do make alot of personal mistakes that has cost us many points

Sorry,. this doesn't make any sense at all.

They're awful because they do cost us many points. That's not because they're playing below their ability. It's because they're crap.

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Alarm bells ringing after those comments.

They could've come straight from the mouth of Kean.

Tight and even game? We were hammered in every department.

The difference between Kean and Berg is that Kean actually believed the lies he was spouting. Berg is being diplomatic but he knows we have been woeful.

I can kind of understand where Berg is coming from with those comments as well. At 2-1 down, we were battering Cardiff and should have equalised through Formica. 1st half awful; once we went 3-1 down then we just caved in.

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The difference between Kean and Berg is that Kean actually believed the lies he was spouting. Berg is being diplomatic but he knows we have been woeful.

I can kind of understand where Berg is coming from with those comments as well. At 2-1 down, we were battering Cardiff and should have equalised through Formica. 1st half awful; once we went 3-1 down then we just caved in.

I think as well - he does go on to say that we were a little behind Cardiff in every department - so I think he realises that there are problems. Berg has played at the top of European football - he will know that the past few performances aren't good enough. IMO one thing is evident - the general lack of confidence - so I don't think Berg will come out and ruin whatever fragile confidence there is by slating the players in the press.

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Martin Samuel is a pompous tw@t but he's correct with this one.

Scroll down to Blackburn fans should be careful what they wish for

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2245620/Shane-Warne-time-forget-Australia-comeback--Martin-Samuel.html

"Ditch the Global advisor, he's plainly an idiot."

I think that's spot on. I just hope the journo's keep looking our way. They have the voice we seem to have lost. Keep exposing Venkys & Shebby for the absolute sham they are.

The appointment of Berg does not look like its going to work out. I've nothing against him and will never hate him like I did Kean. Trying to do a job with the joker Shebby on your shoulder, would be hard for anyone to pull off.

He stated the club means everything when he joined. I hope he has the self respect to stand up against any interference. If all team decisions are his - it's plainly not going to plan. Time for a major shake up of back room staff and non performing players. Henning has to state - all team decisions are his.

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actually samuel isn't correct at all. I don't remember one voice calling for berg. that's not to say that when he was appointed we didn't try to make the best of it and give him the support we could never give kean. We almost all wanted an experienced manager, someone with a proven track record of getting teams promoted, but we'd have settled for a less experienced guy with a decent record elsewhere. and we'd gladly ditch not only the global advisor but the defensive coach, the owners and most of the other sorry crew who currently run our club. we didn't ask for any of them.

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The answer to the conundrum and evident from the last 4 results, the defence has not been playing too bad as a unit. The central midfield, where 3 of the last 4games, Etuhu has played, has notmarked men, not competed and as such has been responsible for the defence getting over run. Etuhu has played in 3 games and we lost them all. When he didnt play,the midfield seemed stronger and more as a unit.

Defence had no available passes so had to hoof it in the first halfbut when we went to King on the left,there was a pass available. Same thing when at Burnley.

We are crying out for a strong midfield general, aspeedy right winger andto replace Hanley with Givet.

We have no central spine to the team. No enforcers and Robbo is no leader at the back. We need some steel.

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In re: to Berg's comments in the LT: Nobody is asking Berg to slate the players/team in the press. I don't object to him refusing to outright condemn the players, but I do take offence to Berg spouting the type of casual BS that we had to endure under Kean. I'm talking about stuff like the contradiction of "it was an even game" vs "they were better than us in every department". Berg is better than that. Also, saying Hanley and Dann "usually play well" is completely wrong. I appreciate he doesn't want to criticize them in public and that's fine, but at the same time he doesn't have to lie. All it does it get the fans backs up - and reading the comments below the article it appears that is exactly what he has done. People aren't stupid - it's obvious Dann and Hanley are not playing well and to attempt to claim the opposite is insulting the fans intelligence. Sometimes it is best to not say anything (or very little). He can praise the CB duo in private if he genuinely thinks they've been good (and I pray he doesn't actually think that).

Berg needs to be very careful with what he says in the press. Rovers fans have had to endure two years of non-stop bullshit from Kean and if Berg starts doing the same it won't be long before people lose patience with him, local hero or not. He needs the fans on his side as much as the players, one without the other is pointless. I'm not expecting brutal verbal destruction of the team and the players, all I want is honesty and I don't feel Berg is being particularly honest with those comments. Particularly regarding Hanley and Dann. His comments regarding the match read as contradictory nonsense in parts.

What I don't want to see is hypocrisy and double-standards towards Berg. Giving him a chance is well and good, but personally I'm judging him by the exact same standards I judged Kean on. To do otherwise would make me a hypocrite. If Berg speaks BS, I'll call him on it the same way I would Kean. If Kean had made these comments about Dann and Hanley I very much doubt people would be calling it "diplomacy" or talking about the players' confidence. It would be called what it rightly is - nonsense.

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The difference between Kean and Berg is that Kean actually believed the lies he was spouting. Berg is being diplomatic but he knows we have been woeful.

I can kind of understand where Berg is coming from with those comments as well. At 2-1 down, we were battering Cardiff and should have equalised through Formica. 1st half awful; once we went 3-1 down then we just caved in.

Berg is getting undeserved grace simply because he played for Rovers. His comments were Keanesque but sadly his record makes Kean look like the scottish Guardiola

That LET article is absolutely shocking.

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Berg has to be diplomatic as he can't be seen to bite the hand that feeds. He has had a very poor start, and he knows it. He got the job by default, and in my opinion is lucky to be in such a good job ( or would be if your bosses weren't the nightmare from hell). I still suspect he's being told what to do to an extent, otherwise why can't he make wholesale changes and give others a chance - they couldn't do any worse surely?

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Personally couldn't really care less what he says in interviews. It pales into insignificance compared to what happens on the pitch. Allardyce's interviews were often routed through with a fine tooth comb by many fans, leaping on any little criticism possible and often concluding he was arrogant, resembled a walrus, or some other ridiculous remark.

The point being its easy to obsess over managers' interviews and pick fault with almost anyone who does the job. These things aren't carefully scripted, checked over by numerous assistants and delivered by a trained actor. They're given by someone who's usually very stressed, very tired, and has been forced through numerous interviews about the same topic already.

As far as I'm concerned if Berg is getting the results then he can sing the La Marseillaise throughout every interview and I'll be happy, equally if he's not getting results he can sound like a Paisley/Clough/Mourinho/Ferguson hybrid and I won't be impressed. His job is winning football matches.

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actually samuel isn't correct at all. I don't remember one voice calling for berg. that's not to say that when he was appointed we didn't try to make the best of it and give him the support we could never give kean. We almost all wanted an experienced manager, someone with a proven track record of getting teams promoted, but we'd have settled for a less experienced guy with a decent record elsewhere. and we'd gladly ditch not only the global advisor but the defensive coach, the owners and most of the other sorry crew who currently run our club. we didn't ask for any of them.

He's wrong about fans reaction to Berg's appointment but absolutely spot on about the futility of appointing a former player lacking serious managerial credentials.

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