[Archived] Henning Berg - Rovers Manager

[Mercer]

Henning Berg has never needed alot of money to bring good players into his teams, however he is in a different situation now because we are not necessary looking for young talent but looking for players with more experience.

We have them siyying on the bench invluding international players, . Champion Leagure finalists !!!

[dr_awol]

I've seen this rhetoric spouted multiple times and it clearly misses the point.

What people want is not "more communication" from Venky's and I don't think that has ever been the primary concern, what people desire is simply intelligent and thought-out comments rather than constant BS. Shebby is the king of bull and his comments in that article are ridiculous. All he needed to say was that there has been a meeting and things are being dealt with. Absolutely no need to go into any further detail.

Rather than 'more communication' people largely wanted professionalism which is completely different and something Venky's have still, after 2 years, completely failed to master. A bumbling motor-mouth like Singh is proof of that.

Not Really sure hes the king of bull...most things hes said hes gone on and done. you might not agree with them but at least he trying to do something.. in the current situation rovers are better withhim than without.

If some people on this MB got there way we would be sacking our managers faster than Chelsea.

[martonrover]

I think Venky's have a production line of bald automatons ready to say yes to anything.

[den]

Not Really sure hes the king of bull...most things hes said hes gone on and done.

Not sure about that. What has he done? He said he would sack Kean - which he then admitted he couldn't do - apart from that I can't think of anything.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

I do think its a slight improvement that Shebby is transparent with fans. However all its done is illuminate what we all suspected was gross incompetence and confirmed that yes, it is in fact gross incompetence.

How every other club does it is they hire a manager who was a success in his last job and then he can bring the coaching staff from that job with him. How we've done it is hire a manager who was a failure in his last job, then either refused to allow him or he didn't want to bring his failed coaches with him, so he's been lumped with the band of muppets Steve Kean assembled. Then its a case of wait until we drop about 20 points, then start blaming everyone except the manager because Singh hired him.

I'd have loved to have been a fly on the wall in that meeting. Listening to Singh, Shaw, Agnew and Berg masterminding a plan for shooting us up the league would have been funnier than listening to Tom Cruise and George Bush masterminding a presedential comeback.

Singh has arrived and the club has gone from secretive insanity to very obvious buffoonery.

[broadsword]

So Venky's get hammered when they don't talk to the fans. They hire someone who communicates and then everything he says gets slated.

I dislike them as much as the next person but that mentality is a bit tiresome. Can't have it both ways. If no action is taken by the end of the transfer window then jump all over it by all means.

You've got to be taking the kean? Surely?

Venky's get hammered because they are slowly wrecking this club ... when the sit on their hands they do it. When they take action, they do it, because inevitably any action they take is fumbling, clumsy and counter-productive.

Perhaps if their appointed representative at Ewood actually said something that showed he was putting the health of the club first, and wasn't show-boating, playing to the galleries or just generally talking out of his hat, then he may just receive a positive reaction, if people judge him to be genuine.

But no, there's rumours that the coaching staff have to pay the price of failure now. This is just like under Kean, avoiding blame and pinning it on someone else so you can carry on sticking your snout in the trough. Well I'm sick of it. And I'm sick of soundbites like this:

"Decisive decisions and actions were needed and they will be taken, I just ask fans to respect our wishes for a bit of time to bring them into fruition."

This reminds me of Wankytash's comments last summer, nothing specific just "bear with us", well I'm not going to bear with them, I won't be fobbed off by their crap, and shame on anyone who's willing to give them time just because they have deigned to speak to the fans through some jumped-up showboating arse who looks like a cross between Ravi Shankar and Groucho Marx.

They are ruining this club, and the longer they stay the worse it will get. I won't give them any more chances, the situation is intolerable.

[Majiball]

Not sure about that. What has he done? He said he would sack Kean - which he then admitted he couldn't do - apart from that I can't think of anything.

He's done nothing but make things worse. He talks tosh, cannot say no and passes the buck like no bodies business. Even the press are cottoning on and fewer and fewer shebby interviews are occuring most think he's full of it. Look at how he went about hiring a performance man to replace Howard and the aftermath. That's before I tell you that I've enquired quite a lot and I cannot find out if the new man (due to arrive when croatia enter the EU) even has a degree in sports science or some such. It's a fiasco of stupid proportions and that's before you start on everything else he's been at the centre of IE recruiting a new manager.

He's a flagrent waste of O2 and isn't needed at the club.

[den]

You've got to be taking the kean? Surely?

Venky's get hammered because they are slowly wrecking this club ... when the sit on their hands they do it. When they take action, they do it, because inevitably any action they take is fumbling, clumsy and counter-productive.

Perhaps if their appointed representative at Ewood actually said something that showed he was putting the health of the club first, and wasn't show-boating, playing to the galleries or just generally talking out of his hat, then he may just receive a positive reaction, if people judge him to be genuine.

But no, there's rumours that the coaching staff have to pay the price of failure now. This is just like under Kean, avoiding blame and pinning it on someone else so you can carry on sticking your snout in the trough. Well I'm sick of it. And I'm sick of soundbites like this:

"Decisive decisions and actions were needed and they will be taken, I just ask fans to respect our wishes for a bit of time to bring them into fruition."

This reminds me of Wankytash's comments last summer, nothing specific just "bear with us", well I'm not going to bear with them, I won't be fobbed off by their crap, and shame on anyone who's willing to give them time just because they have deigned to speak to the fans through some jumped-up showboating arse who looks like a cross between Ravi Shankar and Groucho Marx.

They are ruining this club, and the longer they stay the worse it will get. I won't give them any more chances, the situation is intolerable.

Very well put Bryan.

[dr_awol]

Not sure about that. What has he done? He said he would sack Kean - which he then admitted he couldn't do - apart from that I can't think of anything.

Kean's Gone- granted he never had the overall power to sack him, but he loaded the gun, Kean saw this and ran out of town.

we have started to sign better players, Best is a shame, I expected Murphy and Etuhu to dominate this league , Rhodes, King. You cant put theses signing directly on Singh but its a notable change in strategy .

Berg and Singh is much better than Kean and Anderson in my book and im prepared to give it time.

people also need to realize than we dident just get relegated because Kean was a crap manager but because we had a crap squad(which Kean created over time ) that squad needs rebuilding over time.

[Majiball]

Kean's Gone- granted he never had the overall power to sack him, but he loaded the gun, Kean saw this and ran out of town.

we have started to sign better players, Best is a shame, I expected Murphy and Etuhu to dominate this league , Rhodes, King. You cant put theses signing directly on Singh but its a notable change in strategy .

Berg and Singh is much better than Kean and Anderson in my book and im prepared to give it time.

people also need to realize than we dident just get relegated because Kean was a crap manager but because we had a crap squad(which Kean created over time ) that squad needs rebuilding over time.

That's Berg, Singh and Armstrong by the way, even the global advisor needs an intergalactic one in Gerry.

[OJRovers]

I do think its a slight improvement that Shebby is transparent with fans. However all its done is illuminate what we all suspected was gross incompetence and confirmed that yes, it is in fact gross incompetence.

How every other club does it is they hire a manager who was a success in his last job and then he can bring the coaching staff from that job with him. How we've done it is hire a manager who was a failure in his last job, then either refused to allow him or he didn't want to bring his failed coaches with him, so he's been lumped with the band of muppets Steve Kean assembled. Then its a case of wait until we drop about 20 points, then start blaming everyone except the manager because Singh hired him.

I'd have loved to have been a fly on the wall in that meeting. Listening to Singh, Shaw, Agnew and Berg masterminding a plan for shooting us up the league would have been funnier than listening to Tom Cruise and George Bush masterminding a presedential comeback.

Singh has arrived and the club has gone from secretive insanity to very obvious buffoonery.

Spot on

[martonrover]

Singh promises 'decisive action'

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/blackburn_rovers/news/10102813.Singh_promises__decisive_action_/

" Berg has been told to search for new coaching staff".

Says it all.

Whether it's his fault or not he's a puppet.

[ABBEY]

Kean's Gone- granted he never had the overall power to sack him, but he loaded the gun, Kean saw this and ran out of town.

we have started to sign better players, Best is a shame, I expected Murphy and Etuhu to dominate this league , Rhodes, King. You cant put theses signing directly on Singh but its a notable change in strategy .

Berg and Singh is much better than Kean and Anderson in my book and im prepared to give it time.

people also need to realize than we dident just get relegated because Kean was a crap manager but because we had a crap squad(which Kean created over time ) that squad needs rebuilding over time.

Why did you expect murphy and etuhu to dominate this league ? Murphy was reportedly passed it if reports were to be believed and etuhu my nobber mate used to go off about him and how crap he was.

Singh is a self centred venky puppet.

[dr_awol]

Why did you expect murphy and etuhu to dominate this league ? Murphy was reportedly passed it if reports were to be believed and etuhu my nobber mate used to go off about him and how crap he was.

Singh is a self centred venky puppet.

Because both have been solid premier league midfielders for some time, and i assumed they both understanding of each other play, could just slot into midfield.. I never heard these "reports" and i don't know your mate :-)

Must admit i did underestimate the championship.

90% of the people employed in the football industry are self centered.

[ABBEY]

Etuhu solid ? I always thought murphy overated too.

[roversfan99]

Murphy was excellent at Fulham, and was at the core of their rise from relegation bound to Europa finalists.

He seems to be one of our more vocal players but him and Etuhu don't work, basically no one works with Etuhu as he isn't good enough.

Berg needs to play Murphy besides a more athletic, combative player. Murphy and Lowe has looked much better than Murphy and Etuhu, as despite the fact that Lowe is not good enough IMO, he at least has the legs and the mobility to allow Murphy to concentrate on picking a pass.

I do think Murphy can be crucial but I think Etuhu is a lost cause.

[Salgado Is A Hero]

To be fair, neither Lowe or Murphy have the benefit of decent wide players who constantly provide an out-ball on the wing......we have them in our squad, they're just usually on the bench.

I think the team that Berg will play on Saturday will be Robinson...Henley, Dann, Hanley, Martin O...Formica, Murphy, Lowe, King...Kazim, Rhodes.

[tomphil]

On the subject of Etuhu and Murphy being a former Prem pair who would dictate our team and dominate this leage, AGAIN Venkys listened to Coco and his cronies telling them that getting rid of Nzonzi and using the money to get these to would enable us to outplay most teams in this division under his style of play. Have to say a few of us thought fair enough but we were all badly wrong. Berg has found out to his cost and is now trying the one or the other approach but that won't work either.

[Kelbo]

To be fair, neither Lowe or Murphy have the benefit of decent wide players who constantly provide an out-ball on the wing......we have them in our squad, they're just usually on the bench.

I think the team that Berg will play on Saturday will be Robinson...Henley, Dann, Hanley, Martin O...Formica, Murphy, Lowe, King...Kazim, Rhodes.

Unless there are personality problems, I think he will play Simon, he certainly should do!!

[USABlue]

Singh promises 'decisive action'

http://www.lancashir...cisive_action_/

You don't talk about taking decisive action, you take it then talk about it. Or is he hinting at the Ali fella coming in.

[USABlue]

" Berg has been told to search for new coaching staff".

Says it all.

Whether it's his fault or not he's a puppet.

Sooo one minute you can't believe a word then next what he says is gospel. Simply conjecture but could it not be Berg has said so and Sheeby is trying to look in charge. After all 10 minutes ago we'd have everyone believe Berg was FORCED to keep these people on now all of a sudden he's told to get rid. I doubt it.

[T.J.Newton]

Not sure about that. I think especially with younger players managers like Souness can be a treat. Souness' downfall came when he started signing big name players who expected more respect than they were due at a club like ours, and egos started to clash. We're hardly talking a million years ago are we?

really not far of In English football terms, in the early/mid 90s Black players where still are rarity outside of the london clubs, foreign players even more so, teams could only have 3 subs(and 1 of those was the backup keeper), these points are irrelevant to the thread im just pointing out that pretty much everything other than the basic rules of the game have completely changed(and even the some of the rules have changed, remember when you could actually tackle a player,that was good wasn't it).

[thenodrog]

John Williams would have taken the decisive action months or even years ago.

What does Paul Agnew contribute in these decisive action meetings?

John was OK alright but rem he did hire Paul 'numpty' Ince! I still cannot get my head around that one.

So Venky's get hammered when they don't talk to the fans. They hire someone who communicates and then everything he says gets slated.

I dislike them as much as the next person but that mentality is a bit tiresome. Can't have it both ways. If no action is taken by the end of the transfer window then jump all over it by all means.

The still small voice of calm. Well done LeChuck

[Amo]

lol. Drog & Shebby are BFFs.

[thenodrog]

On the subject of Etuhu and Murphy being a former Prem pair who would dictate our team and dominate this leage, AGAIN Venkys listened to Coco and his cronies telling them that getting rid of Nzonzi and using the money to get these to would enable us to outplay most teams in this division under his style of play. Have to say a few of us thought fair enough but we were all badly wrong.

Nice of you to own up to that. I've said all along that N'Zonzi is a country mile better than the pair of them put together. Etohu appears to have the mentality attributed most famously with Didier Deschamps (and now Balotelli) whilst Murphy is not so much a 'has been' as a 'never has been'. Makes me weep to see what Kean and his evil chum did to our club simply to further their own self interest and line their own pockets. I hope I live long enough to spit on their graves.

Unless there are personality problems, I think he will play Simon, he certainly should do!!

Am I the only one to rem that a late appearence by that particular gentleman cost us two points against the dingles?