[Archived] Henning Berg - Rovers Manager

[PAFELL]

What possible reason could Shebby have for wearing a tracksuit top? Is he doing some work on the training ground? He is an ex-professional footballer after all.

He did say he talks tactics with berg.

Berg should be allowed to get on with managing the team without any interferance from either shebby singh or those in Pune.

[tomphil]

What possible reason could Shebby have for wearing a tracksuit top? Is he doing some work on the training ground? He is an ex-professional footballer after all.

If we start seeing the 'near post corner' being attempted anytime soon chances are he has a big input

[thenodrog]

Not really defending Shebby Singh one way or the other. He may be misguided and inexperienced in the job but imo he is at least trying to put the club's interests first and foremost unlike the last regime. However I have to say that the flak he is getting on here is just stupid and childish. Whats wrong with wearing a BRFC tracksuit top ffs? If I were him over here and away from his social circle and family I'd prob gravitate to the training ground too. Every doctor on the planet advises more exercise don't they? I'd be willing to bet that more than a few of Shebby's sterner critics for interfering on here have also criticised the Venkymob for staying away and not attending too. Anybody want to put their hands up to that?

I believe Jack Walker frequently talked footy stuff with KMD etc and visited the dressing rooms frequently before and after matches too. Was he wrong to do so?

Grow up children.

[otto man]

Not really defending Shebby Singh one way or the other. He may be misguided and inexperienced in the job but imo he is at least trying to put the club's interests first and foremost unlike the last regime. However I have to say that the flak he is getting on here is just stupid and childish. Whats wrong with wearing a BRFC tracksuit top ffs? If I were him over here and away from his social circle and family I'd prob gravitate to the training ground too. Every doctor on the planet advises more exercise don't they? I'd be willing to bet that more than a few of Shebby's sterner critics on here have also criticised the Venkymob for staying away attending too. Anybody want to put their hands up to that?

I believe Jack Walker frequently talked footy stuff with KMD etc and visited the dressing rooms frequently before and after matches too. Was he wrong to do so?

Grow up children.

Well said Theno!

[arbitro]

If we start seeing the 'near post corner' being attempted anytime soon chances are he has a big input

Remember Fazackerley and Garner? One of our weakest areas is the lack of variation at set pieces.

[Stuart]

Remember Fazackerley and Garner? One of our weakest areas is the lack of variation at set pieces.

I'd suggest a lack of ability to execute set pieces correctly is just a much a problem. How many corners don't reach the target? How many free kicks hit the wall? It all just seems very sloppy.

[Ewoodbhappy]

Not really defending Shebby Singh one way or the other. He may be misguided and inexperienced in the job but imo he is at least trying to put the club's interests first and foremost unlike the last regime. However I have to say that the flak he is getting on here is just stupid and childish. Whats wrong with wearing a BRFC tracksuit top ffs? If I were him over here and away from his social circle and family I'd prob gravitate to the training ground too. Every doctor on the planet advises more exercise don't they? I'd be willing to bet that more than a few of Shebby's sterner critics on here have also criticised the Venkymob for staying away attending too. Anybody want to put their hands up to that?

I believe Jack Walker frequently talked footy stuff with KMD etc and visited the dressing rooms frequently before and after matches too. Was he wrong to do so?

Grow up children.

Disagree 100%. The man is a prize prat.

Unfortunate some will swallow his rubbish.

I predict somewhere down the line, you may start to feel the same.

[patrickvalery]

Disagree 100%. The man is a prize prat.

Unfortunate some will swallow his rubbish.

I predict somewhere down the line, you may start to feel the same.

He does come across as being a prize winning prat. I don't think many people would dispute that. It is far from ideal. But would people rather have Shebby with limited football experience and a degree of contacts in the game at the helm or Vinny Rao? Both are the most recent incumbents of the post, albeit under different titles. One managed to strongly influence the departrure of the worst manager we have ever had and also proved instrumental in signing Rhodes, one of the best prospects we've seen since Jansen. The other asked fans who we should sign in the summer transfer window via facebook.

To a man, everyone would love John Williams as the main man at Rovers. I think that is a point we can all agree on. But that's not happening any time soon. Certainly Venky's don't see the benefit of such an appointment. So, thus far i would say Singh is as good as it's likely to get. I only wish that he would take a back seat. He gives an already restless fan base far too much ammunition.

[USABlue]

Not really defending Shebby Singh one way or the other. He may be misguided and inexperienced in the job but imo he is at least trying to put the club's interests first and foremost unlike the last regime. However I have to say that the flak he is getting on here is just stupid and childish. Whats wrong with wearing a BRFC tracksuit top ffs? If I were him over here and away from his social circle and family I'd prob gravitate to the training ground too. Every doctor on the planet advises more exercise don't they? I'd be willing to bet that more than a few of Shebby's sterner critics on here have also criticised the Venkymob for staying away attending too. Anybody want to put their hands up to that?

I believe Jack Walker frequently talked footy stuff with KMD etc and visited the dressing rooms frequently before and after matches too. Was he wrong to do so?

Grow up children.

I have to believe you knew exactly what you were writing Gordon and I have to believe you don't truly believe that and it is just a post to provoke a response. Perhaps a Shebbyesque cry for attention.

[Athlete]

Disagree 100%. The man is a prize prat.

Unfortunate some will swallow his rubbish.

I predict somewhere down the line, you may start to feel the same.

+10000000000

[AndyC]

I have to believe you knew exactly what you were writing Gordon and I have to believe you don't truly believe that and it is just a post to provoke a response. Perhaps a Shebbyesque cry for attention.

Well I agree with gordon about the track suit top. It makes no difference whatsoever what he wears.

But then I'm n a minority of people who think that henning isn't being told who he can and can't pick.

[JAL]

But then I'm n a minority of people who think that henning isn't being told who he can and can't pick.

After this weeks events its certainly forces the question into the open, is Berg a a yes man. Dont think anyone would be wrong to think so after what been said and how its been said.

[thenodrog]

Better not to get in the way of the board posse when there's a hangin in the offing Andy.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

I don't think its a case of Shebby is wearing a footy tracksuit so he must be having a day to day input on the training ground/team selections etc. He probably buzzes around like a sad hanger-on dispensing moronic advice and generally getting ignored. But what it represents to me is that he

wants

to be involved in the football side of things, and when push comes to shove, he pulled Berg off the scrapheap and so will have leverage with him. If he jumps around and stamps his feet enough, he will be able to get a say on certain things. An experienced, proven manager with the ability to walk away at any point and get another job simply wouldn't stand for it in the same way I'd expect Berg to, a guy with no safety net who will be back on the Norwegian league dole queue if Rovers get shut of him.

[thenodrog]

Disagree 100%. The man is a prize prat.

Unfortunate some will swallow his rubbish.

I predict somewhere down the line, you may start to feel the same.

+10000000000

On what basis do you two say that? Have you met him or is it just word of mouth? I suggest it can only be personal dislike cos everything reported on here is just heresay as far as I am concerned.

Personally I see a bloke charged with a big job who to date appears well intentioned if a little out of his depth, however only time will tell and the application of sheep mentallity will yield nothing positive. As I say he's got the job with little experience of that position or English Championship football so it can't be easy. Where does he go for help? Who can he trust? I see him as enthusiastic and a tryer (and God loves those) who is flying the club on the seat of his pants but with good intentions. If he appears a little too involved then that is only natural. I may be wrong but as I say I don't get the stench of corruption with these two as I did with the previous 'mob'.

Anyway you two.... just like I asked (without success) the 'Allardyce Out Brigade' time and again a couple of years back for any better options for the club that were in any way sensible or workable... please would you give us what you see as the next move by the owners should you succeed in lynching this months scapegoat? Personally I feel that we could well be drinking in the Last Chance salloon cos I'vbe a feeling that the Venkymob would stop flogging a very costly dead horse, realise that they have bought a pup and that BRFC can never ever turn a profit and could easily pull up the drawbridge!

So what then guys? Lets have less automatic criticism and some serious and workable proposals. Now I'm not holding my breath so could you give us all the benefit of your enlightened blue sky thinking? Oh and ffs don't mention Wayne Wild / Brag / Brisa or whatever..... they are for the day which may not be too far off when we wake up and find ourselves in the Blue Square North! Off you go.

btw athlete sorry I'm not clever enough to do the math.....100% +10000000000 is what exactly?

[jim mk2]

Not really defending Shebby Singh one way or the other. He may be misguided and inexperienced in the job but imo he is at least trying to put the club's interests first and foremost unlike the last regime. However I have to say that the flak he is getting on here is just stupid and childish. Whats wrong with wearing a BRFC tracksuit top ffs? If I were him over here and away from his social circle and family I'd prob gravitate to the training ground too. Every doctor on the planet advises more exercise don't they? I'd be willing to bet that more than a few of Shebby's sterner critics for interfering on here have also criticised the Venkymob for staying away and not attending too. Anybody want to put their hands up to that?

I believe Jack Walker frequently talked footy stuff with KMD etc and visited the dressing rooms frequently before and after matches too. Was he wrong to do so?

Grow up children.

There speaks a man who wasn't at the meeting, has largely forsaken Rovers for the golf course yet still has an opinion on everything.

Worthless and irrelevant.

[BuckyRover]

Completely agree with Theno. Things are tough at the moment but this is a time for cool heads. Lets stop looking for the next bad guy and just try and support the guys on the pitch.

The comparison that has been made to Hughes is quite valid, it takes time to get things going in the right direction especially after two years of Kean influence. It's difficult to support after two years of being shafted but its what Berg and the team needs to get out of this division.

It took us two years last time and that was with professional people at the helm. It's easy to be worried and say we NEED to get out of this division this season but we can't change that (if that is the case, not sure it is at the moment) but the notion that complaining will mean they sack a manager AND appoint somebody experienced seems complete fantasy based on the last two years.

In the words of the last man who dragged us from this division "we need to wee with the willy we've got".

[Majiball]

Completely agree with Theno. Things are tough at the moment but this is a time for cool heads. Lets stop looking for the next bad guy and just try and support the guys on the pitch.

The comparison that has been made to Hughes is quite valid, it takes time to get things going in the right direction especially after two years of Kean influence. It's difficult to support after two years of being shafted but its what Berg and the team needs to get out of this division.

It took us two years last time and that was with professional people at the helm. It's easy to be worried and say we NEED to get out of this division this season but we can't change that (if that is the case, not sure it is at the moment) but the notion that complaining will mean they sack a manager AND appoint somebody experienced seems complete fantasy based on the last two years.

In the words of the last man who dragged us from this division "we need to wee with the willy we've got".

How does one wee with a willy with a kidney stone blocking the urethra???

Hughes reign is not the same as Berg's he came in and made the right moves quickly IE new team new ethos. Berg hasn't done this as it stands he's taken 8 matches to do the same thing Hughes will have insisted upon before arrival. So weeks to do the same as Hughes did in his interview, it's not a good start. Hennings been in and around football his whole life he knows the crack within the game and yet???

It's not a good start, I hope he can turn it around but I am far from convinced on what I have seen and heard so far.

For me rovers at present are like a toddler trying to walk entering a marathon, I admire the enthusiasm but they don't have the ability to do what they claim.

[chris_h]

This board often does a favourable impression of a mob of torch baring peasants. Shebby Singh seems to be the latest Dr Frankenstein.

Best not to get in the way.

[BuckyRover]

Berg hasn't done that as of yet but Hughes team hadn't been conditioned in failure and unprofessionalism for two years. There aren't many managers who can come in and flick a switch and that happen. A lot will depend on whether we can sign some players in January and get some new coaches in. The players don't need to be world beaters, just need to be Bergs players and have influence. I think Friedel would be a fantastic signing for this reason.

[booth]

Shebby gave us the cock we've got mate, and it's got a terrible aim.

Let's just hope someone somewhere can clean up the pissy mess at the end of it all.

[broadsword]

It doesn't matter if Singh gets hounded out or not ... he'll just be replaced with some equally hopeless parasite.

He's just another part of the problem. And the root of the problem is Venky's, and we have no realistic way of getting rid of them. The only way they will go is when they realise how horribly out of their depth they are, with the club in administration. Because we all know if they put the club up for sale they'd even make a mess of that.

But to not describe him as he appears, a clumsy publicity-hungry interloper, after some dough and his fifteen minutes of fame is to do an injustice to teh gravity of his situation. Sure, he wears a tracksuit as part of his new fitness regime, I can buy that, he probably saw Grant Hanley and started to feel guilty when lined up against Hanley's adonis-like physique. Just like I can buy Hendry not being a drain on resources, or Singh saying the club is financially stable, or the claim that we will be in the Champions' League in 3 years' time or ...

[Majiball]

Berg hasn't done that as of yet but Hughes team hadn't been conditioned in failure and unprofessionalism for two years. There aren't many managers who can come in and flick a switch and that happen. A lot will depend on whether we can sign some players in January and get some new coaches in. The players don't need to be world beaters, just need to be Bergs players and have influence. I think Friedel would be a fantastic signing for this reason.

But the point is they knew it would be an issue before they even arrived. Sam did the same sacking several of the staff, some were also sacked along with Ince. And there in lies the real issue, yes they may have the right idea's, but they don't have the ability or knowledge to execute them to the standard needed.

Sam came into to a very unhappy squad and turned it around straight away, hughes took sometime but it was his first day to day role and his staff were known to be some of the best out there. Berg's come along and taken a very strange approach for a sport I would describe as ruthless, something we definitely lack these days.

You can flick the switch straight away by changing all the staff as I've eluded previously. There will always be issues if the voices aren't the same as the ego's of football people will get in the way of everything and be put first by the individuals.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

I don't understand the argument that getting behind the club and players will help. How will that help exactly? We're not knocking on the door of the top 2 positions, with just that extra bit of encouragement needed to open it. We're stood about a mile down the road from the house, languishing in 13th in the table and currently 21st in the form table. There are things seriously wrong with the set-up of the club, and closing our eyes and hoping for the best won't do a thing to solve them.

Our results since Berg has took over have been nothing short of diabolical considering we've only just been relegated to this league. Being given time to improve things is one thing, making things significantly worse as soon as you arrive is something else. The best thing that could happen to the club right now is Singh, Berg and our collection of garbage coaches are sent packing, and Shaw is assigned to the task of picking our next manager. Apparently he wasn't happy with Berg, which would indicate at least he has some idea of what we need.

[Andy]

This board often does a favourable impression of a mob of torch baring peasants. Shebby Singh seems to be the latest Dr Frankenstein.

Best not to get in the way.

It does appear as though some will never genuinely be happy.

When we had a fantastic manager in Sam and were a comfortable mid-table Premiership side, some fans complained that the football being played wasn't good enough for them (!!).

Then others decided that they'd boo their own players like Andrews.

Kean was obviously a legitimate complaint, even if it took the majority too long to cotton onto what he was up to.

But then people complained that time was being taken to appoint a new manager (whilst complaining about Black in the meantime)...before complaining that 'only' Berg was appointed.

And now Singh is the new target.

I sometimes think that a lot of Rovers fans are only ever happy when they're unhappy.