thenodrog Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 Saw Berg in Stanley House tonight. He cut a very forlorn figure sat there dining alone. You could almost feel sorry for him - IMO, clearly out of his depth and realising that. Why didn't you invite him to join you?
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Stuart Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 Why didn't you invite him to join you? I'm sure Henning's depressed enough as it is!
RibbleValleyRover Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 If the club wasn't willing to build the team around Rhodes (which looks like the case) then it's a poor fit and signing. The lad has talent and if you put him on many of the top sides in this league he would be banging those goals in. I thought Berg was starting to realise how to get the best out of him but that's clearly not the case.
John Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 Rhodes struggles to hold the ball up so we struggle when he is isolated up top - Eric Black highlighted this when he took over.
Amo Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 Rhodes struggles to hold the ball up so we struggle when he is isolated up top - Erick Black highlighted this when he took over. Aye. With Lowe & Etuhu in midfield and the condition of the pitch, yesterday was calling out for a direct approach, but Rhodes lacks the hold-up play of a Yakubu or Roberts.
RibbleValleyRover Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 Rhodes struggles to hold the ball up so we struggle when he is isolated up top - Erick Black highlighted this when he took over. He's not the sort of player to hoof the ball from back to front to and even when he gets the ball and he manages to hold it up there is nobody within a mile near him. If it's not working then change it, that's what a good manager would do.
thenodrog Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 Aye. With Lowe & Etuhu in midfield and the condition of the pitch, yesterday was calling out for a direct approach, but Rhodes lacks the hold-up play of a Yakubu or Roberts. We aren't allowed to play direct football remember. Too many supporters don't like understand it.
roversfan99 Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 Yeah i said to my friend a couple of times that we looked dangerous mainly in the first half when we went direct. When the ball was played behind their defence, in particular with Kazim running on to it, Cathcart in particular looked panicky. An experienced manager like Allardyce would have picked up on that and tried to exploit it. However we stopped doing it after a while.
roverandout Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 it seems berg has fallen out with two players already, robbo and orr (who is kean anyway) how many more will he fall out with before the end of the season?
Exiled in Toronto Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 it seems berg has fallen out with two players already, robbo and orr (who is kean anyway) how many more will he fall out with before the end of the season? Hopefully a lot more than 2
BRFC1995 Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 Is berg the worst manager yet? He can't be far off! Breaks my heart to think of the team that backstabbing scot inherited, and how he managed to so completely dismantle it. Heart breaking for entirely different reasons the squad Berg has.
Gav Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 Some people need a bit of perspective here, it isn't Bergs fault we're cr@p, the players just aren't good enough. I'm sick of hearing people saying we have a great side on paper, we have a bunch of second rate misfits and far too many similar players that have had all footballing acumen coached out of them by that Scottish rat. Yes the buck stops with Berg, but simply we’re not good enough and thats down to Venkys and the rat, its bleeding criminal what they’ve done to the town and the football club, keaning arseholes.
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted December 16, 2012 Moderation Lead Posted December 16, 2012 Some people need a bit of perspective here, it isn't Bergs fault we're cr@p, the players just aren't good enough. I'm sick of hearing people saying we have a great side on paper, we have a bunch of second rate misfits and far too many similar players that have had all footballing acumen coached out of them by that Scottish rat. Yes the buck stops with Berg, but simply we’re not good enough and thats down to Venkys and the rat, its bleeding criminal what they’ve done to the town and the football club, keaning arseholes. +1.
martonrover Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 Some people need a bit of perspective here, it isn't Bergs fault we're cr@p, the players just aren't good enough. I'm sick of hearing people saying we have a great side on paper, we have a bunch of second rate misfits and far too many similar players that have had all footballing acumen coached out of them by that Scottish rat. Yes the buck stops with Berg, but simply we’re not good enough and thats down to Venkys and the rat, its bleeding criminal what they’ve done to the town and the football club, keaning arseholes. Agreed, but doesn't change the fact he's miles out of his depth at this level.
Gav Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 Agreed, but doesn't change the fact he's miles out of his depth at this level. How can you judge that after 9 games with a load of cr@p at his disposal? bit harsh IMO
AggyBlue Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 I'll judge Berg when he's assembled his own team, it's unfair to do so when he's only got Keans set of misfits to pick from
Gav Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 I'll judge Berg when he's assembled his own team, it's unfair to do so when he's only got Keans set of misfits to pick from Not sure he's going to get the opportunity Aggy, Singh said they'd not even discussed transfer targets and the window is about to open
Oklahoma Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 If Singh was inteligent, he wouldn't admit to any plans for January. Transfers should be done quietly, even if you already know who you want in and out. Berg is too passive in the bench, doesn't do substitutions, hardly interferes in the match. And he can hardly do anything considering that we have Muprhy, Etuhu and Lowe for central midfielders. Too poor, unlike most thought it would be with those 3.
Backroom DE. Posted December 16, 2012 Backroom Posted December 16, 2012 How can you judge that after 9 games with a load of cr@p at his disposal? bit harsh IMO I'll judge Berg when he's assembled his own team, it's unfair to do so when he's only got Keans set of misfits to pick from Berg knew exactly who he had at his disposal when he joined the club. His words at the time were that the target was promotion and nothing else, therefore he certainly didn't believe the squad was incapable of achieving this task. By January we'll already be very far behind and any new signings (if there are any) will take some time to gel. It was obvious when Henning came in that we needed to pick up points before January and that the bulk of this squad would be who he had to pick from for this season. If Berg comes in and says "promotion is the target for this season" then there is NOTHING unfair about judging him based on his current team because it's the same team he will have analysed before coming out with such statements. Or are we meant to assume Berg is immune to any and all criticism on the basis it's "not his team"?
ada2020 Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 No discussions have happened, because Singh has picked his targets. It's then down to berg to make the pieces fit, hopefully Singh can identify the players needed to utilise his £8million striker.........
martonrover Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 How can you judge that after 9 games with a load of cr@p at his disposal? bit harsh IMO Even with these players results substandard. Stands there looking perplexed and doesnt take initiative to make right substitutions. He is just not the answer ( we're talking about a guy who even Bury thought wouldnt cut it )
roverandout Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 couldnt you say the same about mick mccarthy at ipswich? look how he has gotten some results, same with freedman at bolton and dyche with burnley, at the end of the day berg has had long enough to at least have made some impact and he hasnt, there are no signs that he will either, do people really believe we will spend shed loads on the squad in the window? obviously not so we will be stuck with the same players till the end of the season, so how will berg improve things if so? when do we judge him then? at the end of the season when its too late?
bluefred Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 couldnt you say the same about mick mccarthy at ipswich? look how he has gotten some results, same with freedman at bolton and dyche with burnley, at the end of the day berg has had long enough to at least have made some impact and he hasnt, there are no signs that he will either, do people really believe we will spend shed loads on the squad in the window? obviously not so we will be stuck with the same players till the end of the season, so how will berg improve things if so? when do we judge him then? at the end of the season when its too late? so what do we do now ? sack him and get who ?
chaddyrovers Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 so what do we do now ? sack him and get who ? fans will say Hughes but I think he has change completely from the manager rovers had back then to now! Got too big for his boots and seems to have change as person imo
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