[Archived] Henning Berg - Rovers Manager

[Steve Moss]

Have you had the (mis)pleasure of seeing us live and in the flesh? It would change your opinion dramatically both on the teams play-off fortunes and Berg's management credentials. He may be a decent man, I don't know him.

No. Which is a source of distress.

So from my limited television and other video viewing, Berg seems to me to be a methodical manager. He won't be stampeded into wholesale cut and paste changes in the squad. He's taking what he's got and patiently attempting to find our best line up, injuries permitting, with small changes here and there.

I think he's a good manager as he's not acting like 90% of the supporters on this board. If most of use were in charge, we'd have a dramatically unsettled, chaotic side and would be plunging toward oblivion. Berg is not letting fear or panic dictate his decisions. He's doing it right and will get it right.

I really hope he's given funds to strengthen the midfield come January, and that he can sell whomever he likes.

is that really true prestonblue.?

so employees are forbidden to tell their family and friends, if they had a good night or not and what they enjoyed and didnt enjoy. CRAZY!

Welcome to BRFC, where the board is incompetent and/or dysfunctional and has to hide its ineffectiveness by threatening working people with termination.

The continuous self-inflicted wounds amaze me. Whether distressing incompetence or the result of some Machiavellian genius' devious planning, the club is in deep trouble.

[47er]

Well greco you're wrong

Allardyce is West Hams manager not ours

Maybe you should put more effort into supporting the current manager instead of living in the past

I can see why the past is an uncomfortable place for you Gav!

[Salgado Is A Hero]

So from my limited television and other video viewing, Berg seems to me to be a methodical manager. He won't be stampeded into wholesale cut and paste changes in the squad. He's taking what he's got and patiently attempting to find our best line up, injuries permitting, with small changes here and there.

I think he's a good manager as he's not acting like 90% of the supporters on this board. If most of use were in charge, we'd have a dramatically unsettled, chaotic side and would be plunging toward oblivion. Berg is not letting fear or panic dictate his decisions. He's doing it right and will get it right.

I think that argument would hold more weight if we were playing anywhere near our strongest side.

However, Vukcevic and Givet haven't had much of a look-in, Martin Olsson is wasted at LB, Marcus Olsson has played a few times, Etuhu hasn't been dropped, zero creativity in the middle, Formica on the right so a lot of the time we've just closed off one wing etc

Imo our strongest side atm would be -

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Ribeiro Dann/Hanley Givet Henley

Kazim Vukcevic Lowe Martin Olsson

Rochina/Nuno Gomes

Rhodes

But each side that has been put out has looked considerably weaker than that imo.

I don't want him to leave or anything. I'm aware of all the mitigating circumstances that mean he should be given time and be given the benefit of the doubt in some cases.

But I'm wary because in that Blackpool game our system clearly wasn't working yet he did nothing. I didn't notice him trying to motivate the players and 15th in the table with no clean sheets isn't a very good record.

I remember when Hughes took over....and have used that in defence of Berg a few times.....but he was sorting out our defence and making us hard to beat, that was obvious.....I don't know what Berg is trying to do......we were hitting it long quite often on Saturday.....I know the pitch was bad but I think we've been doing that more recently anyway.....but we weren't as much when he took over....so no real progess is being made on him getting the players to learn his system.

Maybe he does just need 2/3 players and we'd be alright.......but this season is so important that if results don't pick up over the next 3/4 games then f##k it, try and get someone else in.....or just give the job back to Black or something.

[Puffsan]

I agree with alot of what you write salgado and we must also not forget its very hard to compare what hughes did with the situation we are in now and what berg tries to do.

When Hughes took over we were in the premier league and we would be the underdog in a lot of games. In that position you can allow yourself to sit back and defend really well and be hard to beat and wait for an opportunity to attack.

Now we are in the championship, and even if we have played crap we are expected to be the dominant team. The fans expect rovers to lead the game and create the pressure, many teams will come to ewood park and defend really well because because they respect the quality of our squad.

You can almost compare this situation with the Norwegian national team and our coach egil Olsen. He is very focused on defending well and wait for the right opportunity to attack. And norway constantly achieves very good results versus good teams like Germany, Italy and Portugal, but when they play vs average teams on our same level or poorer teams like Scotland, Albania and Cyprus they very often struggle a lot to get a good results because they are not used to being the dominant side and creating the most chances.

Also it's a big mental challenge for the players to adapt to the fact that we should be the dominant team.

When Eric black took over after youknowwho he made us a lot harder to beat. I thought that was the correct thing to do at that time, but I remember that a lot of people on this message board complained about us defending too much iand not creating enough chances. I think I read one or two who actually said black was worse than youknowwho, and they would never come back if he got the job permanently.

And now a lot of people say they would rather have had black in charge. Talk about goldfish memory. Fans are never happy until the team surfs through this league, and this league is not a league where you can simply walk through it

[Mr. E]

In a statement, Berg said: “On Monday evening, the club arranged its official Christmas Party for all employees and staff.

"We have many hard-working employees and this was an opportunity for them to relax and enjoy themselves after what has been a difficult year.

“After the dinner I was asked to go to the stage, which I was happy to do, believing I would be asked a few questions or maybe judge a competition.

"Instead I was asked to do things which were not the right things for me to do as the manager, considering our league position and form.

"I did not want to do it and went back to my table. Later, I left the event at around 9.30pm, as planned, and drove home. The players left straight after dinner and no alcohol was consumed.”

Blackburn Rovers FC, 2012.

[SydneyRover]

And now a lot of people say they would rather have had black in charge. Talk about goldfish memory. Fans are never happy until the team surfs through this league, and this league is not a league where you can simply walk through

There's a huge difference between "walking through" this league, and what we're doing at the moment.

If Berg carries on accumulating points at the current rate we'll likely get relegated.

The fans don't largely expect the team to "surf through" this league, but a realistic promotion challenge is a bare minimum for a club like ours which has come down from the PL.

Berg has had a poor managerial career so far and this pattern looks like its continuing at Ewood.

Too early to sack him after nine games, but if there's no significant improvement after six further games, then I think we would be better advised seeing what replacements are available.

[USABlue]

No. Which is a source of distress.

So from my limited television and other video viewing, Berg seems to me to be a methodical manager. He won't be stampeded into wholesale cut and paste changes in the squad. He's taking what he's got and patiently attempting to find our best line up, injuries permitting, with small changes here and there.

I think he's a good manager as he's not acting like 90% of the supporters on this board. If most of use were in charge, we'd have a dramatically unsettled, chaotic side and would be plunging toward oblivion. Berg is not letting fear or panic dictate his decisions. He's doing it right and will get it right.

I really hope he's given funds to strengthen the midfield come January, and that he can sell whomever he likes.

You know that is exactly how I felt. That he would tinker here tinker there with no great success and then slowly but surely a pattern would develop and results would come, who knows even 9 more games and I was ok with this. What sort of torpedoed that view below the water line for me was a simple fact. Etuhu stayed on the park the whole game against Blackpool. I will say this Berg had words with Etuhu I think at about 75 mins and after that he finally started to get stuck in a bit. Why he put up with that powder puff performance for that long is something that has made me dither in my support for Berg.

There's a huge difference between "walking through" this league, and what we're doing at the moment.

If Berg carries on accumulating points at the current rate we'll likely get relegated.

The fans don't largely expect the team to "surf through" this league, but a realistic promotion challenge is a bare minimum for a club like ours which has come down from the PL.

Berg has had a poor managerial career so far and this pattern looks like its continuing at Ewood.

Too early to sack him after nine games, but if there's no significant improvement after six further games, then I think we would be better advised seeing what replacements are available.

HIstory shows many many clubs that have done so and faltered hugely. Many never got back, some so called big teams at that too, way bigger in terms of support than we could even dream about.

In a statement, Berg said: “On Monday evening, the club arranged its official Christmas Party for all employees and staff.

"We have many hard-working employees and this was an opportunity for them to relax and enjoy themselves after what has been a difficult year.

“After the dinner I was asked to go to the stage, which I was happy to do, believing I would be asked a few questions or maybe judge a competition.

"Instead I was asked to do things which were not the right things for me to do as the manager, considering our league position and form.

"I did not want to do it and went back to my table. Later, I left the event at around 9.30pm, as planned, and drove home. The players left straight after dinner and no alcohol was consumed.”

Blackburn Rovers FC, 2012.

Really? Who gives a flying monkeys.

[Gav]

you missed a couple of questions gav, they should be really really easy to answer. Atleast if your opinion has some consistency, when it comes to supporting, or not supporting your club and its manager. As its christmas, my faith in people grows and that goes for you too, so im looking forward to reading you answer, to the qestions i asked, in my previous post

In regards to your last sentence, i´ll refer you to martinrover and blue and white army´s posts. I´ll just add this, take a look at my location gav, hopefully that will reassure you, that im not causing any trouble at our games

What makes you think I'm going to sit here and answer your questions greco? the stump at the bottom of my Christmas tree has more importance in my life than you do, no disrespect intended

sorry gav, i have been through the bad times, like last time we were relegated and this is far worse, then we had jack walker and john williams and a poor manager, this time we have a load of clowns and a very poor manager with no sign we can turn it around, i dont beleive for one minute berg will get us promoted nor do i beleive he is anything other than a pundit trying his hand at management, he was @#/? appointment and i will stand by that from now till the end of the season when he is inevitably sacked.

You could well be right, I've said the same myself, but thankfully the majority are still supporting the manager and thats how it should be, for now!

I can see why the past is an uncomfortable place for you Gav!

So can I, being attributed comments made by other posters, good job I've got skin like a rhino

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

To put Berg's management at Rovers into perspective - the Blackpool match was roughly his sixth week in charge - that only amounts to a pre-season. I am worried - but he does deserve more time to put right the wrongs of two years of mis-management.

[John]

On results to date under Berg, you can't deny that they have been nothing but abysmal - current form would see us in and around the relegation spots.

[Gav]

On results to date under Berg, you can't deny that they have been nothing but abysmal - current form would see us in and around the relegation spots.

Nobody has, or would deny that, but you support your manager until you see fit as to support him no more, and anyone not supporting him after 9 games needs to find another hobby IMO.

[greco]

well gav, you´ve now quoted my posts a several times and if it was so uninteresting, why even bother answering my posts then? you just dont make sense and that is quite obvious, even to the stump at the bottom of your christmas tree.

[Rover_Shaun]

You support your manager until you see fit as to support him no more, and anyone blindly supporting him after 9 games and only 1 win needs to wake up

[martonrover]

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Under normal circumstances I would agree with that.

Unfortunately these are not normal circumstances and in my view Berg is part of a management team with Singh.

[Jimmy612]

So can I, being attributed comments made by other posters, good job I've got skin like a rhino

You did call Allardyce a Fat Slug on a number of occasions and you did celebrate quite exuberantly on here when he was sacked. I remember quoting it back to you after it had all gone tits up (as many predicted).

For what its worth I agree with you with what your saying about Berg, 9 games is far too soon to judge him, particularly at a club in complete chaos! We do not know what is happening behind closed doors regarding Shebbys influence, what Berg is an is not allowed to do. Personally I think he is here, of course primarily to enhance his career, but also I believe he has the best interests of the club at heart.

This is no quick fix, infact I'm not sure there is any fix under Venkys reign, at present I can only see diaster.

[Rover_Shaun]

I'm sure in the future 'someone' will tell us how he saw through Berg from the off and new he wouldn't make it at Ewood. Hmmmm!

[bypass06]

Blackburn Rovers will listen to offers for Robinson

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/blackburn_rovers/news/10120217.Blackburn_Rovers_will_listen_to_offers_for_Robinson/

ROVERS COLUMN: Berg needs help from the top

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/blackburn_rovers/news/10120245.ROVERS_COLUMN__Berg_needs_help_from_the_top/

[dr_awol]

Blackburn Rovers will listen to offers for Robinson

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/blackburn_rovers/news/10120217.Blackburn_Rovers_will_listen_to_offers_for_Robinson/

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I hope this is part of the squad rebuilding that rovers desperately need come January

[Gav]

You did call Allardyce a Fat Slug on a number of occasions and you did celebrate quite exuberantly on here when he was sacked. I remember quoting it back to you after it had all gone tits up (as many predicted).

For what its worth I agree with you with what your saying about Berg, 9 games is far too soon to judge him, particularly at a club in complete chaos! We do not know what is happening behind closed doors regarding Shebbys influence, what Berg is an is not allowed to do. Personally I think he is here, of course primarily to enhance his career, but also I believe he has the best interests of the club at heart.

This is no quick fix, infact I'm not sure there is any fix under Venkys reign, at present I can only see diaster.

Absolute rubbish jimmy, you're getting me mixed up with another poster, but you're in good compnay.

Agreed on the rest of your points.

I hope this is part of the squad rebuilding that rovers desperately need come January

Final piece of the cost cutting measures if you ask me.

You support your manager until you see fit as to support him no more, and anyone blindly supporting him after 9 games and only 1 win needs to wake up

So then, Berg gets sacked today, who you going to bring in?

[Rover_Shaun]

Tough question Gav. Sadly one our clubs administrators couldn't and can't answer.

I'd give Hughes a go. He's good with no money

[Stuart]

Without PL money or significant gates, we can't afford the likes of Robinson (much as it pains me).

We are going to have to cut our cloth accordingly.

Those people calling for Berg's head, and even worse suggesting he's worse than Kean, just remember. We are now picking up the pieces of Kean's tenure. Life as a lower-to-mid Championship club. It's going to be hard for a few to swallow but it was all over after relegation.

Just imagine where we will be when we are picking up the pieces at the end of Venkys' tenure. We won't even be able to afford Berg's wages!

[John]

Come on Gav, you hated Big Sam with a passion, absolutely despised the man - may not have used those insults, but you made your feelings more than clear at the time.

But that was in the past which none of us can change....

[Gav]

Tough question Gav. Sadly one our clubs administrators couldn't and can't answer.

I'd give Hughes a go. He's good with no money

Pie in the sky pal, they'll not pay for Hughes or anyone else of similar calibre, it'll be another one in the Berg mould, hungry, after a chance at the big-time and MOST OF ALL CHEAP!

Come on Gav, you hated Big Sam with a passion, absolutely despised the man - may not have used those insults, but you made your feelings more than clear at the time.

But that was in the past which none of us can change....

You're spot on John I did, but I NEVER called him the names that my fellow posts did, and thats the difference in my book, just pointing that out.

[dr_awol]

Pie in the sky pal, they'll not pay for Hughes or anyone else of similar calibre, it'll be another one in the Berg mould, hungry, after a chance at the big-time and MOST OF ALL CHEAP!

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not that Berg deserves to be sacked yet, Hughes still would not be a popular appointment as some supporters would see him a damage goods, i personally think he would jump ship as soon as a better team(bigger budget) comes along.

Also a lot of supporters on here where stating how poor Robinson performances have been of late and that they will love Brad back in a heart beat. so its no big loss

[thenodrog]

In a statement, Berg said: “On Monday evening, the club arranged its official Christmas Party for all employees and staff.

"We have many hard-working employees and this was an opportunity for them to relax and enjoy themselves after what has been a difficult year.

“After the dinner I was asked to go to the stage, which I was happy to do, believing I would be asked a few questions or maybe judge a competition.

"Instead I was asked to do things which were not the right things for me to do as the manager, considering our league position and form.

"I did not want to do it and went back to my table. Later, I left the event at around 9.30pm, as planned, and drove home. The players left straight after dinner and no alcohol was consumed.”

Blackburn Rovers FC, 2012.

Quote USA Blue...... Really? Who gives a flying monkeys.

Me. Whoever set that up wants carpetting and carpetting big style! The manager needs to command respect and not have some fly bstard trying to take the p1ss in front of the whole club. And that is essentially what it was. Berg needs to repair the damage by punishing and humiliating those responsible as harshly as he can. In fact he needs to think SAF!