[Archived] Henning Berg - Rovers Manager

[greco]

below average start to berg´s managerial career at rovers.

I cant understand why, that those who speak negatively about berg, are being shot down so harshly. Its quite simple, if some posters can evaluate and come to the conclusion about berg and his strenghts(the happyclappers who feel they are morally coming from the highground), then the opposite is also achieveable. There are tons of posts with praise for berg and his abilities, perhaps the happyclappers should shoot down those as well, as they arent backed up with enough knowledge.

He isnt getting fired, nobody has said they wanted that, but some are debating his managerial ability and whether he is capable or not and this is being done on the grounds of what they have seen so far. Perfectly natural imo.

Personally i dont know enough about him and im sitting comfortably in the "he needs time" camp.

[Athlete]

It's better than it was before he arrived and most people will back their employers.

Ha ha he was bigging coco up before he got the job

[Batman.]

Part of the apparent point of appointing Berg was the fact he was an ex player. Quite why this was so important, I'm not so sure, but if we don't perform and pick up points in the next two games, it certainly puts paid to the so called benefits of us having an ex player in charge.

[martonrover]

Part of the apparent point of appointing Berg was the fact he was an ex player. Quite why this was so important, I'm not so sure, but if we don't perform and pick up points in the next two games, it certainly puts paid to the so called benefits of us having an ex player in charge.

That was the obsession of one S. Singh.

I reckon Super Atko was next on the list :-)

[Plastics]

Ha ha he was bigging coco up before he got the job

And this won't have had anything to do with him wanting to be employed at Rovers?

[onlyonejackwalker]

I am not sure why people are still promoting the myth we have the best squad of players in this division, when all the evidence suggests and states otherwise. Whoever came in was instantly lumbered with the problem of managing the squad inbalance and inferior quality players we have purchased for the last two years under the clueless maniac.

We are unfortunately biding our time until the January sales, like most Xmas shoppers. Berg cannot be accurately assessed until he has had chance to introduce some new signings and let's be honest we need Best to come back and hit the ground running if possible (big ask) and at least three to four new players in other areas as well to have any chance of automatic promotion.

I remain impressed with the job Berg is doing, but this was always a very big job ahead and time will be needed. Others have stated that this year should be one of consolidation, reflection and re-building due to the ridiculous way we have restructered the playing staff this last year or two and for me that is a very fair assessment.

[Athlete]

And this won't have had anything to do with him wanting to be employed at Rovers?

Possible but Hendry not too be trusted especially were moneys concerned....what really did my head was anyone bigging coco up they aren't clamoring to offer him a position now though....as for crooked Colin how has he shored up the defense?

[tomphil]

Part of the apparent point of appointing Berg was the fact he was an ex player. Quite why this was so important, I'm not so sure, but if we don't perform and pick up points in the next two games, it certainly puts paid to the so called benefits of us having an ex player in charge.

They thought it would put a few thousand on every home crowd probably but it's not. Yet.

[Athlete]

They thought it would put a few thousand on the every home crowd probably but it's not.

2 seasons back with great marketing and competitive pricing we were averageing around the 25k even against the lesser clubs but fast forward to now 12k hardcore home fans...this is what Venkys have done to our club

[Stuart]

They thought it would put a few thousand on every home crowd probably but it's not. Yet.

Hopefully it's a timing issue and there will be a few half season tickets sold over the festive period.

It'll be interesting to factor in the result on Sunday. Defeat could another excuse the final nail in the coffin for a lot of stayaways.

I'd love to know how many people - if they were honest - have not renewed because we aren't in the PL any more. I suspect it's a lot.

[NH1875]

Hopefully it's a timing issue and there will be a few half season tickets sold over the festive period.

It'll be interesting to factor in the result on Sunday. Defeat could another excuse the final nail in the coffin for a lot of stayaways.

I'd love to know how many people - if they were honest - have not renewed because we aren't in the PL any more. I suspect it's a lot.

Probably almost half of those who didn't renew unfortunately, they were probably the same ones that bought STs so they could watch United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool every year for a fraction of the price compared with elsewhere, the ones who bought STs for those games only, and didn't turn up if it was Sunderland, Stoke or Fulham at home...

[den]

Stuart, if you really want to know why fans have gone and aren't returning, look to the owners - don't apportion blame to fickle fans. We've had the figures as to how many we lost last time we were relegated, compared to how many we've lost this time round - and as many on here previously said, [including me and notably Mattyblue],once fans don't buy season tickets they don't return.

Kean being sacked was for many fans, only a pointer as to Venky's possibly changing their ways. Kean leaving wasn't the only criteria here, the main criteria was, and is, the Raos.

[G Somerset Rover]

Henning really does need to give Simon a shot on either flank. He cannot do worse than Marcus or Formica yet barely gets 5 minutes each time despite even Berg claiming 'Simon has a big role to play this season'. A big role on the bench for 85 mins each week?

Hanley also needs dropping for Givet, while I'd also bring back Lowe, possibly for 4-year deal man Etuhu. What an awful piece of business that's looking.

[Stuart]

Stuart, if you really want to know why fans have gone and aren't returning, look to the owners - don't apportion blame to fickle fans. We've had the figures as to how many we lost last time we were relegated, compared to how many we've lost this time round - and as many on here previously said, [including me and notably Mattyblue],once fans don't buy season tickets they don't return.

Kean being sacked was for many fans, only a pointer as to Venky's possibly changing their ways. Kean leaving wasn't the only criteria here, the main criteria was, and is, the Raos.

I know they're a bit mad but City fans didn't desert the club when they were in League One. Nor during the more worrying times during the Frank era.

Fickle is your word but I recall good crowds for a certain London derby being shown on a big screen outside the Blackburn end not too long ago, so if the cap fits. Some fans did seem to enjoy the opposition almost as much as Rovers. Maybe half is right, as Niall says, but if even half of the indignant stayaways had protested (half of half even), we'd have made a hell of a lot more noise.

I don't buy they it's "just Venkys" that are keeping them away, any more than it was "just Kean". A mix of money priorities and not so trendy opposition seems entirely plausible. Although I will accept that a lot will have got out of the habit because of how long it took for Kean to go.

It's a shame really because although results haven't been good, the atmosphere and enjoyment are so much better this last month or so. Having to share a win with face-ache was stomach churning - as Chelsea fans are about to find out.

I wonder where Mattyblue is these days, now you come to mention it though, den. One of my favourite posters, I don't mind admitting.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

<p>I really think nothing much has changed in reality,we are still a club deep in limbo.

We have lost roughy half our support with to date no sign them returning as the club had hoped.We have a squad that is not as good as we would like to think paying crazy money for average players and if brutally honest,we have just appointed a manager who in all matter of fact is a total rookie at this level.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

I don't buy they it's "just Venkys" that are keeping them away, any more than it was "just Kean". A mix of money priorities and not so trendy opposition seems entirely plausible. Although I will accept that a lot will have got out of the habit because of how long it took for Kean to go.

Kean stopped me buying a season ticket - as I am sure it did many others. Though I have only actually missed one home match so far this season. Unfortunately I probably won't buy a half season ticket - as it doesn't make economic sense for me - but will probably purchase a season ticket next year (irrespective of division).

I am sure that many ex-season ticket holders are picking and choosing their matches - e.g. should I go to watch Millwall or Bolton. Biggest problem with buying tickets - is it always feels expensive when you are paying on a match by match basis - and it also becomes a choice - when you have a season ticket you just go.

[Mercer]

Kean stopped me buying a season ticket - as I am sure it did many others. Though I have only actually missed one home match so far this season. Unfortunately I probably won't buy a half season ticket - as it doesn't make economic sense for me - but will probably purchase a season ticket next year (irrespective of division).

I am sure that many ex-season ticket holders are picking and choosing their matches - e.g. should I go to watch Millwall or Bolton. Biggest problem with buying tickets - is it always feels expensive when you are paying on a match by match basis - and it also becomes a choice - when you have a season ticket you just go.

Very true.

Forked out for a handful of tickets for Wolves' match at £29 each and it was dire. As a consequence, gave the Millwall match a miss at £25/ticket but on board for Bolton at £15/ticket.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

Very true.

Forked out for a handful of tickets for Wolves' match at £29 each and it was dire. As a consequence, gave the Millwall match a miss at £25/ticket but on board for Bolton at £15/ticket.

Mercerman - you should try the Riverside - it was only £15 for the Millwall match.

[Plastics]

He buys the most expensive so he can feel ripped off, I think.

[thenodrog]

2 seasons back with great marketing and competitive pricing we were averageing around the 25k even against the lesser clubs but fast forward to now 12k hardcore home fans...this is what Venkys have done to our their club.

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[Amo]

Mercerman - you should try the Riverside - it was only £15 for the Millwall match.

Martyrdom doesn't work like that.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Stuart, if you really want to know why fans have gone and aren't returning, look to the owners - don't apportion blame to fickle fans. We've had the figures as to how many we lost last time we were relegated, compared to how many we've lost this time round - and as many on here previously said, [including me and notably Mattyblue],once fans don't buy season tickets they don't return.

Kean being sacked was for many fans, only a pointer as to Venky's possibly changing their ways. Kean leaving wasn't the only criteria here, the main criteria was, and is, the Raos.

That's my view as well Den. We either get rid of Venkies or they get rid of Rovers.

[Plastics]

How? And then what?

[Mercer]

Mercerman - you should try the Riverside - it was only £15 for the Millwall match.

Used to be a 'Riversider' before ground redevelopment. Been in JW since built and don't see why I should change where I sit just because, IMO, the club has screwed-up its pricing of mid season tickets for JW. Not only that, I have others to consider who I take to Ewood.

I know I keep banging on about this but I think it's utter madness to price supporters out of the JW and unnecessarily cost the club revenue. The consequences of this will continue with thousands upon thousands of seats remaining empty in the JW. IMO, no wonder our club is in such a mess with such commerical idiocy.

[Stuart]

I know I keep banging on about this but I think it's utter madness to price supporters out of the JW and unnecessarily cost the club revenue. The consequences of this will continue with thousands upon thousands of seats remaining empty in the JW. IMO, no wonder our club is in such a mess with such commerical idiocy.

But you can afford it, can you not? And you don't want to sit anywhere else? Your argument therefore seems hollow.

The alternative perspective is that season tickets have been sold for well below the "going rate" (for equivalent clubs) for many years. It's just that now, following relegation, the price for the JW views is nearer to the "going rate" than other parts of the ground - and it's still (relatively speaking) cheap.