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[Archived] Henning Berg - Rovers Manager


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Berg won't turn it around.

We had the likes of Holloway, McCarthy etc on the table, managers with proven experience in this division, and yet we chose to give the job to a man with a mediocre at best record in the Norweigian League.

Absolute madness. I agree with the above poster who says we are in for decades in the wilderness.

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As a manager you're only as good as your players, as they go and do the job for you.

A good manager will be able to improve even the most hopeless teams. We aren't hopeless because there is talent in the squad but we are not improving. It doesn't matter that Henning Berg did not sign these players, it's his team, he is responsible for tactics and selection and he is responsible for results. He carries the can and at the moment he is failing in his job.

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I actually feel sorry for berg. turning up for training with a load of players he knows nothing about in terms of strengths or weaknesses. I can see us releasing a lot of players in January and at the end of the season.

the amount of dead wood is astonishing and its probably the biggest clear out operation the club has ever had to do.

all the portugese lads must go.

on the other hand, players always usually respond positively to a new manager in charge and so far berg couldnt galvanise a turd quite frankly.

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Bolton fans singing- you should have kept steve kean ,finding it hard to disagree.

No nay never. We are in this mess BECAUSE of that keaning kean.

Were you one of the handful of idiots who clapped when that chant went up?

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Blaming Venky's for tonight's defeat is nonsense. It boils down to Berg's stubbornness not to change the team.

Etuhu was shocking and should have been taken off at HT. Instead, he's taken off at 2-0 and Lowe finally have us some much needed legs in the middle of the park. Lowe has to start against Burnley. Also, 4-4-2 worked a lot better. Rhodes had a lot more service and he needs to stick with this formation.

Venky's have to take a huge part of the blame, but tonight the finger can only be pointed at the man in charge.

Hopefully he can change it around but 2 home defeats on the bounce isn't very promising and is signs for concern.

is Berg picking the team or his someone else having an input as anyone with any sense can see the midfield needs overhauling and Rhodes needs service....or are we coming to conclusions and its just Berg is out his depth his last stint a few years ago in Norway wasn't exactly a resounding success plus most managers always work with there regular backroom team...Berg hasn't got that...

What exactly does Etuhu offer?

same as Murphy absolute nothing....doesn't look like Fulham are missing those 2 at the moment does it...great business by Jol getting rid of those two..

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Blaming Venky's for tonight's defeat is nonsense. It boils down to Berg's stubbornness not to change the team.

Etuhu was shocking and should have been taken off at HT. Instead, he's taken off at 2-0 and Lowe finally have us some much needed legs in the middle of the park. Lowe has to start against Burnley. Also, 4-4-2 worked a lot better. Rhodes had a lot more service and he needs to stick with this formation.

Venky's have to take a huge part of the blame, but tonight the finger can only be pointed at the man in charge.

Hopefully he can change it around but 2 home defeats on the bounce isn't very promising and is signs for concern.

Of course it is venkys fault Ffs !!! They've single handly shagged us over. They appointed cock. , they kept him , they dithered and dallied in appointing ,they don't ever attend .

Scumkys out

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When Berg was appointed Shebby Singh stated that 'promotion was the minimum expectation'. Berg repeated this when he took over. Thats a lot of pressure to put on yourself. Berg has since brought none of his own staff in and continues not to play Simon, Pedersen or CKR. Do people still think he's 'his own man' and not a yes-man? i have my doubts.

think every Rovers fan coming off last night is now having doubts something isn't right at the club time for the owners and shabby to start getting more stick...unless we go on a winning streak starting with Sunday but IMO at this moment in time can't see that happening a draw at best at Burnley on the cards then another home defeat against top of the table Cardiff is looking a more likely outcome I'm afraid

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Berg is working within his means, that means with the players at his disposal. The players at his disposal are appalling. It's really simple, no conspiracy behind it.

He has no back room staff of his own choosing, because the money is not there to replace the existing ones. Again, no conspiracy.

Berg can't overhaul a midfield outside of the window,in fact I'll be damned surprised if he can overhaul it in January.

Rovers are screwed, we are a disgrace from top to bottom. There is not a chink of light anywhere in the organisation. These are the stark truths.

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Berg is working within his means, that means with the players at his disposal. The players at his disposal are appalling. It's really simple, no conspiracy behind it.

He has no back room staff of his own choosing, because the money is not there to replace the existing ones. Again, no conspiracy.

Berg can't overhaul a midfield outside of the window,in fact I'll be damned surprised if he can overhaul it in January.

Rovers are screwed, we are a disgrace from top to bottom. There is not a chink of light anywhere in the organisation. These are the stark truths.

we he could start by playing Givet ( best defender on the clubs books ), CKR ( even with his bad attitude ) + Pedersen ( who can at least provide rhodes with some kind of service ) and what about Simon....

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What exactly does Etuhu offer?

And there is the main problem. We need a mobile midfielder who can do the simple things like short passing and marking/tackling. He doesnt have to be outstanding. Unfortunately Murphy, Etuhu and Dunn don't have the legs and Lowe is too limited as a footballer.

If we could get ontop of teams in the middle of the pitch we would be able to allow the wide/'flair' players to play. Peterborough were so bad they allowed us to do this and look what happened. Unfortunately the squad is packed with rochinas, formicas, nunes and ollssons so there is no options to add any steel in there. If only we had a Jones in there (Phil or Jermaine). Major priority in Jan for me. Let's hope we can keep on touch with 6th until then.

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Lets face it Kean and co have decimated the squad. Berg is fresh to this league and has an unbalanced squad. It wasn't the time for Shebby to take a gamble but he did.

Berg is no doubt trying his best. The blame should lie with the man that made the decision to take a risk.

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Berg won't turn it around.

We had the likes of Holloway, McCarthy etc on the table, managers with proven experience in this division, and yet we chose to give the job to a man with a mediocre at best record in the Norweigian League.

Absolute madness. I agree with the above poster who says we are in for decades in the wilderness.

Replace "we" with Shebby

To a point you're right but the buck stops with Berg now. He chooses the squad and the starting eleven, up to now I'm not impressed. The midfield is a running sore.

Are we 100% sure on that given that some of the Kean symptoms remain, sticking with under/non performers, Simon getting meager minutes. Bit odd init?

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Berg is working within his means, that means with the players at his disposal. The players at his disposal are appalling. It's really simple, no conspiracy behind it.

He has no back room staff of his own choosing, because the money is not there to replace the existing ones. Again, no conspiracy.

Berg can't overhaul a midfield outside of the window,in fact I'll be damned surprised if he can overhaul it in January.

Rovers are screwed, we are a disgrace from top to bottom. There is not a chink of light anywhere in the organisation. These are the stark truths.

I don't buy this argument that the squad is appalling. It might not be as good as the Newcastle or West Ham sides that got promoted but it still ought to be in the play offs mix at the very least.

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we he could start by playing Givet ( best defender on the clubs books ), CKR ( even with his bad attitude ) + Pedersen ( who can at least provide rhodes with some kind of service ) and what about Simon....

+100

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Berg still has time to turn things around and the Dingledome would be a great place to start.

The more appropriate question might be: Will the owners LET him?

I still believe there's something shady about our selection policy.

Shebby

What is bothering me, I only saw one game, the Brum one but it was like night and day from what I had seen the season and a half prior. I really thought we were on the up. Can SOMEONE please explain why Simon can not get a game, I saw him against Brum and he was absolute class as was that young Nunes if I understand right young Nunes is injured but WTF with Simon he was streets ahead in craft, invention and passion his execution was top notch great touch and excellent vision now why can he not get a keaning game.

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If anything I actually feel more hopeless about the situation with Berg here than I did with Kean here.

With Kean, you knew he couldn't last forever, it's a disgrace he lasted as long as he did, but there was still the chink of hope that we wouldn't make a similar mistake when appointing a new manager.

Now Berg's here, whilst he seems to have infinitely more integrity, it also appears his managerial capabilities aren't that much better than Coco. But now he's here for the foreseeable future, our parachute payments are going to dry up after the next couple of seasons, our few decent players are going to leave the club and our attendances are going to drop further and further.

I'm not saying we should get rid of him now, as clearly firing a manager after six games is ridiculous, he needs support from the fans and who knows maybe he will turn it round. But right now that is looking very unlikely.

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Shebby

What is bothering me, I only saw one game, the Brum one but it was like night and day from what I had seen the season and a half prior. I really thought we were on the up. Can SOMEONE please explain why Simon can not get a game, I saw him against Brum and he was absolute class as was that young Nunes if I understand right young Nunes is injured but WTF with Simon he was streets ahead in craft, invention and passion his execution was top notch great touch and excellent vision now why can he not get a keaning game.

Money.

That has to be the root of it. Otherwise the only alternative is that Berg doesn't rate him, and that doesn't bear thinking about.

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Question for those of you that were at the match last night:

What was the reaction from the players on the pitch after Boltons early goal? Anyone stand out and take responsibility - i.e. shouting/being a leader etc? Was Murphy captain? And if so did he do anything to defend that role?

I've been defending Berg but the defeat against Bolton is 100% his responsibility. Making only one change from saturdays loss against Millwall sends the wrong message to the players if you ask me. It really should be quite simple with our massive if somewhat unbalanced sqaud: play bad -> dropped next match. He should've made at least 3 changes from saturdays game to keep the players fighting for their spot on the team.

Must say I also find it strange that Berg this far has made no changes to his backroom staff. Would think this can only make his working conditions worse when we're not getting results. Clearly should've brought along his own assistant (nothing against Black though) to keep the players in line.

We need a keaning miracle this weekend against Bumley. Still hope we can turn this around but it's not looking good....

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It's pretty clear that something is not right as it appears that Berg is now doing almost the same as Kean was, ie not playing certain players and this strongly points to the fact that someone else is making team selections and tactics. I agree that sounds ridiculous but what other reason could there be for not playing Vukcevic,Givet,Pedersen,Nunes etc plus the stupid 451 formation (almost) and pathetic substitutions. Its almost like Kean never left and that strongly indicates that the same person is pulling the strings.This is just my opinion but I will totally believe it if those main four players (or most of them) are not included for Sundays match.

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