[Archived] Henning Berg - Rovers Manager

[Rovers_Dan]

Surely we can raid United for someone better than Joshua King? Come on Henning..you need to slip alex ferguson one!

[otto man]

If you mean Murphy and Etohu and a number of other useless excuses for footballers I agree. If you mean the manager after just 6 matches then don't be daft. Both Souness and Hughes had average to poor 1st seasons.

Just suppose you get your way ...

1. who would you get in?

2. Who do you think would come?

3. How would you get so many sh1t players on ludicrous contracts out?

Coco and the Fat Controllers legacy will be long lasting, severely damaging and will not be amended overnight. It could even finish us.

+10000

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Makes one despair doesn't it.

Obviously Berg has to take accountability for results, they are on his record and no-one elses, plus I've never been a fan of "I'm new here" as it tends to drag on.

However, the notion that the calibre of a manager can be definitively judged after 6 games is ludicrous.

Our current situation is reminiscent of when we went down to the 3rd for the first time ever. We should never have gone down, best squad by miles, should cakewalk this dross was said then just as now. We got in a new manager over the summer and where were we at the end of October? 19th. Furphy the next season got us to with a point or 2 of going up and went on to manage Pele.

Next time we were in the 3rd, good squad, Iley's fault we went down etc etc. Got a new young manager in over the summer. Where were we at end of Oct? 17th I think, didn't win any of his first 6 home games. Kendall went on to have a fairly good career.

As to judging King after one game. One of the worst ever debuts by a signing I remember was a certain Henning Berg, personally responsible for 3 of Sheff Weds 4 goals against us at Ewood in a semi-final. We clearly should have got rid.

Re the Sheff Wed game, i think you're mixing Berg up with Patrick Anderson.

[bypass06]

Rovers boss likely to make changes for East Lancs derby

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/blackburn_rovers/news/10081146.Rovers_boss_likely_to_make_changes_for_East_Lancs_derby/

[RoverScot]

Rovers boss likely to make changes for East Lancs derby

http://www.lancashir...st_Lancs_derby/

Pedersen on the left with CKR up front with Rhodes. Put Vukcevic on the right and bring Mark Atkins and Robbie Savage out of retirement and we are onto a winner.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Yeah, shuffle the pack again. The same old cards keep tumbling out. We sold all the Aces a while ago.

[den]

Yeah, shuffle the pack again. The same old cards keep tumbling out. We sold all the Aces a while ago.

He has no options Tyrone. The Bolton game was crying out for us to throw a couple of big lads on up front, for the last ten minutes - and just give it a go. We didn't have anyone. That's the problem with this squad [as we all know really], Berg has a lot of names to choose from, but no options.

[LeChuck]

Rovers boss likely to make changes for East Lancs derby

http://www.lancashir...st_Lancs_derby/

So reading that...Berg will start with Pedersen and CKR. I hope he makes a couple more changes too.

He has no options Tyrone. The Bolton game was crying out for us to throw a couple of big lads on up front, for the last ten minutes - and just give it a go. We didn't have anyone. That's the problem with this squad [as we all know really], Berg has a lot of names to choose from, but no options.

Totally agree Den.

I know a few people are criticising Berg for only having one plan at the moment...but we don't really have anyone for a plan 'B'. We will do when Best returns, but until then we're a bit stuck.

[thenodrog]

As to judging King after one game. One of the worst ever debuts by a signing I remember was a certain Henning Berg, personally responsible for 3 of Sheff Weds 4 goals against us at Ewood in a semi-final. We clearly should have got rid.

Sorry EiT you are completely wrong there. Berg had a good game at right back and impressed me greatly whilst the 'mare' was had by the other debutant Patrick Anderson at centre half. Suffice to say he didn't have a bad career after that did he?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrik_Andersson

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

He has no options Tyrone. The Bolton game was crying out for us to throw a couple of big lads on up front, for the last ten minutes - and just give it a go. We didn't have anyone. That's the problem with this squad [as we all know really], Berg has a lot of names to choose from, but no options.

I know Den, that's point I'm making. Between them the management have bought at least a dozen players recently. Hand on heart how many, apart from maybe Rhodes have made any sort of decent , occasional match winning impression. It's pretty hard to do that, if you had a list of names and stuck a pin it you'd get more than one success story!

[Exiled in Toronto]

Sorry EiT you are completely wrong there. Berg had a good game at right back and impressed me greatly whilst the 'mare' was had by the other debutant Patrick Anderson at centre half. Suffice to say he didn't have a bad career after that did he?

http://en.wikipedia....atrik_Andersson

Right, well these Scandinavians all look alike!

As you rightly illustrate, the point still stands. Conversely, plnty of loanees who had impressive debuts sank without trace, Keith Fear being one.

[onlyonejackwalker]

Indeed, a new Goalkeeper is where we can start. A 41 year old Friedel would have got down to the ball more quickly than Robinson against both Huddersfield and Birmingham - a cost of 4 points which would mean we would be in the top 6 and only 5-6 points off the two two. Even Adam Bogdan last night was commanding the box on our set pieces whereas Robinson was flapping around which is not what we need when our centre backs have the tendency to be shaky.

An experienced, commanding Centre back to partner any of the others we already have, along with a new Gk, would make such a difference to our defence. Add a Jermaine Jones type, a crossing right winger and a physical centre forward(Best or a back up to Best) and the team wouldn't be far off being very good for this level.

Totally agree with the positions that neeed addressing, possibly with a full back thrown in for good measure.

[Devon Rover]

Eh? Love our squad??? No fit proper target man / centre forward.... weak all along the back line.... godawful has-beens in central midfield...... and a bog ordinary gkeeper!!

Good job Kean left us with an endless supply of inside forwards eh?

At least a couple of managers have made envious comments about our squad this season and I suspect they would get more out of them than we are currently seeing.

Forwards - Rhodes and Gomes were working very well. Why the change?

Central midfield - Couldn't agree more

Goalkeeper - Same. We should have cashed in if we could in the summer.

Other areas - we have players who could make a big impact on this league if properly used and with confidence. Martin Olsson and Simon Vukcevic are a couple. I suspect most managers really would love to have our players available to them rather than the ones playing at Bristol City, Barnsley, Peterborough etc. But that doesn't mean the team is any good or that it is being managed well.

[OJRovers]

Berg:

Good points:

- Bringing in Henley

- Moving Rochina into a central role

- Getting rid of Orr

- Getting Murphy playing ok (to an extent)

- At times we have passed the ball round well (Birmingham)

Bad points:

- Our defence is still all over the place

- We're playing with two central players on the wings (no width)

- Rhodes has been more isolated

- No change in backroom staff

- Still doesn't pick Vukcevic

- Has brought in another attacking midfielder on loan, rather than a target man or central midfielder

- Givet has been frozen out

[Mike E]

Berg:

Good points:

- Bringing in Henley

- Moving Rochina into a central role

- Getting rid of Orr

- Getting Murphy playing ok (to an extent)

- At times we have passed the ball round well (Birmingham)

Bad points:

- Our defence is still all over the place

- We're playing with two central players on the wings (no width)

- Rhodes has been more isolated

- No change in backroom staff

- Still doesn't pick Vukcevic

- Has brought in another attacking midfielder on loan, rather than a target man or central midfielder

- Givet has been frozen out

Fully agreed apart from that in bold. Why's that 'bad'? In his opinion, they are good coaches. Eric Black certainly seems to be good, it's just that his advice was always ignored by Kean. Hendry, I have no liking for, but I know nothing of his coaching ability.

[martonrover]

Fully agreed apart from that in bold. Why's that 'bad'? In his opinion, they are good coaches. Eric Black certainly seems to be good, it's just that his advice was always ignored by Kean. Hendry, I have no liking for, but I know nothing of his coaching ability.

I can't help but be suspicious as to why a new manager would not make one single change to the backroom staff.

For me that's the issue more than whether the existing staff are any good.

How many other managers go to a new club and doesn't bring in at least one of his own picks?

[NH1875]

I can't help but be suspicious as to why a new manager would not make one single change to the backroom staff.

For me that's the issue more than whether the existing staff are any good.

How many other managers go to a new club and doesn't bring in at least one of his own picks?

Knowing our owners/Shebby, they'll probably kick up a stubborn fuss over contracts, compensation and everything else at the prospect of having to hire and fire more club staff.

[Amo]

Knowing our owners/Shebby, they'll probably kick up a stubborn fuss over contracts, compensation and everything else at the prospect of having to hire and fire more club staff.

Which is funny 'cause they had no problem with hiring & firing when Kean was in charge...

[J*B]

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[tomphil]

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So the usual weak links again then. Midfield will be closed down and over run from the first min, Dann or Hanley will ship the usual goal We should however carry more threat up front if CKR is on form and this is his type of game i think. Alos there will be free kicks given often and this is where Pedersen will be of value, hopefully.

[OJRovers]

Fully agreed apart from that in bold. Why's that 'bad'? In his opinion, they are good coaches. Eric Black certainly seems to be good, it's just that his advice was always ignored by Kean. Hendry, I have no liking for, but I know nothing of his coaching ability.

I want the whole of Kean's Scottish drinking crew out of the club, I don't think they are good enough based on the results, tactics, organisation, fitness, motivation and team work we've shown under Kean and now under berg. Its very unusual for the manager not to bring in a single new face. Day to day, the players won't notice much difference. Shebby described it as a 'holiday camp' when he first arrived.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

Berg:

Bad points:

- Our defence is still all over the place

- We're playing with two central players on the wings (no width)

- Rhodes has been more isolated

- No change in backroom staff

- Still doesn't pick Vukcevic

- Has brought in another attacking midfielder on loan, rather than a target man or central midfielder

- Givet has been frozen out

We have played with a wide player on the left - I agree about Formica on the right - but it all looks to be part of the plan as the full backs push on far more (hardly suprising - but in this way similar to United style of play).

Don't think Rhodes has been more isolated - it is just as bad as it has been all season.

Vukcevic and Givet is indeed a strange one - but I think he has been trying to maintain a settled side.

I agree - not certain King is really what we needed - but I suppose we will see when he has had a chance to settle.

[Oklahoma]

Blackburn Rovers in the 6 games under Berg so far – Minutes per game per player (/ means player was not even on the bench)

Paul Robinson – 90+90+90+90+90+90 = 540

Adam Hanley – 90+90+90+90+90+90 = 540

Scott Dann – 90+90+90+90+90+90 = 540

Grant Hanley – 90+90+90+90+90+90 = 540

Martin Olsson - 90+90+90+90+90+90 = 540

Jordan Rhodes – 90+90+90+80+90+90 = 530

Dickson Etuhu – 90+90+90+90+90+62 = 512

Danny Murphy – 90+90+83+59+84+90 = 496

Mauro Fórmica – 32+81+90+90+72+90 = 455

Ruben Rochina – 38+77+60+90+90+69 = 424

Marcus Olsson – 71+90+70+80+54+0 = 365

Joshua King – /+/+/+/+36+72 = 108

MGP – 58+0+0+10+0+21 = 89

CKR – 52+/+/+0+/+18 = 70

Simon Vukcevic – 19+13+30+0+6+0 = 68

Jason Lowe – /+/+7+31+0+28 = 66

Nuno Gomes – /+/+0+10+18+/ = 28

Fábio Nunes – /+/+/+21+/+/ = 21

Diogo Rosado – 0+9+/+/+/+/ = 9

So far, it is pretty clear he has 10 of the starting 11 chosen with the exception of Joshua King that has replaced Marcus Olsson in it.

I Understand that he wants the team to grow together but, after bad performances and with lack of fitness of several players, it is necessary to change the team more often.

I believe all the players that played less in his games are the ones that might leave in January. (except Dunn that has been injured)

[Dunnfc]

Ooijer had a few mares at the start but our best defender I've seen in 13 years.

[Waggy76]

Yeah, shuffle the pack again. The same old cards keep tumbling out. We sold all the Aces a while ago.

Got more Jacks than we should have !!!!!!