mac Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 Enough is enough, I've signed up hopefully we can do something about this mess we are in !
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Paul Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 Fantastic stuff from Keeley: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/glenn-keeley-this-would-beggar-belief--if-the-same-thing-didnt-keep-happening-over-and-over-at-blackburn-8541363.html Remember that day? We took 30,000 to Wembley. I told my wife it could be my only chance to see Rovers at Wembley as I set off leaving her heavily pregnant and with a two year old in full "terrible twos" tantrum mode! I survived to raise three Rovers. She did say "Yes." Keeley and Garner are amongst our strongest supporters.
Mattyblue Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 I've signed up. Though I certainly see Rev's point, it is also the case of who will be paying the bills when/if we are floundering in League 1? From the Bhatti's at Wolves, to Archer at Brighton, to Swansea's near relegation to non league, football is littered with such tales. There is every chance of Venky's cutting and running if things continue to nosedive, a rescue bid from a local consortium with a supporters stake being tabled at some point could become a reality. A return Just for you Stuart!
Sparky Marky Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 Having attended the initial Trust meetings and pledged at the time, I then formed an opinion that although their intentions were admirable, outright ownership of The Club and the ability to fund it on an ongoing basis was nothing more than a pipe dream. A view I still hold. Encouragingly, it would appear that Seneca would not be averse to a joint venture either. Is that Seneca in Newton Le Willows?
darrenrover Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 Is that Seneca in Newton Le Willows? Haydock I believe.
Sparky Marky Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 Haydock I believe. Yes, the same one. If we go by their latest set of results, Probiz looks a much safer bet. Negative net worth business, perhaps there are mitigating circumstances and I'd need to see the whole set of numbers, but it's not the type of business you would look to partner. They have a decent low-risk score but for anything approaching funding for a takeover, they'd need serious injections of cash. They'd get a mobile phone contract but not much more. (at first glance - this is my view based on current results posted on the relevant credit agency sites)
darrenrover Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 Yes, the same one. If we go by their latest set of results, Probiz looks a much safer bet. Negative net worth business, perhaps there are mitigating circumstances and I'd need to see the whole set of numbers, but it's not the type of business you would look to partner. They have a decent low-risk score but for anything approaching funding for a takeover, they'd need serious injections of cash. They'd get a mobile phone contract but not much more. (at first glance - this is my view based on current results posted on the relevant credit agency sites) I'd be inclined to agree with you Sparky looking at the figures in isolation. I think looking at the line of business that they are active in could perhaps give a clue from where the cash would come from but who knows.
bypass06 Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 Has there been any talks between the Trust and Seneca, About the possibility of working together should the need arise?
darrenrover Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 Has there been any talks between the Trust and Seneca, About the possibility of working together should the need arise? One could probably suspect so informally, cue a statement from either party..................... Possibly some time ago when both were perhaps jockeying for position so to speak and perhaps ended somewhat unamicably at the time. Only conjecture of course. Times may be different and a great heeler, who knows. It would surely be in all our best interests to make a collective, concerted effort now.
Paul Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 There are good, positive links between the Trust and Senecca
darrenrover Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 There are good, positive links between the Trust and Seneca ;-)
Stuart Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 I've signed up. Though I certainly see Rev's point, it is also the case of who will be paying the bills when/if we are floundering in League 1? From the Bhatti's at Wolves, to Archer at Brighton, to Swansea's near relegation to non league, football is littered with such tales. There is every chance of Venky's cutting and running if things continue to nosedive, a rescue bid from a local consortium with a supporters stake being tabled at some point could become a reality. A return Just for you Stuart! Good to hear you are still knocking about matey.
Glenn Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 Don't forget, all of you that have just signed up, you can now go to the top right, hit my profile and enable the "Trust Member" badge on your profile here.
47er Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 Fantastic stuff from Keeley: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/glenn-keeley-this-would-beggar-belief--if-the-same-thing-didnt-keep-happening-over-and-over-at-blackburn-8541363.html Remember that day? We took 30,000 to Wembley. I told my wife it could be my only chance to see Rovers at Wembley as I set off leaving her heavily pregnant and with a two year old in full "terrible twos" tantrum mode! I survived to raise three Rovers. She did say "Yes." Keeley and Garner are amongst our strongest supporters. A quality article featuring a man of real substance. Oh for his like around Ewood......Joined before the sacking!!
47er Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Don't forget, all of you that have just signed up, you can now go to the top right, hit my profile and enable the "Trust Member" badge on your profile here. I've just done that Glenn only to find that I am a member of the Pune 9! Very flattering(I don't think!)
T.J.Newton Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Finally decided, i will be signing up to tge trust this evening afterwork. There the only ones with an alternative plan and seem to be led by good intelligent men, that have the best intentions for the cluba and its fans.
AndyNeil Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 I've just done that Glenn only to find that I am a member of the Pune 9! Very flattering(I don't think!) In the group membership section it will say Pune 9 - if next to it, it doesn't say Pune 9 Member then you'll be glad to know you aren't
Shabani Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Just joined this minute Can't sit on the sidelines and do nothing any longer. Unfortunately, living in Asia, this is the best I can do!
Blackburn Ender Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Glenn Keeley in The Independent: http://www.independe...rn-8541363.html A quality article featuring a man of real substance. Oh for his like around Ewood...... Joined before the sacking!! I would agree with this entirely. I'd be happy with a Keeley/Faz backline (and backbone) right now. Glenn is a big supporter of the Rovers Trust as he articulates in the article and we could do with a few more of his colleagues coming out in support of the supporters. It's one thing to criticise the owners or whoever happens to be our coach, as people like Savage and Gallagher, et al do, but they could take it a significant step further and nail their colours firmly to the Rovers Trust mast. It would be a big help.
Eddie Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 I'm in full support of the trust concept, although I don't see how it can really ever achieve too much. My one fear, which in some respects came to fruition the other day, is that it can be used as a mouthpiece for individuals who aren't necessarily representing the trust, the club or the fans when they decide to make a public statement. If the trust is to be promoted as a representation of the supporters, then the public statements need to be reflective of the views of the majority.
47er Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 I would agree with this entirely. I'd be happy with a Keeley/Faz backline (and backbone) right now. Glenn is a big supporter of the Rovers Trust as he articulates in the article and we could do with a few more of his colleagues coming out in support of the supporters. It's one thing to criticise the owners or whoever happens to be our coach, as people like Savage and Gallagher, et al do, but they could take it a significant step further and nail their colours firmly to the Rovers Trust mast. It would be a big help. Have the Trust asked them and others? Worth a thought. Duggie? Salgado? Dunny(maybe in May!)
Blackburn Ender Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Steady, that's a bit harsh. He's got a living to make and may feel he can't publicly back the RoversTrust. I don't know what that would mean to either the media outlets he works for or to the club and whether it would affect future work. There is nothing to stop Kevin and other ex-players joining the Trust the same as anyone else. We do not reveal details of any member unless they give us permission and even then there would need to be a PR value in that such as Garner and Keeley taking to the media about stuff.
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