[Archived] Fitness and Training

[Silencio]

Has anyone any news of changes made by Berg at the training ground? There were stories of players choosing training times and only training 60-90 minutes a day under Kean and it was clear something was wrong with the training when a game came around.

With us playing better on Saturday I am guessing Berg has made some changes. Would be interested to know if that's the case...

[john.leigh]

Takes a bit longer than a week or so to improve fitness. However motivation and desire can be boosted immediately! :-)

[bluebruce]

I'd imagine rovers4good should have an idea...if he hadn't been hounded off the board maybe he would be telling us.

[Lie_still_Rover]

It's not as simple as breasting them until they get fit sadly. Preseason is the time to do that. Asses each player individual, v02 max, speed, agility, strength, stamina, pre hab/structural balance when the calendar is quiet and games are meaningless. If you start implementing strenuous work in the middle of a beast of a season then you will see your athletes breaking down... Sprinters train like mad to peak for their race, sometimes they get it wrong and peak afterwards. It looks to me that whoever has been looking after the strength, fitness & conditioning have been massively under utilised in pre-season. I'm not saying its impossible to improvevthevsquads fitness, of course it is. But it's not as simple as you'd like to think.

It's incredible such an important part of the game was over looked really. Especially when we aren't exactly loaded with technically gifted players.

Not "breasting".. Beasting* ha ha

[Majiball]

You can easily boost aerobic fitness levels mid-season without beasting them. Everyone can do sprint interval training at the end of sessions with all the math done for distances etc. Hit them when they're low (blood sugar) to get a bigger AMPK release and only allow them to drink water during the training prior. Pure High intensity training all the time and adjust the timing and number of sessions as needed to peak each week, experimenting and an individual approach would evetually reveal the right methods for each individual. Do this at the start of the week say monday and tuesday or even wednesday (days off dependent). Structure training so half-lifes are considered and have rest in between sessions and do other work during this time IE tactical and DVD stuff. The british cycling team averages 35 hours a week training (track/gym etc), Rovers around 6-7 hours, they can easily do more with a slowly slowly approach and the right rest/nutrition at the right times etc etc. It's all about getting in and out quickly in the main at football clubs and that combined with their shocking approach to aspects like psychology and nutrution and it's little wonder people say you can't boost it mid-season. It can be done, do Rovers have the knowledge and expertise to do it?

Highly doubtful.

[Amo]

It's not as simple as breasting them until they get fit sadly. Preseason is the time to do that. Asses each player individual

You need to get laid.

Trust me, I know this.

[Lie_still_Rover]

Sorry Maj, I was just saying you can't just hammer them. I agree with what you're saying. Why don't you work for rovers?

[davulsukur]

You need to get laid.

Trust me, I know this.

[Sparky Marky]

Sorry Maj, I was just saying you can't just hammer them. I agree with what you're saying. Why don't you work for rovers?

Cos you need to be able to do more than cut and paste........

[Stonesrick]

From what someone (who is highly respected in football) said recently, it's also important to boost Vitamin D levels in footballers at this time of the year.

Fancy another trip to Dubai lads?

[chaddyrovers]

any news on this new assistant manager berg suppose to be bringing in???

[Baz]

You can easily boost aerobic fitness levels mid-season without beasting them. Everyone can do sprint interval training at the end of sessions with all the math done for distances etc. Hit them when they're low (blood sugar) to get a bigger AMPK release and only allow them to drink water during the training prior. Pure High intensity training all the time and adjust the timing and number of sessions as needed to peak each week, experimenting and an individual approach would evetually reveal the right methods for each individual. Do this at the start of the week say monday and tuesday or even wednesday (days off dependent). Structure training so half-lifes are considered and have rest in between sessions and do other work during this time IE tactical and DVD stuff. The british cycling team averages 35 hours a week training (track/gym etc), Rovers around 6-7 hours, they can easily do more with a slowly slowly approach and the right rest/nutrition at the right times etc etc. It's all about getting in and out quickly in the main at football clubs and that combined with their shocking approach to aspects like psychology and nutrution and it's little wonder people say you can't boost it mid-season. It can be done, do Rovers have the knowledge and expertise to do it?

Highly doubtful.

Fitness was the first thing Hughes and his coaches did at Rovers, followed by working on the defense. If Berg concentrates on those and surrounds himself with, & utilises, top coaches we'll do fine this season.

[Majiball]

Cos you need to be able to do more than cut and paste........

Thats more than most can do at the club.

[Ossydave]

Whilst I agree much more work is needed on the fitness side of things, there's simply no excuse whatsoever for players to be overweight or unfit when they are taking home the pay packet they are. It's not hard to look after yourself without a coach looking over you all the time......

[Baz]

Whilst I agree much more work is needed on the fitness side of things, there's simply no excuse whatsoever for players to be overweight or unfit when they are taking home the pay packet they are. It's not hard to look after yourself without a coach looking over you all the time......

I think there's a big difference between being fit, and being really fit, especially in professional sport.

[ABBEY]

Whilst I agree much more work is needed on the fitness side of things, there's simply no excuse whatsoever for players to be overweight or unfit when they are taking home the pay packet they are. It's not hard to look after yourself without a coach looking over you all the time......

I said on Saturday to my mate when robbo retrieved a ball from near the corner flag , with his love handles and little bald patch that he resembled Neville Southhall .

Another rumour I heard was Berg had them in the gym one day last week doing fitness tests and was said to shocked at the poor levels of fitness . Like I say no idea if true,

[John]

Robbo always had the tendency to put on weight, but he is in awful state at the moment - you can clearly see the flab.

[Ossydave]

I think there's a big difference between being fit, and being really fit, especially in professional sport.

I realise that, but to have players that are physically flabby is unacceptable and they have to account for some of the blame! There is no 2 ways about it, a flabby goalkeeper is not as agile as he could be. Don't get me wrong I do like Robbo and he's not the only one.

[Bluefudge]

Robbo always had the tendency to put on weight, but he is in awful state at the moment - you can clearly see the flab.

Don't think the double vodka and coke help on a Tuesday afternoon in a York pub.

[Ossydave]

Don't think the double vodka and coke help on a Tuesday afternoon in a York pub.

Was it diet coke?

[Bluefudge]

Was it diet coke?

Allegedly not... could have even been Pepsi.

[Silencio]

Don't get me wrong I do like Robbo and he's not the only one.

Really? I can only remember Fettis being worse than him in the last 20 years. Not sure he's even good enough for us in this league, he definitely wasn't in the PL...

[Batman.]

Allegedly not... could have even been Pepsi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7Mo3YBKrRA