[Archived] Did the FA brush us under the carpet?

[philipl]

We might find some highly excessive agents' fees and wages which were not approved in advance amongst this summer's exotica.

[Salgado Is A Hero]

Aye it's not like the good old days when we never signed any players that didn't come off and only signed top liners like Bruno Berner, Maceo Rigters, Julio Santa Cruz, Van Heerden, Linganzi and Goulon!

And Basturk, he couldn't have been cheap.

It's part and parcel of the game....look at Bebe.

[Pedro]

Reported agents' fees for Rovers include:

• 2008/09 £1.6million
  
• 2009/10 £1.6million
  
• 2010/11 £4.2million
  

http://www.mirrorfoo...icle641525.html

http://www2.premierl...ees-2010-11.pdf

2010/11 is Venky's 1st year of ownership and I don't think many will be too surprised to see a 163% increase !

In fact, I was surprised at the reported £4.2m, expecting it to be a tad higher especially given the alleged scale of costs on the Rochina deal alone !

What is interesting is that our reported 2010/11 cost was broadly the same as Arsenal and Manchester United and given the increase over the two previous years, might suggest that we have become less economically efficient at doing deals.

Regardless of the proportion of of the cost in terms agent fee:transfer fee, do you not feel that £2million pounds for Rochina is good business?

Compare it to the Kalinic transfer £6.5m (possibly plus fees) or the countless other naff striker signings we've made over the years from Duncan Shearer to Nathan Blake...does it really matter how much is an agent fee so long as the actual cost of bringing the player to the club is proportionable to their impact or ability?

Personally.I think not.

...now, if a no-hoper like Myles Anderson on the other hand turns out to cost £2m overall that is a different story entirely.

[Rover-the-Top]

Anyone remember Matt Dickens (£250k), Stephen Ireland, Gudmundsson, Lee Makel - to name just a few that were bought in and never made the grade.

I'm pretty sure we've never signed Stephen Ireland. You'll be thinking of Simon Ireland...

[Andy]

I saw Jorge pre-season - thought he looked a tidy player and well worth a go. Rosado - played well in his cameo against Huddersfield before needlessly giving the ball away - comes with a good reputation. Edinho - looks to me out of his depth - Henrique - nobody has seen him play in blue and white yet.

Anyone remember Matt Dickens (£250k), Stephen Ireland, Gudmundsson, Lee Makel - to name just a few that were bought in and never made the grade.

I don't know what the obsession is with Portguese players - but Gomes has done ok so far - and Nunes, Jorge and Rosado look worth a gamble. How they develop - who knows - they may just fade away as Matt Dickens, Gudmundsson and Makel did.

You are right to a degree, but the difference between then and now is the quality and the quantity of the youngsters at the Academy.

Then, we barely had anything coming through the youth ranks, so it made sense to buy bit-part players, whereas now we have young lads who are at least equal with these players who have been brought in.

I know I personally would rather see Hugo Fernandez or Raheem Hanley in the squad than Henrique or Rosado.

[Athlete]

Rev do you work as a venkys PR........a fruit and veg market trader man wouldn't have mind such a mess of owning a football club...

[Black Burn]

Rev do you work as a venkys PR........a fruit and veg market trader man wouldn't have mind such a mess of owning a football club...

Just because his opinion differs from your does not make him a Venkys PR machine. Conversely, can I ask if you're SmelltheCoffee on the Lancashire Telegraph? Don't need to answer, I know you're not, but you see my point? Not a very nice thing to go around accusing people of being this or that just because they have something different from you to say.

[tomphil]

I'm pretty sure we've never signed Stephen Ireland. You'll be thinking of Simon Ireland...

Dalglish signed a lad called Stephen ? Ireland, a young winger poss from Huddersfield i think.

I saw Jorge pre-season - thought he looked a tidy player and well worth a go. Rosado - played well in his cameo against Huddersfield before needlessly giving the ball away - comes with a good reputation. Edinho - looks to me out of his depth - Henrique - nobody has seen him play in blue and white yet.

Anyone remember Matt Dickens (£250k), Stephen Ireland, Gudmundsson, Lee Makel - to name just a few that were bought in and never made the grade.

I don't know what the obsession is with Portguese players - but Gomes has done ok so far - and Nunes, Jorge and Rosado look worth a gamble. How they develop - who knows - they may just fade away as Matt Dickens, Gudmundsson and Makel did.

Used to watch that Makel in the reserves a bit. He was a decent player don't know why he fell away, was he the one who had acid or summat chucked in his face in a nightclub whilst at another club ?

[Rover-the-Top]

Dalglish signed a lad called Stephen ? Ireland, a young winger poss from Huddersfield i think.

As I said, that was SIMON Ireland...

[Athlete]

Just because his opinion differs from your does not make him a Venkys PR machine. Conversely, can I ask if you're SmelltheCoffee on the Lancashire Telegraph? Don't need to answer, I know you're not, but you see my point? Not a very nice thing to go around accusing people of being this or that just because they have something different from you to say.

Not accussing just asking a question as any fool in any walk of life wouldn't have made as many mistakes in 2 years as these brilliant business minded people...

[bob fleming]

As I said, that was SIMON Ireland...

Quite right. I think he might have broken his leg whilst at Rovers? It's a while back. He's involved with Rovers on the Academy side now.

[Athlete]

:tw I don't post on the LT....what you have to understand is the feeling of. 99% of fans since the takeover where nothing for the good of the club has happened

[Andy]

Dalglish signed a lad called Stephen ? Ireland, a young winger poss from Huddersfield i think.

Used to watch that Makel in the reserves a bit. He was a decent player don't know why he fell away, was he the one who had acid or summat chucked in his face in a nightclub whilst at another club ?

That was Chris Holland.

Started at PNE, then went to Newcastle and followed Steve Bruce wherever he went (Hudds/B'ham, etc).

Shame about the nightclub incident, he was the star of the U-21s briefly and looked destined for great things.

[tomphil]

That was Chris Holland.

Started at PNE, then went to Newcastle and followed Steve Bruce wherever he went (Hudds/B'ham, etc).

Shame about the nightclub incident, he was the star of the U-21s briefly and looked destined for great things.

Aye that's the one cheers.