ABBEY Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 great to see the owners there again................. oooops they wernt there again.Class act are they not.
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thenodrog Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 i fear it may take much longer to dis-assemble the squad and get the highly paid dross out, than it would to build a half decent team from scratch Where do you start Henley will probably be poached Rhodes may have suitors and then what are you left with, big big job for Berg Nobody will poach Henley if yesterdays performance is used to judge him. He had a shocker.
Plastics Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 Here we go again. lose one game and the world is ending. Indeed. Nobody will poach Henley if yesterdays performance is used to judge him. He had a shocker. Young lads aren't allowed to have bad games any more.
thenodrog Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 Getting out of this hell hole of a Division is going to be a lot harder than we all thought folks! Speak for yourself SG.
thenodrog Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 Fans need to wake up. You don't lose at home to the likes of Millwall and drop silly points at home and away like we have done and expect to get promoted. The writing is on the wall now: we will be in this division again next season and unless there is a big clearout of some of the underperformers and Berg turns out to be some sort of managerial genius we are likely to be staying down for some time. You weren't there so your opinion on Millwall is without value. Your only contribution as usual is simply as a WUM. Feeling gutted. Today we went from being reasonably assured of being in the play-off meltdown to being over-run by journeymen trundlers and promotion this season a distant dream. Another dismissing Millwall's qualities without foundation. It was actually Hanley with the 'cowardly' challenge. I think you are confusing our two centre backs because Dann was streets ahead of Hanley today. Hanley has just about found his level. However he was thought of as better than Phil Jones a coupkle of years back is a mystery.
thenodrog Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 I think palacios in January would be a good move , and is one which could happen ................ ...............The championship is littered with teams with hungry players , players who want that big move to the prem , whilst rovers have too many feeling sorry for themselves or players living on past career successes . Why spew dangerously inflated wages that we cannot afford on Palacios then? However.... I agree with your opinion about Millwall. Stereoptyping them on the past is as foolish as were the people who wrote off Swansea last year without seeing them play. the problem abd its been there sometime is that of midfield it can be bullied too easly, we need a ball winning midfeild player who can aslo play a bit too. we are too soft in this area We forced him out and sold him to Stoke. Manager carries the can. So you think we should sack him then? btw your opinions on Robinson were shown to be rubbish yesterday as most knowledgeable observers knew they would be.
Batman. Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 We forced him out and sold him to Stoke. Not having that. No way would I trust the Zonz at Barnsley on a cold Tuesday night in January.
thenodrog Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 Some of the contracts given out appear suspect. I wonder if Kean knew he was going and decided to shaft the club one more time by loading us up with deadweight? Doubt it. More based on the kick backs imo.
jim mk2 Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 You weren't there so your opinion on Millwall is without value. Your only contribution as usual is simply as a WUM. Heyup. Me stalker's back.
rossyrover Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 I went to Ewood yesterday full of hope that we had turned the corner but came away in despair at what was a totally inept performance from a disorganised rovers team against a well drilled championship side in Millwall a credit to their manager Kenny Jackett. Jorden Rhodes our main goal threat may as well stayed at home for all the service he received our so called playmakers Danny Murphy again caught out as to slow by physical opposition and the new rovers supporters favourite son Ruben Rochina I wish Berg would tell him he can pass and he does not have to beat half the opposition before he trys to release the ball. The defence is crying out for an experienced central defender as young Grant Hanley is just not up to it yet we also need a defensive midfielder who can tackle and two proper wingers who can beat full backs and deliver decent crosses.
philipl Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 Another dismissing Millwall's qualities without foundation. Not without foundation- I have watched them before this season. Millwall give the ball away far too easily if you put a bit of pressure on them as their passing is journeymen trundler level. They are nowhere near a Premier League outfit.
Parsonblue Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 Not without foundation- I have watched them before this season. Millwall give the ball away far too easily if you put a bit of pressure on them as their passing is journeymen trundler level. They are nowhere near a Premier League outfit. They might not be a Premier League outfit but they were far too good for us. Personally, I thought they looked a pretty decent side and their passing and movement looked good yesterday.
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 Not without foundation- I have watched them before this season. Millwall give the ball away far too easily if you put a bit of pressure on them as their passing is journeymen trundler level. They are nowhere near a Premier League outfit. Ah, that's were you went wrong Phillip, expecting us to press other teams. We're way too good for that.
Hekla Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 Is it me or did Hanley perform better in the Premiership than a league below so far?
Salgado Is A Hero Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 Playing next to Samba or Givet is different than next to Dann. He's also more unfit so he's not the same player who once matched Odemwingie for pace.
Plastic Head Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 Too many on here have a hugely over-inflated opinion of the current squad. Fatty Foulkes - his main asset was kicking, not used anymore. Henley - Young and raw, nothing special even allowing for his age Good twin - A decent player but should be left-mid not left back Hanley - below average in the championship Dann - How much? Formica - has skill but rarely hurts the opposition even at this lower level Murphy - have tried to find excuses for him in absentia but having witnessed him in person yesterday it's clear his career is over Etuhu - fourth division rubbish Bad twin - a truly awful footballer Rochina - brilliant and awful simultaniously Rhodes - clearly a poacher and needs the ball in the box but his contribution yesterday was zero. Must learn what is required of a centre forward Middle of the table is where this squad falls in the division and where it currently is. The team is still disorganised in all departments. Set pieces seem to have no plan whatsoever. It will take a good manager to get into the top 6. First thing to do is bring in 2 new central midfielders. King looked a good player btw.
Sparky Marky Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 What was the point of bringing Vukcevic on with five mins to go? Oh wait, he was tired from playing international footy mid-week. OH WAIT. Must be very tiring captaining your country. Oh wait.
Silencio Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 Another dismissing Millwall's qualities without foundation. Jackett's done a good job at Millwall but doesn't change the fact that if you lose 2-0 at home to them the sign is your not going up and your not much good.
Dunnfc Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 Time to give raheem a game. This is what supporting brfc is all about! We just.don't know!
Salgado Is A Hero Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 Is one game really enough though? Considering it's a 46 game season? From memory, the only teams recently to run away with the division in recent times are West Brom and Newcastle who were too good for this league. Cardiff, Boro and Palace will all go on bad runs.....the January transfer window might weaken them as well....particularly Palace. Boro lost 3-1 at home to Bristol City, who were on a terrible run, at the weekend....I doubt many of their fans are going into meltdown....rather acknowledging that some days in football it just doesn't work out for you.....especially in our case against teams previously unbeaten in 10 games. I was slightly baffled at the 4-0 etc predictions before the game.....the fact that they would have overtaken us with a win proved we're not light-years ahead of them.
RevidgeBlue Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 Saturday's game was a bit like being in a time warp and playing Wimbledon 25 years ago, they were big, rough, ugly, physical, extremely well drilled and aided by an overly lenient referee they did a pretty effective number on us. We didn't cope particularly well although I thought we were much the better side for the final 15 minutes of the first half and for much of the second until Hanley's calamitous mistake for the first goal.At that point I thought either we were going to nick it or it would be 0-0. However, you simply can't make mistakes like that and as someone else said above Hanley seemed to play a lot better in the second half of last season in a higher division than he has done this season. Givet needs to come into the side for Hanley or if there is an isue with Givet we probably need two new centre halves in January. Conversely I thought Dann played very well and is starting to show why he was allegedly so highly rated by so many clubs. The whole side was guilty of trying to play an impossible pass at times and not keeping it simple to keep moves going. Rochina was obviously the main culprit in that respect but for all his faults he's still the most likely person to produce a moment of magic to unlock the opposition defence even when having an off day, in much the same way as a top class striker can have a stinker but still nick a goal towards the end to save the day. Formica was dreadfully disappointing after some much improved displays recently, completely anonymous. You'd think Vukcevic deserves a chance to start on the right. Rhodes will surely never have a more ineffective day, early on every time he went up for the ball he got a shove in the back, a poke in the eye or a clout on the head and allowed himself to be muscled out of the game thereafter. Can't see King being much help to Rhodes, he looks like a striker stuck out on the wing who cuts in and tries to score himself every time he gets the ball. Would prefer to see Nunes out wide, whether King can play more centrally with Rhodes I've no idea. Overall we have to wise up if were playing physical opposition who try to muscle us out of it. Otherwise I didn't think it was anywhere near as bad as many people are suggesting, the way the game panned out the first goal was always going to be crucial. We were looking the likelier of the two teams to get it but unfortunately they got it courtesy of Hanley's unforced error. That seemed to give Millwall a second wind and after that there only looked one likely winner.
CapeTownRover Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 i dont get this, we look much better under Berg, with Keans players, yet Berg will be sacked if he doesnt get us promoted. It just shows how Kean was all up in the Venkys good books. In no way, should Berg be held accountable if we dont go up this season. Next season, when he starts selling and buying players, has a full pre season under his belt, then and only then should he answer if we are struggling.
yoda Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 i dont get this, we look much better under Berg, with Keans players, yet Berg will be sacked if he doesnt get us promoted. It just shows how Kean was all up in the Venkys good books. In no way, should Berg be held accountable if we dont go up this season. Next season, when he starts selling and buying players, has a full pre season under his belt, then and only then should he answer if we are struggling. Who has actually said that?
Speedie Dived Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 Who has actually said that? Shebby more or less said it in an interview, he goes if we don't go up. We aint going up......
yoda Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 Shebby more or less said it in an interview, he goes if we don't go up. We aint going up...... Shebby also said he was going to sack coco!
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