jim mk2 Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 As soon as we play a decent side, we lose. This team is not going to win promotion.
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Clitherover Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Playoff best we can hope for this season? I agree.
jim mk2 Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Changes need to be made for the next game now. Marcus Olsson adds nothing, and that has been apparent for games, and yet he continues to start. He had a fine game last week. But that was against a division three team.
BRFC1995 Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 As soon as we play a decent side, we lose. This team is not going to win promotion. i do agree there, the TEAM is wa*k.
Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 This season is a write off - just like the last time we went down. Regroup in summer, Berg should have his team embedded. Go for it next year. Only realistic option. Main achievement this season will be to avoid defeat by the Dingles.
BRFC1995 Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Bergs christmas list must have a goalie, 2 center halves, Right winger, 2 center mids, and a striker on it
JAL Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 2-0 game over Lets hope that some of 'our lot' begin to realise that this crop of players, all forty of them, are simply not good enough to get out of this division.
SamTheShrew Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 I was also saying to a friend that we might need to stay down to ultimately move forward. Otherwise we could just become a yo-yo again
philipl Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Have we lost yet? Is it FT? Venkyvision isn't working
JAL Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Lets hope that some of 'our lot' begin to realise that this crop of players, all forty of them, are simply not good enough to get out of this division.
moerpho Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Geez...you really revel in being miserable don't you, jim mk2? But you're right...we should've hired Freedman or McCarthy instead - just look at how immensly sucessful they have been at their new clubs. We've lost 2 games under Berg and both against teams on very good form - Palace and now Millwall. Hopefully they will learn from this game as it sounds like Millwall out-fought us today. Also - starting with the same 11 four games in a row is something he should reconsider when most of the squad is available for selection. As for the defence we desperatly need at least one central defender - preferably two - and hopefully we'll see Friedel back in january. We also need someone who is a commanding figure on the pitch something that we have lacked since Samba left. Still early days for Berg and this is such a tight league. Win against Bolton on wednesday and Bumley next weekend and it's all rosey again....except for jim off course.
Mercer Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 This season is a write off - just like the last time we went down. Regroup in summer, Berg should have his team embedded. Go for it next year. Only realistic option. Main achievement this season will be to avoid defeat by the Dingles. They are winning at Hull and now only 2 points behind ! May find we are below them after next Sunday.
jim mk2 Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 This is as bad as anything served up under Kean. Desperate performance and result.
RoverRich Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Why is it we always seem to blow it when other teams around us drop points?!?! Boro, Palace and Hull all lose today so we have chance to catch up but no, we go and lose as well. So infuriating!! Following the Twitter updates and Rhodes was barely mentioned! What happened there? Did we just not supply our prolific goalscorer?
Steve Moss Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 My thoughts (based on reading ESPN's and BBC's text commentary only): We had a ton of chances. 22 shots, 9 on target. About half of which came from Rochina. What I can't answer (not having seen the game) is whether he was creating real chances or was he just blazing away from poor positions and hoping for the best? Considering that Rhodes only got 1 shot off, I suspect that Rochina and Formica were playing at glory hounds as opposed to getting the ball to our finisher. Both of Millwall's goals came from the right channel into the top left hand side of the net. Is this Robbo's fault or the defender covering that zone? If so, who is it? Millwall had three yellows and 13 fouls, compared to 5 fouls from the Rovers. It reads as if we were being bullied. Who was giving it back to them? And with three yellows on Millwall which of our hard hitting defenders/midfielders [sarcasm] were pressuring Millwall, considering 2 of their defenders and 1 of their midfielders were on yellow? Anyway, an update/answers from anyone who actually saw the match would be appreciated.
BRFC1995 Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 i fear it may take much longer to dis-assemble the squad and get the highly paid dross out, than it would to build a half decent team from scratch Where do you start Henley will probably be poached Rhodes may have suitors and then what are you left with, big big job for Berg
RibbleValleyRover Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 This season is a write off - just like the last time we went down. Regroup in summer, Berg should have his team embedded. Go for it next year. Only realistic option. Main achievement this season will be to avoid defeat by the Dingles. Promotion was always going to be difficult at the first attempt. The problem is that Berg isn't going to get another season to build a side, if Rovers don't get promoted the first time of asking I think it's a certainty that he is going to get sacked. He has to start getting wins and quickly, it is so difficult to get out of this division via the playoffs.
martonrover Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 A dose of reality for many. Have long been of the opinion we're not that good and results against two of the better sides, Palace & Millwall, have confirmed that. Play offs would be an achievement.
moerpho Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 This is as bad as anything served up under Kean. Desperate performance and result. I take it you were at the game? According to LET: The result was harsh on Henning Berg's side who gave as good as they got in an even contest, particularly in a second half where they were the better team. Also worth mentioning that both Millwall goals were shots from outside the box - something Robinson seems to struggle with for some reason.
Bundesburn Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 i fear it may take much longer to dis-assemble the squad and get the highly paid dross out, than it would to build a half decent team from scratch Where do you start Henley will probably be poached Rhodes may have suitors and then what are you left with, big big job for Berg Can people stop harping on about losing Rhodes in Jan?! He can't play for another team this season, it's not going to happen. Thanks for being informed about the sport you follow. Reactionary and just plain keans.
Steve Moss Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 drop rochina pick simon I think I would do this. Markus Olsson seems good against bottom half teams but we need consistent quality. I think Simon can provide that. Two defeats and one win in 5 for Berg if it stays like this. When do we stop blaming the old manager and start pointing the finger at the new one ? Not anytime soon. He's clearly a good manager. Let's give him until the end of the season before we throw stones. How about it?
johnny price11 Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 URRRRGHHHHHHHHHH! So frustrating, our inability to string a few wins together is really annoying, hopefully sooner rather than later we can get some consistency. I haven't seen the goals (Listened to it on Rovers Player), but 2 goals from distance, was Robinson to blame at all? He's been prone to shots from outside the box in the past. UUUURRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH.
Mercer Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Geez...you really revel in being miserable don't you, jim mk2? But you're right...we should've hired Freedman or McCarthy instead - just look at how immensly sucessful they have been at their new clubs. We've lost 2 games under Berg and both against teams on very good form - Palace and now Millwall. Hopefully they will learn from this game as it sounds like Millwall out-fought us today. Also - starting with the same 11 four games in a row is something he should reconsider when most of the squad is available for selection. As for the defence we desperatly need at least one central defender - preferably two - and hopefully we'll see Friedel back in january. We also need someone who is a commanding figure on the pitch something that we have lacked since Samba left. Still early days for Berg and this is such a tight league. Win against Bolton on wednesday and Bumley next weekend and it's all rosey again....except for jim off course. Dyche: 9 points from 5 games Freedman: 7 points from 5 unbeaten games McCarthy: 7 points from 5 games Berg: 5 points from 5 games Hmmm.
Amo Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 URRRRGHHHHHHHHHH! So frustrating, our inability to string a few wins together is really annoying, hopefully sooner rather than later we can get some consistency. I haven't seen the goals (Listened to it on Rovers Player), but 2 goals from distance, was Robinson to blame at all? He's been prone to shots from outside the box in the past. UUUURRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH. Wouldn't surprise me. Never been one of this strengths, now he's carrying an extra 30lbs even more so. Robbo's an above-average shot stopper and can hoof for England. But that's about it. Yet some people still don't see why we want Friedel back?
martonrover Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Dyche: 9 points from 5 games Freedman: 7 points from 5 unbeaten games McCarthy: 7 points from 5 games Berg: 5 points from 5 games Hmmm. He needs to be given time but those are the cold, hard stats. Perhaps today's result will dampen some of the hysteria. Escaping this League will be tough.
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