[Archived] BRFC Action Group

[perthblue02]

Good comeback !

Question for you. You know I have the Trust logo underneath my avatar, how come there isn't a BRAG logo thingy for members ?

I think Glenn P contacted all the various groups about logo's and if they wanted them available for people to display, new ones are being created soon but not seen a list of ones to do yet.

[bob fleming]

I was contacted personally and asked if I or we wanted one. I declined as first and foremost I'am a Rovers Fan. I have it as my avatar as I do on all football websites, which is enough for me. One was offered but then members would maybe feel obliged to add theirs and I feel their is enough fan divide at the minute. Just look at the criticism Glen, Mark or myself come in for on here, I wouldn't wish that on any group member.

I was confident you would have been asked.

[blueboy3333]

I was contacted personally and asked if I or we wanted one. I declined as first and foremost I'am a Rovers Fan. I have it as my avatar as I do on all football websites, which is enough for me. One was offered but then members would maybe feel obliged to add theirs and I feel their is enough fan divide at the minute. Just look at the criticism Glen, Mark or myself come in for on here, I wouldn't wish that on any group member.

no other group has such an obvious pro-shebby agenda. maybe should should change your group's name to SHAG.

[47er]

no other group has such an obvious pro-shebby agenda. maybe should should change your group's name to SHAG.

and you could change your name to Anti-Shag!

[SouthAussieRover]

Same old suspects, same old arguments, over and over and over. If I were Glen etc I would not bother replying or even posting on here at all.

God, you guys would be lost! How would you cope?

TBH you're not much better.

[SAS]

not sure of the exact number off the top of my head but around 8000, I along with others spent all day preparing and sorting the membership packs for )

I find that extremely impressive...

More so as I personally don't know one member.

[Just that Rover]

First of all welcome to the message board to another new member, clearly a passionate fan judging your posts. However I find it strange that you centre around an individual rather than a group, that is your prerogative but it will appear to some that you have created an account with a specific agenda.

All organised protests where before or after matches, not during. I'm sure there was spontaneous fan reaction during games as indeed their seems to be this season. I can assure you there was no Anti Rovers Spiel as you call it, plenty of anti Kean yes but not anti Rovers.

Your normal fans statement confuses me? are the fans who are singing against Venkys Singh et al now classed as normal in your eyes?

If you dislike the group I have two suggestions

1. Ignore them, don't sign up to a website and immediately look for a thread about them as, it does make it look like an agenda is being played out.

2. If you must criticise a group, then do so, don't turn it into a personal agenda against an individual as again the word agenda springs to mind and you then lose credibility.

First off, post count doesn't mean a thing to me, every word debated about Rovers can potentially be productive right?

Normal fans are the ones that actually stay in their seat they paid for and generally behave themselves.

There was protesting at that game, if you want to class congregating in a group at the front chanting anti-rovers all in T-Shirts that were made specifically for protesting as 'spontaneous fan reaction' then why was it only followers of the action group that were doing it?

As for agenda. I suppose standing against behavior which has blatantly not helped the club and was called off the second 'fame' turned up you could call an agenda. Mr Mullan is the spokesperson for the group so I've addressed him, there were lots of members of the action group acting as unruly as Mr Mullan when Swansea scored but they are not public figures like Mr Mullan so again it's the leader that is spoken to.

There was a lad who was interviewed by sky the other day who I think is a member of the action group. Can't remember his name (he's quite tall) but he seemed to speak from the heart and made sense without any aggression. Maybe after Glen leaves the group to host his own talk show with Shebby he can take over?

[Ricky]

8000 is a huge number. I'm just amazed that I only know you three.

Think it was Mark who spoke on SSN. I also applauded him on the way he came accross.

[Tom]

I find that extremely impressive...

More so as I personally don't know one member.

A lot probably signed up at the height of protests etc and then faded into the background a bit

The website and Facebook page is relatively quiet for that amount of members as you'd think a fair percentage would be online, maybe people have just given up on the whole club

Was there a minimum age for membership?

[BlueMonday]

Venkys and their stooges need only to read this thread and think, "Job done".

Very sad.

[glen9mullan]

Mr Mullan, how can you blatantly lie so much and sleep at night. Everybody in the Blackburn End saw the swarm of the usual BRAG faces led by yourself engulf the front row with complete rage kitted out in your god awful lime green protest shirt, against Swansea last season, when they equalised. There was at least 40 of you going mental chanting allsorts of anti Rovers spiel. The same group that was previously outside the stadium kitted out with Kean out banners and 100% Rovers (allegedly) signs was now in the stadium behaving in a much more vile mannor including yourself Glen, yourself who now claims you're against protests at matches 100% and would not take part.

There was no other 'normal' fans joining in with the rest of the loutish behaviour. So it was just the protest group making all the fuss. Looked to me like a protest inside the stadium... By yourselves.

At the time I did feel for your passion and had a slight admiration for your unity but that was short lived. There was one fan at the back of the lower tier who had (for what I guess anyway) spotted Diseny's Chinese Legend - Mulan. They were disrupted by this and responded with a repetitive and humorous 'MULAN OUT' chant... Well that was it, when your ears caught a sound of it you span around both fists in the air shouting 'COME ON THEN, COME DOWN HERE AND SAY THAT'. The shocked fan looked on in bemusement and slight amusement as you huffed and puffed.

Well that's when I saw the real leader of BRAG and the one who is supposedly the voice of the fans.

I can tell you Mr Mullan that you do not speak for me and I hope there is plenty of other Rovers fans who don't want to be represented by someone who lies and acts like a thug.

If you want to be leader of anything by choice or not then you must behave responsively and stoic. Mr Mullan you have not got close to any of them fine qualities and I for one think it's time you went away and take your lies with you.

I like this post, Reason? I left this match just after half time, Reason? I was discusted with the reaction to Yakubu's goal from the supporters. In fact it was the first time I had ever left a match before full time.

This particular match protest were discussed at length by those involved in organising them. I actually wanted us to have some sort of feel good event that day, but others within the organising party did not. So in the end we opted for no protest at all

If you are going to make stories up, you are going to have to try harder. My memory is very good and my conduct at games last season had to be without incident, as all my actions and movements were closely monitored by the Police and those who would have had any supporter who was part of the protest banned if they could have.

Another poster with just a couple of post, seems to be a getting quite regurlar this.

Quite interesting you also refer to me as Mr Mullan, I know of only 3 people that refer to me in that manner!!!

[forumquizmaster]

I actually wanted us to have some sort of feel god event that day, but others within the organising party did not.

Thanks for this, it has brightened up an otherwise horrible 'back to work' day. I know that Rovers is a religion but I do think you're taking it a bit far here Glen.

[glen9mullan]

Good comeback !

Question for you. You know I have the Trust logo underneath my avatar, how come there isn't a BRAG logo thingy for members ?

Im glad you asked that question.

We was contacted few weeks ago asking if we wanted one, I was ok with idea, but when discussed by the committee they felt it was not the brightest of idea's and would cause more divide in a supporter base which is far too divided.

There is a lot of members on here who are Action Group members. A lot of members on here who travel with the Action Group, however when one group gets rounded upon everytime they post then I too would probably remain quiet.

[philipl]

As someone who has spoken with us many times Philip and has met us in person and seen how we address things, you more than most know we do not play nicely nicely

Excellent.

Taylor on toast?

[mhead]

BRAG website is not busy enough for 8000 members.

BRFCS Mods - can we have some comparisons please?

-how many members is BRFCS supposed to have

-how many are currently active on the Board(say 1 post per month or whatever rule you can calculate)

-how many were active when we were a real,well-run Club eg Hughesy and Hughesy days

Thanks if you can oblige. Action Groups by definition should be full of 'actions' not self-perpetuation.

[glen9mullan]

Wow that's pretty impressive but I'd be interested to know what their views on Singh are.

Perhaps contact Brad Glatz who is currently in the UK from Australia. He has had a couple of meetings with the club whilst he has been here and is the head of the Australian Branch.

[Tom]

BRAG website is not busy enough for 8000 members.

BRFCS Mods - can we have some comparisons please?

-how many members is BRFCS supposed to have

-how many are currently active on the Board(say 1 post per month or whatever rule you can calculate)

-how many were active when we were a real,well-run Club eg Hughesy and Hughesy days

Thanks if you can oblige. Action Groups by definition should be full of 'actions' not self-perpetuation.

I don't have any stats although the admin may

Looking at the members page, counting the amount of people on a page multiplied by the number of pages there should be about 7000 members but that may be using incorrect methods

As for how many active posters I have no idea

[glen9mullan]

BRAG website is not busy enough for 8000 members.

BRFCS Mods - can we have some comparisons please?

-how many members is BRFCS supposed to have

-how many are currently active on the Board(say 1 post per month or whatever rule you can calculate)

-how many were active when we were a real,well-run Club eg Hughesy and Hughesy days

Thanks if you can oblige. Action Groups by definition should be full of 'actions' not self-perpetuation.

Our website is simply for infomation purposes only. It has a forum section , but is never used.

Whilst I wont give a figure as Andy or Mark are probably best to answer this, but i'm pretty certain a vast number of our groups membership have signed up in person, rather than online.

We have no reason to lie about the groups membership, you could perhaps contact Envelope works who has provided the groups envelopes for the membershop packs, whilst also sorting the groups membership cards. We got these from their supplier but I have no issue in them telling you how many we ordered.

You could also perhaps also ask those who have supplied inserts for the membership packs too?

I think we would be pretty stupid to order THOUSANDS Of membership packs at great cost if we had 50 members or a few hundred , dont you?

Better still pop into the walk in centre this morning, in fact I will ask Fernhurst Rover to as he is based in the Darwen end. he can see with his own eyes that we cannot move for all the membership packs we are currently in the process of dispatching

[Tom]

BRAG website is not busy enough for 8000 members.

BRFCS Mods - can we have some comparisons please?

-how many members is BRFCS supposed to have

-how many are currently active on the Board(say 1 post per month or whatever rule you can calculate)

-how many were active when we were a real,well-run Club eg Hughesy and Hughesy days

Thanks if you can oblige. Action Groups by definition should be full of 'actions' not self-perpetuation.

As per your second point looking at the manager thread that was just locked and opened last week, around 200 or so unique posters contributed to that thread I think (click on the number of posts in the thread and it lists them - I lost count so I'm guessing)

And around 100 or so for a normal match thread and the last 3 polls have had 109, 148 and 150 voters so its safe to say our regular contributors is a minimum of over 100 up to beyond 200 at least

[AggyBlue]

Same old suspects, same old arguments, over and over and over. If I were Glen etc I would not bother replying or even posting on here at all.

God, you guys would be lost! How would you cope?

Makes me laugh. There's more anti BRAG posts than anti Singh/Venky's on this message board.

I've come to the conclusion that if you're anti BRAG you must be pro Venky's.

[Just that Rover]

I like this post, Reason? I left this match just after half time, Reason? I was discusted with the reaction to Yakubu's goal from the supporters. In fact it was the first time I had ever left a match before full time.

This particular match protest were discussed at length by those involved in organising them. I actually wanted us to have some sort of feel good event that day, but others within the organising party did not. So in the end we opted for no protest at all

If you are going to make stories up, you are going to have to try harder. My memory is very good and my conduct at games last season had to be without incident, as all my actions and movements were closely monitored by the Police and those who would have had any supporter who was part of the protest banned if they could have.

Another poster with just a couple of post, seems to be a getting quite regurlar this.

Quite interesting you also refer to me as Mr Mullan, I know of only 3 people that refer to me in that manner!!!

Well you can make that 4. I actually wondered where you all had gone, whether this contributed to the improved atmosphere in the second half I don't know. You missed a Yak-Trick so fool you. I don't find it surprising that people are signing up to this forum just to give you a piece of their mind. It is warrented.

If you choose to deny your actions and the way you've influenced people to disrupt games then that's up to you. I've said what I wanted to say to you. People can make up there own minds and by the look of things, outside your group, they already have.

The sad thing is you probably don't really want all this attention. I reiterate. You don't speak for me as a Rovers fan please stop it. It's time you went away from this pedistal you've climbed onto and just be a fan of the club. Can you remember what that feels like?

[yoda]

Well you can make that 4. I actually wondered where you all had gone, whether this contributed to the improved atmosphere in the second half I don't know. You missed a Yak-Trick so fool you. I don't find it surprising that people are signing up to this forum just to give you a piece of their mind. It is warrented.

If you choose to deny your actions and the way you've influenced people to disrupt games then that's up to you. I've said what I wanted to say to you. People can make up there own minds and by the look of things, outside your group, they already have.

The sad thing is you probably don't really want all this attention. I reiterate. You don't speak for me as a Rovers fan please stop it. It's time you went away from this pedistal you've climbed onto and just be a fan of the club. Can you remember what that feels like?

While you are here, would you like to comment on the latest decision not to appoint a manager before the end of January?

[pk1875]

Do you have a geographical breakdown of membership base?

Also, season ticket holders or non? They would be interesting.

To be honest I wouldnt have a clue as to how many are season ticket holders or not, as for geographics, I spent a lot of time yesterday preparing membership packs for postage, to break the monotomy we where looking at the varity of locations of the address labels and they from Sussex to Sydney, Pleetwood to the Faroe Islands, Blackburn to Brazil and so on.

BRAG website is not busy enough for 8000 members.

BRFCS Mods - can we have some comparisons please?

-how many members is BRFCS supposed to have

-how many are currently active on the Board(say 1 post per month or whatever rule you can calculate)

-how many were active when we were a real,well-run Club eg Hughesy and Hughesy days

Thanks if you can oblige. Action Groups by definition should be full of 'actions' not self-perpetuation.

As Glen pointed out why would we waste good money ordering thousands of Envelopes, Membership Packs, Cards and leaflets if we didn't need them?

[Amo]

Makes me laugh. There's more anti BRAG posts than anti Singh/Venky's on this message board.

I've come to the conclusion that if you're anti BRAG you must be pro Venky's.

Your logic is astounding.

[AggyBlue]

While you are here, would you like to comment on the latest decision not to appoint a manager before the end of January?

I'd be happy with a comment on any other subject. Seems Blackburn Rovers aren't on his agenda.

Your logic is astounding.

If you're anti Brag who are anti Venky's, you must be pro Venky's.

Straight forward logic but beyond your comprehension?