[Archived] BRFC Action Group

[Tom]

I'd be happy with a comment on any other subject. Seems Blackburn Rovers aren't on his agenda.

If you're anti Brag who are anti Venky's, you must be pro Venky's.

Straight forward logic but beyond your comprehension?

Are brag anti venkys?

[Stuart]

Glen, are relations between the Action Group and Singh strained at the moment?

[ChrisyG]

Well you can make that 4. I actually wondered where you all had gone, whether this contributed to the improved atmosphere in the second half I don't know. You missed a Yak-Trick so fool you. I don't find it surprising that people are signing up to this forum just to give you a piece of their mind. It is warrented.

If you choose to deny your actions and the way you've influenced people to disrupt games then that's up to you. I've said what I wanted to say to you. People can make up there own minds and by the look of things, outside your group, they already have.

The sad thing is you probably don't really want all this attention. I reiterate. You don't speak for me as a Rovers fan please stop it. It's time you went away from this pedistal you've climbed onto and just be a fan of the club. Can you remember what that feels like?

Well give it a rest then.

[Amo]

If you're anti Brag who are anti Venky's, you must be pro Venky's.

Straight forward logic but beyond your comprehension?

BRAG are anti-Venky's? Not according to Glen.

[AggyBlue]

Are brag anti venkys?

Hated with a passion.

How come you need to ask? Are you as confused as Shebby?

[Tom]

Hated with a passion.

How come you need to ask? Are you as confused as Shebby?

Well I must be if that is still the case

[Just that Rover]

While you are here, would you like to comment on the latest decision not to appoint a manager before the end of January?

Sure. Even though this isn't the correct topic. The two have worked together for a while now and have seemingly got the team playing better.

The problem with it really is that the 2 games they've won have been against bottom of the league Barnsley and a team that out of the blue sacked there manager and replaced him with AM.

It could be again naive or it could be inspired.

I for one am pleased they are getting a chance. Could be the new Clough/Taylor.

[yoda]

Sure. Even though this isn't the correct topic. The two have worked together for a while now and have seemingly got the team playing better.

The problem with it really is that the 2 games they've won have been against bottom of the league Barnsley and a team that out of the blue sacked there manager and replaced him with AM.

It could be again naive or it could be inspired.

I for one am pleased they are getting a chance. Could be the new Clough/Taylor.

You did not read the question then, (While you are here, would you like to comment on the latest decision not to appoint a manager before the end of January?)

are you linked to the shadow by any chance?

[Just that Rover]

You did not read the question then, (While you are here, would you like to comment on the latest decision not to appoint a manager before the end of January?)

are you linked to the shadow by any chance?

I haven't got a clue what you mean by that shadow comment but whatever.

Without purely speculating. There wasn't one single outstanding name linked with the job so I'm not fussed we haven't got a manager in yet. Better to not rush an appointement with a risky choice if you've got two capable guys who know the team and have earned a shot at the job.

With speculation. We could have someone lined up for the end of January. Hasn't Solskjaers season in Norway just finished? Could be waiting for his contract to run out? Maybe someone else is free at that time we are waiting for.

At the moment I'm more relieved at what we didn't get rather than annoyed at having to wait.

[Ricky]

Just as an aside, I know there are new members posting on this forum, we have been keeping an eye on IP addresses as we always do and nothing odd has cropped up.

Just wanted to be clear as it appeared some may be indicating that there were duplicate accounts.

[matty1875]

The problem with the Action Group is that they are losing credibility by making silly statements such as:

8000 members (I don't know anyone who is member and that would mean 20% of our worldwide supporter base is an Action Group member which seem so high, 800 would be high enough)

At they start they are against Venky's and the board, now they seem have done a U turn and have started to lie that they made any such statements (or distanced themselves from the statement saying it was someone else).

Well answer me a question did you have state that you "will call for the removal of manager Steve Kean, the board of directors and for Venkys to sell the club"??

I know to stop you denying it, I will point you to this press release on your own website:

http://www.brfcactiongroup.co.uk/press-release-20th-april-2012/

So what has changed guys? Why do you not want to Directors to go? Why do you not want Venkys to sell? As you say the press release " the board of directors at Blackburn Rovers and the owners; Venkateshwara Hatcheries, are all incompetent in THE single most important task they have, running a football club efficiently and properly"

Has this changed and they now know how to run a football club? In fact no they have got worse, employed possibly the craziest human on the planet to run the club, sacked a whole backroom staff, still not got a sponsor, can't get corporate sponsors etc.

However now you don't seem to want the Venky's go or the board of Directors. That is why people think you are just an insignificant group and why you may get some abuse because you have totally changed your point of view because now you have links to the club, speak to Shebby, have a walk in centre More than ever before fans want Venky's to go, they are clowns and you have joined them in the circus.

[Silittl]

Given the fact my name has been mentioned in a previous post I though it only correct that place version of events on record.

Yes I did release that statement based several false promises from the previous Deputy CEO and board members. I felt that it was required to ensure the general public knew exactly what we are dealing with. Do I regret it no! However I will place on record i did issue an apology to the person named in the statement at the time. Would I do it again under the same circumstances Yes I would. Though this time without naming individuals.

However as many of you will know others won't I am no longer part of BRAG. Why because it was impacting to much on my personal life and secondly I didnt agree with direction the group was heading in.

Finally yes I was and still am anti venkys as i feel they are responsible for dismantling the club I have followed since I was 4 year old. However when I look back on everything there are things I regret, there are things I would do again all be it differently and a little more reserved. I got dragged into issues I would never have done normally because of in fighting between fans. Which is something I regret with a passion and will apologise again to all those I upset!

I must point out that I will never get involved in the blame game or name individuals. I did what i did at the time and will take any grief for my actions constructively. I did what i did as part of the movement at the time. I have learnt and hopefully become a better person for mistakes I made.

There is one thing for sure I now go to games to support the team and enjoy the father and son time like I used before Venkys came along. I have an opinion and I will express it as when I feel the need. There is one thing for sure I will not take part in anymore protests.

[T.J.Newton]

Ive had a few digs at brag over the last 12months or so(mostly just to play devils advocate a little), but even i cant defend the amount of personal abuse they have been getting in the last few days, it just doesn't help anybody and only causes more unrest.

I believe most of the negativity has come of the back of Singhs absurd radio interviews in the last week, Why does he even do these type of interviews? if its just to briefly let the fans know what's happening then surely it would be safest just to do a brief interview in the LT than go on live radio where they're obviously going to put him on the spot and force him to answer questions that he's not prepared for and shouldn't really be talking about in public. Now the problem is fans in general have no why too directly contact Singh so all the anger raised because of these interviews just gets vented at GM/Brag as they are really the only ones that have direct access to Shebby.

[Glenn]

I think Glenn P contacted all the various groups about logo's and if they wanted them available for people to display, new ones are being created soon but not seen a list of ones to do yet.

You haven't? Bugger. I screwed up there then. I just thought you were busy doing T-Shirts and real life and stuff :s

[pk1875]

The problem with the Action Group is that they are losing credibility by making silly statements such as:

8000 members (I don't know anyone who is member and that would mean 20% of our worldwide supporter base is an Action Group member which seem so high, 800 would be high enough)

At they start they are against Venky's and the board, now they seem have done a U turn and have started to lie that they made any such statements (or distanced themselves from the statement saying it was someone else).

Well answer me a question did you have state that you "will call for the removal of manager Steve Kean, the board of directors and for Venkys to sell the club"??

I know to stop you denying it, I will point you to this press release on your own website:

http://www.brfcactiongroup.co.uk/press-release-20th-april-2012/

So what has changed guys? Why do you not want to Directors to go? Why do you not want Venkys to sell? As you say the press release " the board of directors at Blackburn Rovers and the owners; Venkateshwara Hatcheries, are all incompetent in THE single most important task they have, running a football club efficiently and properly"

Has this changed and they now know how to run a football club? In fact no they have got worse, employed possibly the craziest human on the planet to run the club, sacked a whole backroom staff, still not got a sponsor, can't get corporate sponsors etc.

However now you don't seem to want the Venky's go or the board of Directors. That is why people think you are just an insignificant group and why you may get some abuse because you have totally changed your point of view because now you have links to the club, speak to Shebby, have a walk in centre More than ever before fans want Venky's to go, they are clowns and you have joined them in the circus.

There is indeed 8000 members and you probably know some, I'm sure you don't ask people in town or at games can I see your Action Group Membership Card.

Yes The board of Directors needs a complete overhaul

Yes we want Directors to go

Yes I would love new wealthy owners to buy us (but there is no buyers and Venkys don't want to sell)

Yes we speak to the club as we campaigned for months to open dialogue with the club

Yes we rent an office / walk in centre from the Community Trust

[SouthAussieRover]

As per your second point looking at the manager thread that was just locked and opened last week, around 200 or so unique posters contributed to that thread I think (click on the number of posts in the thread and it lists them - I lost count so I'm guessing)

And around 100 or so for a normal match thread and the last 3 polls have had 109, 148 and 150 voters so its safe to say our regular contributors is a minimum of over 100 up to beyond 200 at least

372 have voted on the manager poll.

[Ewoodbhappy]

not sure of the exact number off the top of my head but around 8000, I along with others spent all day preparing and sorting the membership packs for despatch yesterday.

given its on my signature Id wager they probably all do

I think I am a member of BRAG! I say think, because I seem to remember submitting my details to access the site for information.

I wonder if there are many more who did the same and are now "members".

I joined in the protest's against Kean. Got the t-shirt 100% Rovers 0% Kean, 0%Venkys. That still resinates!

I will say that the protests achieved something - the removal of the man who should never have been given the job in the first place.

But the people (badly advised or not) who made that decision and CONTINUE TO MAKE A COMPLETE FARCE of BRFC are still in power.

They have appointed the most stupid, inept unqualified person to be a "Global Advisor" ( wtf ), the administartion of the club HAS GOT WORSE and is a complete laughing stock in the national media.

I attended the open forum and formed an opinion that day - Shebby Singh should NOT be running the club.

As for Agnew & Shaw - niether of them are fit for purpose.

I can't bring myself to endorse the current stratedgy of BRAG, accepting that communication with Shebby is a good thing. The only thing he communicates clearly is - HE SHOULD NOT BE TASKED WITH ANY POSITION OF RESPONSABILITY at BRFC.

If BRAG decided as a group they would campaign for the installation of a fit and proper board of directors, I would be more than happy to support that. As for now I think I maybe classed as a dormant member.

[Salgado Is A Hero]

I think I am a member of BRAG! I say think, because I seem to remember submitting my details to access the site for information.

I wonder if there are many more who did the same and are now "members".

On top of that, wasn't there a competition to win a signed Jordan Rhodes shirt if yo signed up as well?

[pk1875]

If you filled in The FREE MEMBERSHIP APPLICATION FORM then Id say you will be a member if you simply accessed the web site, facebook group or followed on Twitter then no you wont be a member.

You only become a member by filling in a membership form.

On top of that, wasn't there a competition to win a signed Jordan Rhodes shirt if yo signed up as well?

We do a monthly draw that all members and new members are entered into.

[Stuart]

On top of that, wasn't there a competition to win a signed Jordan Rhodes shirt if yo signed up as well?

Come to think of it, whatever happened to the design a shirt competition that Wayne Hemmingway was signed up for?

[glen9mullan]

I think I am a member of BRAG! I say think, because I seem to remember submitting my details to access the site for information.

I wonder if there are many more who did the same and are now "members".

I joined in the protest's against Kean. Got the t-shirt 100% Rovers 0% Kean, 0%Venkys. That still resinates!

I will say that the protests achieved something - the removal of the man who should never have been given the job in the first place.

But the people (badly advised or not) who made that decision and CONTINUE TO MAKE A COMPLETE FARCE of BRFC are still in power.

They have appointed the most stupid, inept unqualified person to be a "Global Advisor" ( wtf ), the administartion of the club HAS GOT WORSE and is a complete laughing stock in the national media.

I attended the open forum and formed an opinion that day - Shebby Singh should NOT be running the club.

As for Agnew & Shaw - niether of them are fit for purpose.

I can't bring myself to endorse the current stratedgy of BRAG, accepting that communication with Shebby is a good thing. The only thing he communicates clearly is - HE SHOULD NOT BE TASKED WITH ANY POSITION OF RESPONSABILITY at BRFC.

If BRAG decided as a group they would campaign for the installation of a fit and proper board of directors, I would be more than happy to support that. As for now I think I maybe classed as a dormant member.

If you have joined the website this does not make you a member. If you have filled in a membership form this makes you a member.

Regarding a fit and proper board of directors, that is what we have been pushing for since the group started and are still pushing for, and are getting closer and closer to that becoming a reality IMO, in the sense that I think some will not be their much longer.

How they are replaced should the owners decide their time us up, is what worries me.

Agnew , Shaw and Silk are our current board of directors. They are not good enough IMO and the groups stance is similar to mine on this.

By communicating issues, (Which is needed) then the feelings of the membership base gets put across undiluted and straight to the point.

To break off that communication would have us hoping they come to their senses, rather than keeping the pressure on for those decisions to be made

Come to think of it, whatever happened to the design a shirt competition that Wayne Hemmingway was signed up for?

That was not an action group competition, that was a shirt designed by supporters. We have the designs currently at a supplier, but with the massive cost involved in producing it, we have yet to take the plunge.

[Ewoodbhappy]

If you filled in The FREE MEMBERSHIP APPLICATION FORM then Id say you will be a member if you simply accessed the web site, facebook group or followed on Twitter then no you wont be a member.

You only become a member by filling in a membership form.

We do a monthly draw that all members and new members are entered into.

Yep I filled in online form.

Im not going to knock you. Far too much of that gone on.

I agreed with the initial actions - but think its gone abit pear shaped now. ( my own opinion )

You have to admit - even if he's under pressure - Shebby is way out of his depth.

[Stuart]

Glen, I asked earlier if the relationship between BRFCAG and Singh is strained. Has he spoken to the group since his last couple of faux pas interviews?

[glen9mullan]

Yep I filled in online form.

Im not going to knock you. Far too much of that gone on.

I agreed with the initial actions - but think its gone abit pear shaped now. ( my own opinion )

You have to admit - even if he's under pressure - Shebby is way out of his depth.

We are certainly not disuputing that RE Shebby,

We have a plan of action and are following it through as planned, what appears on the outside as one thing, does not mean thats the way it is!

Glen, I asked earlier if the relationship between BRFCAG and Singh is strained. Has he spoken to the group since his last couple of faux pas interviews?

If you mean a supporter group/club relations, like any other group has. No this relationship is not strained.

We have indeed made it clear in the last few hours that these TV/Radio appearances are doing more harm than good. Whilst putting across various other concerns which have cropped up over the last 7 days

[Tom]

Do you still speak to Shebby daily Glen?