[Archived] BRFC Action Group

[greco]

we all know the 4 or 5 rejects, who have nothing else to do, but sit around all day, hoping for a boner, while contemplating being columbo.

It´s a bit like politics, we all want the best for our nation(club), but we all have a different idea of how to better our nation(club). Some vote for a political party(supporters group), who share their views and hope that their groups path is the best. What we have is a bunch of social rejects and wannabe columbo´s, who disagrees with a certain political party(supporter group), a political party(supporters group) they arent a member of and dont share views with. They attack this group(the opposition) from all angles, just like in politics, surprise surprise. It´s like getting a nazi and a leftwing´er to agree on immigration.

Now this isnt politics, so glen and all the other brag comittee members have an option and that is to stop posting brag related things on this mb. Simply put, stop giving the social rejects, the columbo´s and the trolls any ammunition. Let them whine and dont answer them, you cant win anyway, as these mental midgets arent in it to debate, they are in it, because they want to be right. You´ll never change their opinion, so why bother.?

[Gav]

A handful of people? Get real son... More like thousands! Do you not realise fans are fed up of these idiots representing BRFC!.proffesional people should be left to represent the club not idiots who are nothing but a bunch of amateurs!

First of all I'm not your son, and second it does seem like you're suffering from 'stolen my limelight syndrome' with post after post saying nothing new but slamming them for trying to make a difference. I'm not a member, they don't do things the way I'd like but they're trying to make a difference and that's to be applauded in my eyes.

You're right on one thing, we should have professional people representing the fans, sadly those days are long gone, but it could be worse, we could have Ewood blues running the show....

I think Drog & Jim have given GAV a bit of a persecution complex, tbh.

So, in other words, GAV, you don't think an organisation which supposedly represents the fans should account for itself when people have legitimate questions regarding their policies and strategy? If they can't answer those questions with any credibility, then they shouldn't be in business. Ironic that you should espouse the notion that a group obsessed with opening dialogue with the club shouldn't reciprocate that with the fans.

It's ok sat in your bedroom hammering them Topman, what have you done to try and make a difference?

Banned yourself from BRFCS.....

[pk1875]

Can't believe some of the nit picking on here.

All I want to say is keep up the good work BRFCAG. No-one works harder for a better run football club.

Thanks Ben we continue to push on for the good of the club, and will continue to do so for many years to come.

PK..the real reason why your coach chooses to drink in a'selected' pub is because your a very unpopular bunch of protestors who attract trouble at away games!! Get real pal!

PK 1875...the real reason why your coach chooses to drink in a'selected' pub is because your a very unpopular bunch of protestors who attract trouble at away games!! Get real pal!

Firstly we are clearly unpopular with you, but you only speak for yourself, unless of course you claim to speak for Rovers fans in general. As for trouble, we witness no more trouble than any other away travel. Of course you will always get the occasional idiot who wants to cause trouble.

If it wasn't for the protests that lying rat would still be at the club, you should be thankful.

We ask for no thanks everything we do is for the common good of our club

[Happyforeverclapper]

Represent the club?? Feel free to elaborate......

Where do i 'choose' not to drink?

One happy family? You have room to talk, you assaulted a supporter at an away match last season, Gesticulated to supporters at an away game this year whilst sat on your coach and you followed myself out of a pub at an away game this year to verbally abuse me with your foul mouthed tirade, so i am sorry but one happy family we are not, when people behave as disgracefully as you do.

could you please tell this message board why you became aggressive towards me in the aqueduct pub after the wolves home game last season and had to be restrained?.i have witnesses to prove this so feel free to report me or take legal action!.Can you please also tell this message board why you WAS arrested and cautioned by police after last seasons homegame against Liverpool ?.Please tell the truth and remember lofty I can PROVE these events did take place!.I was verbally abused by the person I allegedly assaulted despite my requests to him to stay away from me!.The person in question came 'looking for me'! I have witnesses to this including the police!.Finally since when did gesticulating at people become a criminal offence(something you did towards Steve kean and the owners on a regular basis last season!.Your actions lofty do not fit your position as a pillock, sorry pilar of society whilst representing BRFC in the Houses of Parliament so I expect you to do the honourable thing and resign from your post immediately !!

[Happyforeverclapper]

First of all I'm not your son, and second it does seem like you're suffering from 'stolen my limelight syndrome' with post after post saying nothing new but slamming them for trying to make a difference. I'm not a member, they don't do things the way I'd like but they're trying to make a difference and that's to be applauded in my eyes.

You're right on one thing, we should have professional people representing the fans, sadly those days are long gone, but it could be worse, we could have Ewood blues running the show....

It's ok sat in your bedroom hammering them Topman, what have you done to try and make a difference?

Banned yourself from BRFCS.....

[mark1875]

could you please tell this message board why you became aggressive towards me in the aqueduct pub after the wolves home game last season and had to be restrained?.i have witnesses to prove this so feel free to report me or take legal action!.Can you please also tell this message board why you WAS arrested and cautioned by police after last seasons homegame against Liverpool ?.Please tell the truth and remember lofty I can PROVE these events did take place!.I was verbally abused by the person I allegedly assaulted despite my requests to him to stay away from me!.The person in question came 'looking for me'! I have witnesses to this including the police!.Finally since when did gesticulating at people become a criminal offence(something you did towards Steve kean and the owners on a regular basis last season!.Your actions lofty do not fit your position as a pillock, sorry pilar of society whilst representing BRFC in the Houses of Parliament so I expect you to do the honourable thing and resign from your post immediately !!

Firstly i have not got a clue what you are on about regarding Wolves last season. Secondly, why don't u tell me why i was, be careful what you allege mind So Glen verbally abused you, despite many requests for him to stay away from you? seriously, you're the guy who rings up the radio every time the group is on, you're the guy who rang Simon Littler on his mobile phone, resulting in him having to have his and his young sons seats moved for the game due to your call, you're the one who signs up for every message board to go on a tirade at us and approach us in person every time you see us to continue that tirade, yet now you expect people to believe you request us to stay away from you? lol it is the other way around mate, hence the amount of police visits you receive regarding the matter. Regarding my resignation, last time i checked, you wasn't a member of the group.

Anyway, nice to catch up with you Carl, but let's end it there eh, your attempts at reaction are boring and i ain't gonna rise to them, all the best for 2013

[glen9mullan]

could you please tell this message board why you became aggressive towards me in the aqueduct pub after the wolves home game last season and had to be restrained?.i have witnesses to prove this so feel free to report me or take legal action!.Can you please also tell this message board why you WAS arrested and cautioned by police after last seasons homegame against Liverpool ?.Please tell the truth and remember lofty I can PROVE these events did take place!.I was verbally abused by the person I allegedly assaulted despite my requests to him to stay away from me!.The person in question came 'looking for me'! I have witnesses to this including the police!.Finally since when did gesticulating at people become a criminal offence(something you did towards Steve kean and the owners on a regular basis last season!.Your actions lofty do not fit your position as a pillock, sorry pilar of society whilst representing BRFC in the Houses of Parliament so I expect you to do the honourable thing and resign from your post immediately !!

Firstly, you my friend have a serious issue, you have an obsession which is very unhealthy.

No-one has ever approached you, but you quite like approaching others. I'm still waiting for you to put my kids through an experience as you called it "Like standing them in the centre circle at Turf moor"

Threatening Children via txt messages is about your level of intelligence

You not only assaulted me at one match un-provoked, no-one came looking for you, if I remember correctly you actually legged it out the back door to prevent being arrested.

You then recieved a 12 month restraining order to not only stay away from me and my family but to make no contact with me, either by message boards, txt, phone calls, radio phone ins, or in person. You have not once stuck by this order, and have on numerous occassions tried to cause trouble with me at games which I have chosen just to ignore you.

You have also tried to cause trouble at other away games this season with members of the group as your obsession has continued onto other members of the supporter base.

Regarding the incident at the Liverpool game, you will be on about the incident were you approached a minor at threatened him I presume? Where his dad took great exception to his son being abused by a 40 plus man.

You are a discrace. Your whole campaign over the last 12 months is completely logged by the Police and you have had many visits during this period of time from them.

[Happyforeverclapper]

GAV..one of BlackburnRovers greatest supporters runs ewood blues and HE should front any newly formed supporters group but chooses not to , to protect the image of our club unlike fish and mullan who continue to embarrass our club!!!

[Ricky]

You've had a ban, you've just been allowed to post and yet all you've done is carry on your campaign on here. You were warned by myself and Tom previously to drop the hate campaign and offer something else to the MB.

You don't agree with BRAG, I get it, we all get it, we've got it since the day you joined.

It's time to leave it now. Final warning time. The next ban will have to be a permanent one as you've clearly not heeded the previous warning.

[Happyforeverclapper]

Firstly, you my friend have a serious issue, you have an obsession which is very unhealthy.

No-one has ever approached you, but you quite like approaching others. I'm still waiting for you to put my kids through an experience as you called it "Like standing them in the centre circle at Turf moor"

Threatening Children via txt messages is about your level of intelligence

You not only assaulted me at one match un-provoked, no-one came looking for you, if I remember correctly you actually legged it out the back door to prevent being arrested.

You then recieved a 12 month restraining order to not only stay away from me and my family but to make no contact with me, either by message boards, txt, phone calls, radio phone ins, or in person. You have not once stuck by this order, and have on numerous occassions tried to cause trouble with me at games which I have chosen just to ignore you.

You have also tried to cause trouble at other away games this season with members of the group as your obsession has continued onto other members of the supporter base.

Regarding the incident at the Liverpool game, you will be on about the incident were you approached a minor at threatened him I presume? Where his dad took great exception to his son being abused by a 40 plus man.

You are a discrace. Your whole campaign over the last 12 months is completely logged by the Police and you have had many visits during this period of time from them.

I would not put any minors at risk mullan and regarding textst threatening I challenge you to provide the evidence( the alleged victim KNOWS I meant no malice towards his family via text ) . As for calling me a disgrace you need to take a long hard look at yourself!.lies lies lies (as proven last week on this message board)and nothing but bull ran about the owners you now 'love'. More and more fans are turning Against you and your cancer (action group).lastly mr attention seeker I suggest you apologise for your accusations regarding threatening minors or I WILL sue you for slander!. One last thing liar.. Why can't you and fish fight your own battles?.ps please give shebbyI my regards and I can't wait till he hangs you out to dry...your that thick you don't even realise he's managed to succeed in what he set out to do...turn the fans against you! Leave this club alone once and for all and take up another attention seeking post for the good of our club!

[the original david brent]

Just curious seeing its being broadcast on a public forum, but presumably Rovers Fan was prosecuted in the criminal courts for the assault on glen Mullan? Restraining orders are only imposed in the criminal courts following prosecution.

Unless of course glen m means a non molestation order which is imposed in the civil courts.

Either way breaching these orders can result in a custodial sentence.

[Happyforeverclapper]

You've had a ban, you've just been allowed to post and yet all you've done is carry on your campaign on here. You were warned by myself and Tom previously to drop the hate campaign and offer something else to the MB.

You don't agree with BRAG, I get it, we all get it, we've got it since the day you joined.

It's time to leave it now. Final warning time. The next ban will have to be a permanent one as you've clearly not heeded the previous warning.

I apologise if I offend you but ever heard of freedom of speech? I have not threatened anybody on here but merely stated an opinion like action group members frequent do so!.The reason I am so opposed to the action group is because in my opinion and a growing number of others, the action group are giving this club a bad name!. Please could you ask the action group to post on their own website instead of this then we can concentrate on football matters ?.

[Ricky]

No there is no such thing as freedom of speech. I'm sure Glenn (Admin on this site) will advise further but freedom of speech is long gone when it comes to internet message boards.

It's your choice. I've told you what will happen if you proceed in posting the same way.

[pk1875]

If you don't like reading about the group why not simply ignore the thread?

[Gav]

GAV..one of BlackburnRovers greatest supporters runs ewood blues and HE should front any newly formed supporters group but chooses not to , to protect the image of our club unlike fish and mullan who continue to embarrass our club!!!

He’s certainly not the type of person I want representing me as a supporter or fronting any supporters group! Thats just my opinion, and this isn’t a character assassination of that chap in any way, his commitment to the club is without question.

But I’d much rather have Mr Fish and Mr Mullan running BRAG from a personal point of view.

[Glenn]

We've had to remove reported posts, for obvious reasons.

We've had to remove replies to those as they quotes the removed posts.

Sorry if this thread make less sense because of it.

Oh and read the disclaimer at the bottom of every page about acceptable content and if you want to persist with this public slanging match go do it some place else. When this inevitably escalates to a battle of solicitors, I have no desire for the site to be in the middle of it.

Now either quit posting stuff that " is defamatory or constitutes harassment, or that it contravenes the site posting guidelines, or that may result in the site or its owners, volunteers, users or members facing legal action" or do one. Either is good.

[Happyforeverclapper]

Just curious seeing its being broadcast on a public forum, but presumably Rovers Fan was prosecuted in the criminal courts for the assault on glen Mullan? Restraining orders are only imposed in the criminal courts following prosecution.

Unless of course glen m means a non molestation order which is imposed in the civil courts.

Either way breaching these orders can result in a custodial sentence.[/quoti was not prosecuted but was told to stop contacting mullan which i did and i would also like to point out that mullan spoke to me prior to a home game last season which is on police record and cctv.e]

We've had to remove reported posts, for obvious reasons.

We've had to remove replies to those as they quotes the removed posts.

Sorry if this thread make less sense because of it.

Oh and read the disclaimer at the bottom of every page about acceptable content and if you want to persist with this public slanging match go do it some place else. When this inevitably escalates to a battle of solicitors, I have no desire for the site to be in the middle of it.I apologise and will in future stick to football matters like my topic posted earlier.

Now either quit posting stuff that " is defamatory or constitutes harassment, or that it contravenes the site posting guidelines, or that may result in the site or its owners, volunteers, users or members facing legal action" or do one. Either is good.

[the original david brent]

So I'm assuming there isn't a Restraining Order in place against you then as was stated

[Glenn]

I apologise if I offend you but ever heard of freedom of speech?

Heard of it, I've actively campaigned for it! Sadly no such concept exists in UK law. However defamation and harassment do and they their prevalence online is a boom area for solicitors.

The law regarding publishing of user generated content in the UK is currently a joke. However it is still a sets laws we have to work within.

If you don't like our strict adherence to the law then may I suggest there are other alternatives.

[Happyforeverclapper]

Glenn not Glen I apologise and will stick to football matters in future

So I'm assuming there isn't a Restraining Order in place against you then as was stated

there was and I adhered to it!.

[Glenn]

Glenn not Glen I apologise and will stick to football matters in future

Nothing personal on that front. I wish the whole damn site would! My days off would be much less stressful if they did

[ABBEY]

Represent the club?? Feel free to elaborate......

Where do i 'choose' not to drink?

One happy family? You have room to talk, you assaulted a supporter at an away match last season, Gesticulated to supporters at an away game this year whilst sat on your coach and you followed myself out of a pub at an away game this year to verbally abuse me with your foul mouthed tirade, so i am sorry but one happy family we are not, when people behave as disgracefully as you do.

Now I know he is ...

[Mike E]

Mark, Glen or pk, could you at least care to answer s point I made fairly early in the thread?

Any statement put forward by a 'Blackburn Rovers Action Group' spokesman will be seen as a fan-backed statement (as opposed to members-only) in the media. That is how journo's and fans see it. Human nature, you cannot stop it. Just as how anything Cameron says is attributed to the torys.

With this specifically in mind, why does the group feel the need to give it's opinion on the manager search or any other rovers-related topic? You are speaking on behalf of every fan regardless of what you may think.

So either don't comment, or specify that you comment on behalf of whoever amongst your group complains. Eg: the McKinlay statement should have specified the reasons for it's issue (1000 complaints) etc. Anything else you say, why not specify it is YOUR opinion and help avoid the trip-ups from fans such as myself who feel they are being spoken for with statements we disagree with.

You'd be amazed how many ppl I see who ask me why I think what I do about rovers, when they have heard your opinions on tv or radio and assumed I feel the same way.

Act like the spokesmen you are rather than the protest leaders you once were.

47er - yes, I can tell an organisation when I feel there is a more competent approach it can take.

[pk1875]

I always say I speak on behalf of the Blackburn Rovers Football Community Action Group, how the media report it or people interprit is nothing to do with me. As you say "That is how journo's and fans see it. Human nature, you cannot stop it."

[Mike E]

So the next best thing to do is either put up with the ire of the people whose opinions you misrepresent (ie: all 3 of you stop whinging at us on here) or stop talking to the media as a spokesman.