[Archived] BRFC Action Group

[Mercer]

Blackburn Rovers Action Group threatens to step up campaign:

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/blackburn_rovers/news/10152972.Blackburn_Rovers_Action_Group_threatens_to_step_up_campaign/?ref=twt

What mandate do they have ?

Have they polled all season ticket holders, all their members ?

I very much doubt it.

IMO, total hypocrisy - Singh, allegedly, wanted Taylor so Glen tries to rationalise with a post on here.

Agnew / Shaw seem to be the Appleton drivers and seem to have got their way. Singh's nose out of joint so, IMO, BRAG spring to action.

Sorry guys but it is not your role to have any say in the appointment of the manager.

IMO, you have lost all credibility and seem as confused and as shambolic as our owners, directors and Singh.

And one more, if Singh is not a director nor a paid employee of BRFC, on what legal grounds is he empowered to make or overrule any decision ?

[glen9mullan]

To me that statement seems like a direct contradiction to everything coming out of the group in recent weeks.

When Taylor was linked I thought Glen said that the group wouldn't interfere in manager selection and wouldn't try and force the owners out as there is nobody to buy the club

Worryingly it looks from the outiside that this is because Shebby has been cut out of the loop and some have been put out

We said we will always go on members directives and in this case, this is what we have done. We have been up all night reading emails and messages from members Tom.

The group does and always will follow its members wishes,

Shebby being cut out the loup as you state is nonsense, no-one knows he has, and we also talk directly with the owners so it would have no baring on the decision to issue a statement

[Wendal]

A sadly predictable response from a stooge.

BRAG have wrongly involved themselves in the politics of this power struggle since Shebbys arrival and their whole credibility as a group is pinned on his success/survival.

Its amusing but sad to see the lame BRAG attempts at trying to shape public opinion.

[Parsonblue]

Blackburn Rovers Action Group threatens to step up campaign:

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/blackburn_rovers/news/10152972.Blackburn_Rovers_Action_Group_threatens_to_step_up_campaign/?ref=twt

This is why so many people dislike the action group. I would be interested in knowing what qualifications the leadership of the action group have to think that they should have a say in who the manager should be. This smacks of more politics by the group trying to defend their mate Shebby. An increasing number of fans are now seeing the Action Group as part of the problem not the solution. Appleton has spent a lifetime in the game, has a very good reputation as a coach and may develop into a decent manager in time. However, it would appear that the Action Group know better. With the Action Group, Shebby, Shaw and Agnew, not to mention the owners in India is it any wonder that the rest of the football world see us now as nothing more than a sad, pathetic little joke.

[LeChuck]

What a disgusting group BRAG have become. Obviously in bed with Shebby nowadays and fighting his corner for him.

Self-serving hypocrites, the lot of them. I have more disdain for them than I do for Venky's.

If this story makes it to the national press it will take decades to repair our reputation as a club.

[Rover_Shaun]

If it makes the loons take notice and stop this charade then I am all for it

At the end of the day the majority of posters on here are embarrassed by it and don't want Appleton but as soon as BRAG convey that message they all turn on BRAG.

Make your minds up

[Andy]

What I find frustrating as much as anything is that the press are taking the Action Group as a representation of Rover supporters as a whole, which they are clearly not.

A small section, yes, but not the majority.

At the moment it appears that they are nothing more than Singh's voice to the fans and will relay what he wants them to.

It might be best for all involved if they uninvolve themselves and take a large step backwards for a while and concentrate more on which song is playing when the players leave the tunnel at kick off...

[chaddyrovers]

BRAG should not be getting involve in choosing the next manager at all or fans shouldnt either.

Shaw, Agnew and Shebby should decide next manager is.

rovers have become far too laughing stock now.

I really dont know why so many people are against Appleton.

What I find frustrating as much as anything is that the press are taking the Action Group as a representation of Rover supporters as a whole, which they are clearly not.

A small section, yes, but not the majority.

At the moment it appears that they are nothing more than Singh's voice to the fans and will relay what he wants them to.

It might be best for all involved if they uninvolve themselves and take a large step backwards for a while and concentrate more on which song is playing when the players leave the tunnel at kick off...

agree

[Tom]

Which is a good point, we was put under increasing pressure over McKinlay and put the statement out. This lead to a further backlash. So in hindsight it was wrong of us to issue that statement. We dont always get things right and that was a mistake.

So when faced now with the same decision , and believe me we have considered it , however have chosen not to (RE Taylor).

I spoke with a Jouno today who works for TV and asked his opinion on us putting a statement out regarding Taylor. I explained that some supporters had hit the roof over the possibility. His reaction was, if we did that, any sympathy the Supporters of Blackburn Rovers now have from the media world would be lost, and we would be deemed to be far too unreasonable.

He said we would be shot from all quarters, he said some supporters may be pleased, but the chance of anyone taking the supporters serious again would be zilch.

There is nothing stopping other groups or sites issueing a statement, but on this occassion we have been advised against it

This was posted after the Taylor link

In this quote it is said that the Mckinlay statement was a mistake and doing it again would pretty much embarass the fans in public

Combined with statements the following day saying the group wouldn't try and force the owners out I just don't see what has changed so drastically

Did that many people really prefer Taylor to Appletini?

[Rover_Shaun]

BRAG have it spot on. If Appleton is appointed then it's gloves off time regarding the owners...or should be if you have the clubs best interest at heart

[Mercer]

We said we will always go on members directives and in this case, this is what we have done. We have been up all night reading emails and messages from members Tom.

Now we know what gave Kean the idea about his daily 500 letters !

IMO, feckin rubbish and BRAG are just adding fuel to the fire that is destroying our club.

[mark1875]

Did that many people really prefer Taylor to Appletini?

I will provide the link which confirms we approached Mckinlay

I will provide the link which confirms we approached Appleton

Can you provide the link which confirms we approached Taylor?

There Tom is the difference in comparison

And as for sticking up for Shebby, get a grip...and stepping up a campaign against his bosses and the owners of the club benefits him how? Defend them and we're wrong, criticise them and we're wrong, maybe we should all just remain quiet whilst the club burns down, but then didn't the fans forum get criticised for that last season also? The solution is?????

[Tom]

If it makes the loons take notice and stop this charade then I am all for it

At the end of the day the majority of posters on here are embarrassed by it and don't want Appleton but as soon as BRAG convey that message they all turn on BRAG.

Make your minds up

That's a very fair point and a point I raised about people demanding they make a statement

If you have criticised the statements in the past don't expect one now, on the flip side I have questioned this latest statement but in reality as I'm not a member it's not really my place to do that, was just after some clarity

[pontyrover]

We have become a joke and a national laughing stock and it is depressing. Appleton would be a decent appointment, better than Peter Taylor, Billy McKinlay etc. Get a grip.

Also, what gives BRAG the right to release these stupid statements that are 'representative' of the fan base? The cold hard truth is that everybody from BRAG to Agnew, Shaw, Shebby, that prick Anderson etc have been meddling with the future of our club for their own personal gain and it stinks.

[pk1875]

This was posted after the Taylor link

In this quote it is said that the Mckinlay statement was a mistake and doing it again would pretty much embarass the fans in public

Combined with statements the following day saying the group wouldn't try and force the owners out I just don't see what has changed so drastically

Did that many people really prefer Taylor to Appletini?

Taylor was a rumour though, Appleton was an official approach.

[glen9mullan]

Now we know what gave Kean the idea about his daily 500 letters !

IMO, feckin rubbish and BRAG are just adding fuel to the fire that is destroying our club.

You don't half do some trolling, Rather than moaning about everything we do, get up off ur backside and do something about it yourself, your post and constant digs are just tiresome

[Tom]

So if we approached Taylor there would have been a statement even though the group said otherwise?

The reasons given for not doing a statement never mentioned the fact it wasn't an official link

[pk1875]

So if we approached Taylor there would have been a statement even though the group said otherwise?

The reasons given for not doing a statement never mentioned the fact it wasn't an official link

We respond to members input. The Action Group isn't just the committee.

[SAS]

I will provide the link which confirms we approached Mckinlay

I will provide the link which confirms we approached Appleton

Can you provide the link which confirms we approached Taylor?

There Tom is the difference in comparison

And as for sticking up for Shebby, get a grip...and stepping up a campaign against his bosses and the owners of the club benefits him how? Defend them and we're wrong, criticise them and we're wrong, maybe we should all just remain quiet whilst the club burns down, but then didn't the fans forum get criticised for that last season also? The solution is?????

Your now turning on the owners to sell up?

But BRAG have been dressing they will not do this as no one will buy the club and that is the reason why communication lines are better?

But as soon as Shebbys nose is disjointed things change?

[Elegia]

You don't half do some trolling, Rather than moaning about everything we do, get up off ur backside and do something about it yourself, your post and constant digs are just tiresome

That's the problem with most here mate, full of it when it comes to dishing out criticism but wouldn't have the nads to stand up and do anything about it themselves.

One of the reasons Pompey are in a mess is because their fans did nothing about what was happening to their club until it was too late.

[BuckyRover]

Plus McKinlay was approached and you said that was a mistake.

This backtracking is more impressive than Michael Jackson ever managed.

Please stop releasing statements.

[Mercer]

You don't half do some trolling, Rather than moaning about everything we do, get up off ur backside and do something about it yourself, your post and constant digs are just tiresome

Glen, I've told you before - I actively supported you in the early protests and praised your initiatives.

I honestly think that BRAG is now too political with its connections with Singh.

I reserve a right to express an opinion just as you seem to do on everything Rovers.

You have set yourself up as a 'leader' in the public 'limelight' - on Radio this morning etc - and you should expect to be challenged. If you can't stand the heat then get out of the kitchen.

[mark1875]

Your now turning on the owners to sell up?

But BRAG have been dressing they will not do this as no one will buy the club and that is the reason why communication lines are better?

But as soon as Shebbys nose is disjointed things change?

Not at all, following the dismissal of Berg, we clearly stated that someone should be held accountable and the same method of appointing a manager, i.e internal disagreements effecting the outcome, could not be repeated and guess what, they have got worse we have a caretaker manager being given the month without being pre-warned, for him to find out last night tomorrow could be his last, without being warned, we have players getting disrupted and complaining to the hierarchy about the manager search, and the club cannot be ran like this. But yeah, forget the fans, players, staff and club - it's all about Shebby yeah

[Tom]

Can we now presume a buyer is in place for the club if the owners are willing to sell?

[pk1875]

Can we now presume a buyer is in place for the club if the owners are willing to sell?

Apparaentley Kamy reported that there had been two expressions of interest recentley?