[Archived] BRFC Action Group

[glen9mullan]

Anyway got to dash my last post on the matter, there is a whole thread complaining about the possibility of Appleton being appointed, we issue a statement and all of a sudden its our fault again.

The sooner supporters learn to stop turning on each other the soon the club can start to move forward. We cannot accuse the club of things which we are guilty of ourselves

[Blackpool_Rover]

Planning a protest against appointing a manager who is a well respected young manager and is already managing a fellow Championship club with promotion ambitions is disgusting behaviour.

There is absolutely no benefit to the club in this protest. None at all. All it does is dirty the reputation of all Rovers supporters. Do you not have any idea how this will make our club be perceived to the rest of the football world?

If you want to make a stand against Venky's then fine, do it. But protesting against someone like Appleton is beyond a joke, I can't even find a word to describe how stupid it is.

ABSOLUTELY AGREE 110%

THIS POST SHOULD BE PUT ON THE TELEGRAPH SITE!!!

[St_Jimmy_77]

I dnt need to antagonise you, it does not mention a protest, so you are agreeing with a post which states we are gonna protest

I know you don't need to, that's the way you come across. Not just to me, but others also and quite frankly it's uncalled for. I don't agree with any of the abuse anyone gets for their opinion, however I am simply agreeing with the points made.

A quote from the said statement

"Shall this appointment be made the BRFC Action Group will end all communication with the clubs board of directors and step up its campaign for Venkateshwara Hatcheries to sell the club as we seek responsible owners for Blackburn Rovers"

How else do you think fellow supporters would construe that? Based on past events, you have organised protests against Venkys. It may be an incorrect assumption, but this quote certainly brings up that members won't get a say in what will happen. What happens if they want you to keep the communication line going? Would you go for what you've said in this statement or do the democratic thing and listen to your members?

[Speedie Dived]

There you have it Tom, Glen said, You do this constantly recently, I'm allowed my own opinion, when it comes to group business we have to go with a collective opinion which may not always be my opinion or that of the rest of the committees

Exactly how many BRAG members contacted you then in the night about Appleton?

[PAFELL]

But all this has stemmed from Appleton's potential appointment.

Why not when Berg appointed ?

Why nothing when Taylor heavily linked ? Instead, you came on here trying to justify a Taylor appointment and saying BRAG should not get involved with managerial appointments !

So again, why all this about Appleton who is very highly respected by no less than the likes of Sir Alex Ferguson and the England manager, Roy Hodgson.

To me, your approach does not add-up and you wonder why supporters challenge you.

There should be no protest about Appleton. Accept his appointment, get behind him and see what he does.

Agreed. Instead it should be shebby singh and brag out.

[St_Jimmy_77]

I know you don't need to, that's the way you come across. Not just to me, but others also and quite frankly it's uncalled for. I don't agree with any of the abuse anyone gets for their opinion, however I am simply agreeing with the points made.

A quote from the said statement

"Shall this appointment be made the BRFC Action Group will end all communication with the clubs board of directors and step up its campaign for Venkateshwara Hatcheries to sell the club as we seek responsible owners for Blackburn Rovers"

How else do you think fellow supporters would construe that? Based on past events, you have organised protests against Venkys. It may be an incorrect assumption, but this quote certainly brings up that members won't get a say in what will happen. What happens if they want you to keep the communication line going? Would you go for what you've said in this statement or do the democratic thing and listen to your members?

[Rover_Shaun]

Appleton should be nowhere near a club like Rovers (same for Berg) let alone be allowed to see how badly he does

[47er]

Its not about protests, its about statements coming out against potential managers that is the problem. Stepping up the campaign against venkys could mean anything but naturally people will assume protests. Why wouldn't they ? That's what happened last season.

By all means comment about the disgraceful politics but please stop mentioning managers.

This site is full of Rovers supporters protesting about potential managers! If some want to take it to the protest stage, good for them.

Doesn't seem BRAG intend to though despite some people on here telling them its their duty and others telling them it would be a disgusting thing to do!

Everybody has a clear idea of how others should behave eh?

[BuckyRover]

They can't even get an accurate answer for how many members they have. I doubt they have a system that can accurately track positive/negative emails in the space of a few hours.

What if someone says I'm against him being appointed but I will support him? Is that a yes or a no? Etc.

[PAFELL]

Planning a protest against appointing a manager who is a well respected young manager and is already managing a fellow Championship club with promotion ambitions is disgusting behaviour.

There is absolutely no benefit to the club in this protest. None at all. All it does is dirty the reputation of all Rovers supporters. Do you not have any idea how this will make our club be perceived to the rest of the football world?

If you want to make a stand against Venky's then fine, do it. But protesting against someone like Appleton is beyond a joke, I can't even find a word to describe how stupid it is.

Good post.

[Mike E]

Anyway got to dash my last post on the matter, there is a whole thread complaining about the possibility of Appleton being appointed, we issue a statement and all of a sudden its our fault again.

The sooner supporters learn to stop turning on each other the soon the club can start to move forward. We cannot accuse the club of things which we are guilty of ourselves

Any chance you could answer the point I put forward, rather than being your arrogant stuck-up 'powerful' self?

[den]

BRAG are making a big mistake, getting involved in threatening action against any potential manager. Their focus should be centred around the club becoming a well respected, well run business again.

As long as the club is functioning properly then they should back the club, whoever is chosen as manager. No-one, including Shaw, Singh or BRAG can be sure how the new manager will work out. If things ultimately go wrong on the playing field and the club don't act, then Brag or any other supporter are well within their rights to show their disapproval.

If BRAG want the Raos to sort the club management structure first, then they should currently limit themselves to this aim. If that structure does become workeable again, then BRAG has to support it, even when they choose a manager who's not to their liking.

[Mike E]

BRAG are making a big mistake, getting involved in threatening action against any potential manager. Their focus should be centred around the club becoming a well respected, well run business again.

As long as the club is functioning properly then they should back the club, whoever is chosen as manager. No-one, including Shaw, Singh or BRAG can be sure how the new manager will work out. If things ultimately go wrong on the playing field and the club don't act, then Brag or any other supporter are well within their rights to show their disapproval.

If BRAG want the Raos to sort the club management structure first, then they should currently limit themselves to this aim. If that structure does become workeable again, then BRAG has to support it, even when they choose a manager who's not to their liking.

Agreed fully. Does it matter if we're in the conference? Nope. Not as long as we're run by people who know what they're doing. BRAG are knee-jerking at the appointment of Appleton, when they should be campaigning to get Venkys out regardless of what goes on on the pitch.

[47er]

Agreed fully. Does it matter if we're in the conference? Nope. Not as long as we're run by people who know what they're doing. BRAG are knee-jerking at the appointment of Appleton, when they should be campaigning to get Venkys out regardless of what goes on on the pitch.

Well join them and influence them from inside! Or write to Venkys and the press telling them BRAG don't represent you.

But you'd have to DO something then wouldn't you?

Meanwhile they'll continue to do what their members want till their members vote for new leaders.

BRAG are making a big mistake, getting involved in threatening action against any potential manager. Their focus should be centred around the club becoming a well respected, well run business again.

As long as the club is functioning properly then they should back the club, whoever is chosen as manager. No-one, including Shaw, Singh or BRAG can be sure how the new manager will work out. If things ultimately go wrong on the playing field and the club don't act, then Brag or any other supporter are well within their rights to show their disapproval.

If BRAG want the Raos to sort the club management structure first, then they should currently limit themselves to this aim. If that structure does become workeable again, then BRAG has to support it, even when they choose a manager who's not to their liking.

Den, the club is dysfunctional. It could take years for it to be otherwise, however long the Raos stay in fact. What damage will be done by then?

Someone has to protest about this lunacy. We can't just sit back and take it.

[Elegia]

Well join them and influence them from inside! Or write to Venkys and the press telling them BRAG don't represent you.

But you'd have to DO something then wouldn't you?

Meanwhile they'll continue to do what their members want till their members vote for new leaders.

Den, the club is dysfunctional. It could take years for it to be otherwise, however long the Raos stay in fact. What damage will be done by then?

Someone has to protest about this lunacy. We can't just sit back and take it.

+100000000000

[den]

Well join them and influence them from inside! Or write to Venkys and the press telling them BRAG don't represent you.

But you'd have to DO something then wouldn't you?

Meanwhile they'll continue to do what their members want till their members vote for new leaders.

Organisations such as BRAG or any other supporters group are heading for stormy waters if they just simply follow the members. The BRAG leadership must do precisely that 47er - lead.

And I'm not anti BRAG, I'm happy to support any fan that is brave enough to put their head above the parapet. In this case, I think their only making things harder for themselves. Nothing to do with me at all really, as I'm not a member. There's a thread, so I'm commenting on it, that's all.

[Athlete]

Planning a protest against appointing a manager who is a well respected young manager and is already managing a fellow Championship club with promotion ambitions is disgusting behaviour.

There is absolutely no benefit to the club in this protest. None at all. All it does is dirty the reputation of all Rovers supporters. Do you not have any idea how this will make our club be perceived to the rest of the football world?

If you want to make a stand against Venky's then fine, do it. But protesting against someone like Appleton is beyond a joke, I can't even find a word to describe how stupid it is.[/qu

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Absolutely agree what sort message is that sending out to any potential manager ?

Brag out with the three stooges

[Howler]

Someone has to protest about this lunacy. We can't just sit back and take it.

Exactly. The press release against Appleton is in my view overly harsh on him and could have been better worded, but at least it keeps us and our predicament in the media spotlight by responding to fresh news. They would likely get bored of "Venkys out" all the time and it does help to highlight the real-time shambles at the club (not that it seems to be having a positive effect on our owners, mind)

[47er]

2 headlines that sum up where we are. The first has me livid and shows what the future really holds, the second has me in stitches and encapsulates the lunacy of Venkys in one line!

Allardyce: West Ham in negotiations with Blackburn over Olsson deal London 24 22:28

Blackburn Rovers keen to appoint new manager after disappointing run of victories NewsThump (Satire) 22:25

[pk1875]

Planning a protest against appointing a manager who is a well respected young manager and is already managing a fellow Championship club with promotion ambitions is disgusting behaviour.

There is absolutely no benefit to the club in this protest. None at all. All it does is dirty the reputation of all Rovers supporters. Do you not have any idea how this will make our club be perceived to the rest of the football world?

If you want to make a stand against Venky's then fine, do it. But protesting against someone like Appleton is beyond a joke, I can't even find a word to describe how stupid it is.[/qu

ote]

Absolutely agree what sort message is that sending out to any potential manager ?

Brag out with the three stooges

Protest??? It is news to me

[Mike E]

Well join them and influence them from inside! Or write to Venkys and the press telling them BRAG don't represent you.

But you'd have to DO something then wouldn't you?

Meanwhile they'll continue to do what their members want till their members vote for new leaders.

A: I've written to Cryer and the club on both matters previously.

B: They do what their members want? Figures say otherwise

[T.J.Newton]

Hmmm

[St_Jimmy_77]

Protest??? It is news to me

It's probably an incorrect assumption, however based on this quote on the groups statement this morning, doesn't leave a lot to the imagination.

"Shall this appointment be made the BRFC Action Group will end all communication with the clubs board of directors and step up its campaign for Venkateshwara Hatcheries to sell the club as we seek responsible owners for Blackburn Rovers

Have the members who emailed through the night asked for the communication line to be severed? Or is this a committee decision? I did ask Glen further up the thread, however he had to dash off...

[rovers_rob]

This site is full of Rovers supporters protesting about potential managers! If some want to take it to the protest stage, good for them.

Doesn't seem BRAG intend to though despite some people on here telling them its their duty and others telling them it would be a disgusting thing to do!

Everybody has a clear idea of how others should behave eh?

FFS I couldn't give a toss if people protest. If you want to march, protest, fill your boots, go for it.

My problems is BRAG getting involved with who manages the club. Releasing a statement saying "If the club aren't run properly we will step up the campaign against venkys" fine, I don't have a problem with that.

but

If Appleton, Mckinlay, Sherwood etc.. is appointed we will step up the campaign against venkys IN MY OPINION is wrong. Leave the manager, potential manager out of it.

This is a political game being played by everyone and IN MY OPINION I think the players and manager whoever they are should be left out of it.

Who is to say that Appleton might not be a good manager ? The Action Group ? Why put pressure on the team ? Leave them out of all this clap trap.

[Gav]

_{Whilst I don't agree with BRAG seemingly getting involved in managerial appointments, surely they're just responding to the membership, much in the same way unions do.} If the members are 'up in arms' about a situation then its the unions obligation to take necessary action on the memberships behalf. Now the other side of this coin is that the unions are also obligated to advise members accordingly, if they believe such action would damage the credibility of the organisation or the action is just plain stupid! so it works both ways.

I also think some of the agenda driven posters on here need to take along hard look at themselves, its easy to lay into people whilst sat on your arses doing absolutely nothing, and you know who you are!