[Archived] BRFC Action Group

[Ricky]

I did go on the brag website before posting on here Baz as I thought reading the whole statement might make it clearer.

[glen9mullan]

Can you put a copy of the full statement either on here, on on the BRAG website please Glen?

When we get chance yes, Its quite a long statement as it has a number of supporters quotes within it.

This statement has had quite a few news agencies take bits out of it and use it for their pieces.

I must admit when bits are removed they can read differently

[CrazyIvan]

BRFCAG are adding as much to the circus that is Rovers as anyone else at the moment. If anyone can point out to me where this issuing press releases is actually doing any good, let me know because I can't see it. If your members have such strong opinions on the possible appointment (it ain't happened yet!) of Appleton, let them email the bloody board. Shebby makes the club look daft. Shaw and Agnew are as useless as a chocolate teapot and, as such, make the club look daft. BRFCAG make the fans look like complete morons.

No fan group should have ANY input into the potential managerial appointment of any club. Making statements threatening action based if they appoint Appleton is just plain idiotic. It can only be construed as the fans not wanting Appleton and his not getting any support from day one.

BRFCAG, it's time to shut up. Stop issuing press releases. If you're going to talk to anyone, do it privately. I'd prefer you didn't but that's my opinion.

[Elegia]

Nor does it show him as part of the coaching staff, but that don't stop him wearing a track suit.

Wearing a tracksuit = coaching staff, now I know why Appleton is classed as experienced.

[Tardyrover]

Nor does it show him as part of the coaching staff, but that don't stop him wearing a track suit.

Might be because he uses the gym.......I know I would.

[Roost]

You being serious?

1 win in 10 under Berg, drifting down the table, then Boywer comes in 3 wins on bounce, told last week he has job til end of the month, Agnew issued a statement on it, then finds out 5 minutes before club statement last night that he is being replaced.

Players were buzzing again, players were playing for him.

Why does every thread have to turn into a fan bashing thread?

More to the point why does shebby singh have to be brought into every thread

How very strange that those same words dont appear on your statement. That would have removed any ambiguity, surely.

[Tardyrover]

Makes you wonder...........while everybodies watching the circus, the thieves are at large backstage!

[Tyke87]

Suppose all we can do is wait now and see what embarrassing actions BRAG take after their threats. No doubt will cover the club in more glory. As for this so called fan bashing it seems to be all of your own making releasing stupid statements when it's not your place to do so. CrazyIvan hit the nail on the head and now if/when Appleton does get the job I'm sure he'll feel confident with the dogs at his gate before even getting a chance.

[roverzee]

Its not shebby at all, its referring to Bowyer, as the second paragraph goes straight into.

Singh aint a Rovers employee, this is the boardroom who have put the uncertainty into Bowyer and everyone else over the last week.

Why do people always try and turn words around to suit agendas?

So your earlier statement --

"Shall this appointment be made the BRFC Action Group will end all communication with the clubs board of directors and step up its campaign for Venkateshwara Hatcheries to sell the club as we seek responsible owners for Blackburn Rovers”

basically means you'll continue your distasteful alliance with Shebby Singh then?

I think you lot are totally out of your depth.

[pk1875]

To be honest I have read it over and again, and can see how it may be misunderstood, but it does refer to Bowyer who has lifted the club off the floor. We have won 3 back to back games for the first time in years the players are happy and performing, and he had fans talking about football again rather than back biting and internal politics.

[darrenrover]

IMO, the appointed Board should be empowered and allowed to do the job that they are appointed to do without sideways interference. Any one else who is neither one of the owners nor a member of the Board should never have had any place in any decision making process. The fact someone has in the past is ludicrous and has created the recent uncertainty, the fact that that person is Singh and the rest of the nonsense that he has brought to the table is complete lunacy.

I ain't saying Shaw and Agnew are ideal either, far from it but at least without Singh they can be judged on their own ability or lack of it without interference or excuses.

Also without Singh's interference and buttering up, BRAG can refocus on what they originally intended. Perhaps someone can remind us all what that was?................

[Tardyrover]

Suppose all we can do is wait now and see what embarrassing actions BRAG take after their threats. No doubt will cover the club in more glory. As for this so called fan bashing it seems to be all of your own making releasing stupid statements when it's not your place to do so. CrazyIvan hit the nail on the head and now if/when Appleton does get the job I'm sure he'll feel confident with the dogs at his gate before even getting a chance.

I find that the most embarrassing things are the constant chicken jokes............ The worst was the chicken thrown on the pitch that time!

[Mercer]

I think BRAG are now on the backfoot, probably shocked by how the fans have reacted to their, IMO, ridiculous posturing.

When Shebby goes, and will be soon I think, they will then find themselves isolated and at the mercy of Agnew and Shaw. Hmmm.

[Tardyrover]

I think BRAG are now on the backfoot, probably shocked by how the fans have reacted to their, IMO, ridiculous posturing.

When Shebby goes, and will be soon I think, they will then find themselves isolated and at the mercy of Agnew and Shaw. Hmmm.

I'm dreading that more than the Tories second half term in office!

[Ricky]

To be honest I have read it over and again, and can see how it may be misunderstood, but it does refer to Bowyer who has lifted the club off the floor.

Thank you. It's probably much easier if you have the whole press release in front of you. Problem is the paragraph before the one causing all the debate on the BBC site spoke about Agnew shaw and Singh so you can see why it has read that way.

As I said before the punctuation is the issue, that missing comma changes the meaning completely.

[Mercer]

I'm dreading that more than the Tories second half term in office!

You should be looking forward, Cam has the country firmly on the road to recovery !

[chaddyrovers]

I'm dreading that more than the Tories second half term in office!

what have the Tories done wrong so far???

[Tardyrover]

You should be looking forward, Cam has the country firmly on the road to recovery !

Spoken like a true Blackburner

[Ricky]

Guys lets get off this subject. As a local government officer if rather avoid the day job!!

[darrenrover]

what have the Tories done wrong so far???

I'm not sure but I understand they're looking for a Global Advisor.

[SouthAussieRover]

Failed to ban foreign ownership of football clubs.

[Ewoodbhappy]

IMO, the appointed Board should be empowered and allowed to do the job that they are appointed to do without sideways interference. Any one else who is neither one of the owners nor a member of the Board should never have had any place in any decision making process. The fact someone has in the past is ludicrous and has created the recent uncertainty, the fact that that person is Singh and the rest of the nonsense that he has brought to the table is complete lunacy.

I ain't saying Shaw and Agnew are ideal either, far from it but at least without Singh they can be judged on their own ability or lack of it without interference or excuses.

Also without Singh's interference and buttering up, BRAG can refocus on what they originally intended. Perhaps someone can remind us all what that was?................

Owning and running a football club is or should be like no other business.

We ( the fans ) are not like customers of Asda or Tesco choosing the best value fruit & Veg.

The clubs customer base are passionate about the clubs foundations, history and tradition.

With that in mind the board should listen very carefully to its loyal customers/ fanbase. If we don't get back to the premier league, our money & opinion will be crucial to the continuation of BRFC as a viable entity.

They should listen. Especially when we - fans with extensive and varied knowledge of football are continually proven right, in pointing out their failings.

[roverzee]

Its quite a long statement as it has a number of supporters quotes within it.

This statement has had quite a few news agencies take bits out of it and use it for their pieces.

I must admit when bits are removed they can read differently

You are listed on your website as the Press Officer, you also have a Communications Officer. You have been courting / using / dealing with the press for nearly 2 years now.

What have you learnt? Why are you still issuing press statements that can be picked apart, instead of something that could be precise, and released with an instruction to use all or nothing?

The result is that the most read English news website story reads like this --

On Thursday, Blackburn Rovers Action Group released a statement. "Internal power struggles have become far more important [than what happens on the field]," it read.

"While one man has tried to pull the club off the floor others in the board room have turned the club into a national laughing stock by undermining him… personality clashes are being prioritised over the best interests of the football club, it appears contradictory messages and statements add to the pantomime."

And whether intentional or unintentional - you have added to the pantomime yourself.

[darrenrover]

Owning and running a football club is or should be like no other business.

We ( the fans ) are not like customers of Asda or Tesco choosing the best value fruit & Veg.

The clubs customer base are passionate about the clubs foundations, history and tradition.

With that in mind the board should listen very carefully to its loyal customers/ fanbase. If we don't get back to the premier league, our money & opinion will be crucial to the continuation of BRFC as a viable entity.

They should listen. Especially when we - fans with extensive and varied knowledge of football are continually proven right, in pointing out their failings.

Just to clarify, I wasn't making any reference whatsoever to unnecessary interference from supporters.

The Club as an entity should always consider them first and foremost. Without them there is no club.

[glen9mullan]

Right for 6 months since the trips the authorities we have tried a whole new strategy.

When protest started people kicked off, it was easier to blame the people protesting that to actually do anything themselves, did we give in? No we did not.

We then complied a dossier of over 400 pages, this went to the FA, Premier League, Football League and its content was deemed appropriate to be taken to Parliament.

Not one single supporter outside the Action Group provided any evidence, but numerous on these very boards discussed corruption, wrong doings. Yet when the time to deliver came, nothing but fantasies, and nothing since.

We was very aware we had a good case but more was needed.

What was the best way to do this? I think that answer is obvious.

Everyday I read the same things from supporters who have chosen to do nothing, supporters who would rather blame those for doing things, than do something themselves.

If I had the choice to do things this way again, believe me 100% I would have approached things the exact same way? Why you may ask?

Work it out for yourselves, a number of posters on here are fully aware why we have changed approach, why we are done what we have done, and why we are exactly on course of a fixed plan we put together. Including a timeline.

The hatred in the supporter base, makes us all feel at times, why do we bother?

However our love for our club and determination to bring everyone accountable for their actions of the 2 last years will not wilt until justice is done.

Had people decided just for moment to learn about the group and speak with us, then perhaps you would be more informed of what the group is doing.

I have probably written too much here now, but remember with each post and comment you have pushed for this!!!!!!