[Archived] BRFC Action Group

[Roost]

Third Managers post, I would class that as experienced. Its not his first job and no-one could have predicted the course of events which have lead to this.

The fact the decision has come direct from India with no Ewood influence now puts a question mark over everyone at Ewood

Proof, if it were ever really needed that you are nowhere near qualified to discuss football credibly, let alone be close to potential decision makers within the club.

[Speedie Dived]

I know this is childish, but I can't help it. Forgive me. Well, can't be helped, considering that I'm still a child when placed against senior citizens on here. But here goes:

I TOLD YOU ALL SO! :angry2:

Never seen anyone have a breakdown before on a messageboard, it's different i will give you that.

Clearly about Singh.

And your little rant about the media looking at Rovers fans is very contradictory. You are saying that it's not right for a few people on a messageboard to criticize a statement that has gone out to the entire nation criticizing the appointment?

I can see the Daily Mirror getting hold of that one " Rovers in turmoil as 10 fans question own statement"

People have the right to question something, that whether truthful or not, gives the impression it comes from all Blackburn fans.

[Rover_Shaun]

Third Managers post, I would class that as experienced. Its not his first job and no-one could have predicted the course of events which have lead to this.

I knew that you would say that. Experienced has a very wide remit. You would probably say Gary Bowyer is now experienced

[Black Burn]

Never seen anyone have a breakdown before on a messageboard, it's different i will give you that.

Clearly about Singh.

And your little rant about the media looking at Rovers fans is very contradictory. You are saying that it's not right for a few people on a messageboard to criticize a statement that has gone out to the entire nation criticizing the appointment?

I can see the Daily Mirror getting hold of that one " Rovers in turmoil as 10 fans question own statement"

People have the right to question something, that whether truthful or not, gives the impression it comes from all Blackburn fans.

Sorry, I was feeling irritated by all the attacks on BRAG so I typed before thinking.

Glen himself and Mark and the others all clearly stated that it was Bowyer, and considering that they were the ones who wrote and released the statement I would take their word over your interpretation. Admittedly, as they themslves have confessed, the wording of it was vague so it's not your fault (or others) that you misinterpreted it as Shebby Singh. I was just acting like a child and wanted to gloat a bit, I should apologize for that.

Perhaps you overlooked this statement, so I'll paste it again for you to read.

I understand that people disapprove of BRAG's actions, and maybe have different opinions as to how to save the club. I can accept that. What I can't accept is people falsely accusing innocent people of stuff they didn't even do!

In other words, I'm not saying it's not right for a few people on a messageboard to criticize the statement. I'm saying it's not right to accuse BRAG of being Shebby Singh's puppet and approving of his every choice, ie Had Shebby Singh been the one to say "I want Appleton" BRAG would happily say, "great appointment!" when BRAG already disapproved of Shebby Singh's McKinlay suggestion just recently. I'm saying it's not right to accuse BRAG of approving Appleton and seeing him as an experienced manager when they had just released a statement voicing their disapproval just two days ago. However, had people disapproved of BRAG disapproving the manager without accusing them of siding with or being biased toward Shebby Singh, I would never have been so frustrated. In fact, I understand where they come from, and accept that everyone has different views on what should and should not be done, especially with regards to BRAG's actions.

It is one thing to disagree, but it is another matter entirely to flame people for wrongs they did not do.

And please, enough dissing of Glen about the "experience". He said that Appleton was experienced in a tongue in cheek manner, and you guys are taking it way too seriously. Considering that he had just released a statement two days ago disapproving of Venkys's choice of an "inexperienced" manager in Appleton, and that he and BRAG would take further action if he really got appointed, plus his submission of his resignation this morning, it is clear that Glen thinks as much as everyone else that Appleton is inexperienced. So don't take his tongue-in-cheek comment and beat him over it.

This is why I'm getting increasingly frustrated and annoyed. People turning on each other for no good reason. Disasgreeing, I can deal with. Abuse? Derogatory comments based on untrue accounts? Harrassing Glen in a condescending manner? That I cannot and will not accept.

However, my posts are admittedly over the top and I apologize for that.

[philipl]

I appreciate that Glen's resignation is a huge blow to BRFCAG.

Glen achieved a huge amount for all Rovers supporters and I for one acknowledge and am grateful for what he has done.

I had my reservations about recent closeness with Shebby Singh and the resignation gives BRFCAG a chance to step back and reassess strategy especially as Shebby is no longer ascendant. We need a strong and effective BRFCAG.

[Black Burn]

I appreciate that Glen's resignation is a huge blow to BRFCAG. Glen achieved a huge amount for all Rovers supporters and I for one acknowledge and am grateful for what he has done. I had my reservations about recent closeness with Shebby Singh and the resignation gives BRFCAG a chance to step back and reassess strategy especially as Shebby is no longer ascendant. We need a strong and effective BRFCAG.

Maybe Shebby Singh should become the new head of BRFCAG.

[Rover_Shaun]

I appreciate that Glen's resignation is a huge blow to BRFCAG. Glen achieved a huge amount for all Rovers supporters and I for one acknowledge and am grateful for what he has done. I had my reservations about recent closeness with Shebby Singh and the resignation gives BRFCAG a chance to step back and reassess strategy especially as Shebby is no longer ascendant. We need a strong and effective BRFCAG.

The King is dead! Long live the King!

[SouthAussieRover]

Black Burn, were you the poster who denigrated a thread about Uncle Jack a year or so ago? If not i apologise.

As for GM...he's fought the fight and its time his family came first again.

[Black Burn]

Black Burn, were you the poster who denigrated a thread about Uncle Jack a year or so ago? If not i apologise.

As for GM...he's fought the fight and its time his family came first again.

Huh? What Uncle Jack thread? I don't think I have ever commented on a thread on Jack Walker, so I think you've got the wrong guy. I respect him and all the stuff he has done for Rovers, but regretfully I only became a fan shortly after his passing. The problems with being born overseas.

And I agree, Glen did his best and we should let him focus on his family now.

[DE.]

Black Burn, were you the poster who denigrated a thread about Uncle Jack a year or so ago? If not i apologise.As for GM...he's fought the fight and its time his family came first again.

You're thinking of the poster 'hesfromburn'. I think that was his username anyway.

[SouthAussieRover]

Cheers DE4 and apologies to Black Burn.

[Howler]

Can't believe the abuse Glen and BRAG get on here, mostly from people who have done F all themselves to bring about change in the club.

Yes they may be a bit misguided and amateurish at times but at least they are trying to change things, getting a message across to the media and pehaps making those responsible for our predicament sweat a bit. What with Venky's, SEM, terrible managers and the boardrooom farce the actions of a supporters group are pretty low down the list of our priorities I would suggest.

Lets save the vitriol for Venky's, the board and Anderson.

(Typing as a non BRAG member who has never met any of them)

[Mercer]

All this must have had a huge impact on Glen's personal life and, hopefully, his resignation will allow him much more quality time in that direction.

In the first year of Venky's / Kean, Glen and his organisation did the job that was required in putting the issues Rovers faced in the public eye. Unfortunately, it is only over recent times that the penny seems to have dropped within the media / press. In time to come, we might all be thankful for those efforts if individuals who haven't had / don't have the best interests of Rovers are eventually exposed.

My personal view is that some things recently have gone a little 'off track' with BRAG, however, as Philipl above, I think there is a role for BRAG but a rethink of its strategy and tactics might help.

[PAFELL]

This clearly has not been the most glorious chapter in the history of the action group. At some point we are all going to need to pull together as supporters as there will undoubtedly be far worse crises ahead. Some might be closer than anyone expects. I just hope BRAG realise their press release dropped Rovers supporters into a hole through its ambiguity and please stop digging an ever deeper hole.

Well said philip.

[47er]

This clearly has not been the most glorious chapter in the history of the action group.

At some point we are all going to need to pull together as supporters as there will undoubtedly be far worse crises ahead. Some might be closer than anyone expects. I just hope BRAG realise their press release dropped Rovers supporters into a hole through its ambiguity and please stop digging an ever deeper hole.

You don't half exaggerate Philip. I'm a Rovers supporter and I don't feel remotely in a hole.

(Depressed maybe!)

[Andy]

All this must have had a huge impact on Glen's personal life and, hopefully, his resignation will allow him much more quality time in that direction.

In the first year of Venky's / Kean, Glen and his organisation did the job that was required in putting the issues Rovers faced in the public eye. Unfortunately, it is only over recent times that the penny seems to have dropped within the media / press. In time to come, we might all be thankful for those efforts if individuals who haven't had / don't have the best interests of Rovers are eventually exposed.

My personal view is that some things recently have gone a little 'off track' with BRAG, however, as Philipl above, I think there is a role for BRAG but a rethink of its strategy and tactics might help.

Agree with this and Philipl's comments.

However intentional/unintentional it might have been, the Action Group has become the Glen Mullan Group and he has been seen as the figurehead.

Now is a good time for the group to re-strategise, consildate and come back stronger, more professional and with no strong ties to any specific person at BRFC (ie Singh).

[bypass06]

Think your all jumping the gun a bit, Glen has not resigned,

He has only offered his resignation,

And i for one, hope it's refused.

[Tom]

It's not like a job where it can be refused by the board though its his sole decision as he isn't under contract

Good luck to him either way

[LeChuck]

Think your all jumping the gun a bit, Glen has not resigned,

He has only offered his resignation,

And i for one, hope it's refused.

Not sure how much input Glen has, but BRAG definitely need a change of direction.

There is no way they should be releasing statements to the press about managerial decisions, and even then the statement that did come out was very poorly worded and leds to lots of misinterpretation from many fans. Glen did a very good job last season of putting a reasoned public face to the protests and probably helped reduce negative media reaction to them. However, Kean is long gone and owners can't be made to sell a club for many reasons, so a fresh approach is needed.

Perhaps the best we can hope for is that Venky's can be persuaded to sell a portion of the club to the supporters so that there is genuine fan influence in the boardroom. This is what I'd like to see them to work towards, imo they should withdraw any public face altogether (unless it is fundraising for said project).

[Sparky Marky]

Think your all jumping the gun a bit, Glen has not resigned,

He has only offered his resignation,

And i for one, hope it's refused.

Mullan1 : I'd like to offer my resignation

Mullan2 : We won't accept itv

Mullan 1: Ok

I can imagine the conversation he will have with himself.

[OJRovers]

Surely after this mess, BRAG should focus to remove from the club the things EVERYONE agrees on: VENKYS and the Board of Directors and Shebby.

[Amo]

Surely after this mess, BRAG should focus to remove from the club the things EVERYONE agrees on: VENKYS and the Board of Directors and Shebby.

We can't afford to (apparently).

[BuckyRover]

Mullan1 : I'd like to offer my resignation

Mullan2 : We won't accept itv

Mullan 1: Ok

I can imagine the conversation he will have with himself.

And his transformation into a politician will be complete

[T.J.Newton]

Mullan1 : I'd like to offer my resignation

Mullan2 : We won't accept itv

Mullan 1: Ok

I can imagine the conversation he will have with himself.

I'm picturing that conversation taking place at a table with the other 2/3 vocally prominent members sat beside him taped up&gagged.

[Black Burn]

Mullan1 : I'd like to offer my resignation

Mullan2 : We won't accept itv

Mullan 1: Ok

I can imagine the conversation he will have with himself.

Can I implore you guys to stop making fun of Glen? Seriously. He's doing a thankless job and you're just sniping at him with vicious comments. You don't have to agree with him, but at least lay off the insults and derogatory comments. I'll ask you guys once again to, even if you disagree with him, just...just leave him alone. Disagree if you must, but please leave out these remarks of ridicule.

And for your information, it was a whole bunch of others who asked him to reconsider, including Mark. If you've been in the website following the events instead of thinking of how to make fun of Glen, you might actually have found out about that.