[Archived] New Manager

[onlyonejackwalker]

+1

Whilst I agree with letting one man sort out this mess, I don't think anyone yet knows whether Shaw can be trusted. Personally, I'd sack the lot of them and bring in a neutral man with no links to any affiliation but who has had a career in English football at boardroom level and let him get on with it.

That would also be my approach. There are many respected and qualified professionals who could do a good job at the Rovers. If advertising world wide the MD or board members vacancies at Rovers, neither Shaw, Agnew or Singh would make my top 1000.

[koi]

Derek struggles with shoelaces.

[dingles staying down 4ever]

Its got to the point where if any of Shaw, Agnew, Singh and now BRAG have Rovers at heart then they need to leave there posts.

I know BRAG had their hearts on there sleeves but they are not helping matters any more. All they seem to be doing is adding to rumours. It has become a war of PR between the two halves - Agnew and Shaw against Singh and BRAG. There are no winners in this.

Guinine question Is Burnley Bob still on the board? If he is then let him find a new manager and put the warring parties out to grass.

[jim mk2]

There's only one way forward here for me. and it's quite simple. If I was Mrs D I would be saying to Agnew and Singh, thanks a lot, but you have to leave. I would say to Shaw - You're now in charge, find me a football manager.

I've met a Shaw a few times and was distinctly unimpressed. The fact is the calibre of people at the club from the top down is poor, classic cases of ambition triumphing over talent. Steve Kean was another example. The club needs a clear-out from the top.

[Mullionvagrant]

That would also be my approach. There are many respected and qualified professionals who could do a good job at the Rovers. If advertising world wide the MD or board members vacancies at Rovers, neither Shaw, Agnew or Singh would make my top 1000.

i'm inclined to agree despite my previous pro Shaw/Agnew post this has just left me completely confused. Well done Glen for throwing a curve ball!-if nothing else you've made today's reading interesting! I think if you did wipe the floor clean. Advertise or appoint a respected board team you might suddenly find people like Hughes etc...express an interest in vacant managers job-these things have a habit of snow balling. It is pretty clear Venky's like to have a hands off approach to the day to day running of the club so yes this in my opinion would be the best and sensible course of action. It being the best and sensible approach means it clearly isn't going to happen though, as that would be a complete new way of thinking for Venky's.

[den]

LOL!

Derk in charge you gotta be having a giraffe!

Look what good he did at Preston for God's sake, I am all for stability but Mr Shaw is definitely not the guy I would want at the helm of our ship in these very stormy waters...

To me this situation is at the critical stage, people are going to get sacked here. I understand your doubts about Shaw, although I'm not sure how well founded they are. The next move at Ewood has to be one that brings this situation under control immediately. Sacking the managing director at this point in time, leaving us with no football manager or anyone actually in charge at Ewood would only make the situation much worse. Do what I suggest and take it from there. In time, weeks, months or whatever Shaw or anyone else can be replaced, but now isn't the time to leave the club with no management whatsoever.

[Happyforeverclapper]

It's been taken down, we can only assume that Agnew threatened the site, so it's being looked into. It was rather scathing of the worst press officer in the country, no surprise there then.

Just on the worst press officer in the country, his meddling first became apparent during the fans visit to Pune, his attempts to keep the fans away from the owners didn't work, he was overruled by the owners themselves. He offers nothing to Blackburn Rovers, he should be run out of the club, because in my opinion his actions are of a man interested on only money and power and that's very dangerous as we have found out over the 12 months.

The sooner Agnew goes the better, he's only a pawn in this sorry saga, but you eliminate the pawns to get to the king and he must go ASAP.

AGNEW OUT

Was you present when what you state above happened or are you just adding more ammo for mullans topic???

[PAFELL]

+1.

Good post Den.

Yes I agree. Both you and Den have put up good posts.

More twists and turns than a classic spy movie. Whats next, somebody walking around ewood singing, "me and my shadow".

One solution. Get rid of Singh, Shaw, Agnew, Acton group - Mrs D should go and grovel to John Williams tell him they got it wrong. ask him to come back and sort the mess out.

Just going off Mullen's posts. All three, shaw, agnew, singh are responsible for the mess that is going on at rovers. All 3 should be working together for the benefit of the club. But all three appear to be acting like a bunch of school girls. All three showing they are not fit to be anywhere near a football club.

Get rid of the lot of them.

[den]

I've met a Shaw a few times and was distinctly unimpressed. The fact is the calibre of people at the club from the top down is poor, classic cases of ambition triumphing over talent. Steve Kean was another example. The club needs a clear-out from the top.

It does Jim, but one step at a time. First of all arrest the situation. Shaw or anyone else can be replaced at any point in the future. I'm talking of what needs to be done today.

[Mike Graham]

To me this situation is at the critical stage, people are going to get sacked here. I understand your doubts about Shaw, although I'm not sure how well founded they are. The next move at Ewood has to be one that brings this situation under control immediately. Sacking the managing director at this point in time, leaving us with no football manager or anyone actually in charge at Ewood would only make the situation much worse. Do what I suggest and take it from there. In time, weeks, months or whatever Shaw or anyone else can be replaced, but now isn't the time to leave the club with no management whatsoever.

The most sensible post for a long time

[ABBEY]

I've met a Shaw a few times and was distinctly unimpressed. The fact is the calibre of people at the club from the top down is poor, classic cases of ambition triumphing over talent. Steve Kean was another example. The club needs a clear-out from the top.

I chatted to someone lets say close to him and he said he only wants money from us.

[Claytons Left Boot]

Guinine question Is Burnley Bob still on the board? If he is then let him find a new manager and put the warring parties out to grass.

I've mentioned Burnley Bob before in so far as if he is still with us - and I think he is - then he is perhaps the only tangible link within the club to the days when Jack started putting money in. The days when we did things in a professional manner.

If anyone needs to get the Raos and Singh to smell the coffee and learn how to do things the Rovers way, it's Burnley Bob.

I never hear his name mentioned. What is his role at the club? Is he just taking the money and keeping his head down?

[my_name_is_Earl]

To me this situation is at the critical stage, people are going to get sacked here. I understand your doubts about Shaw, although I'm not sure how well founded they are. The next move at Ewood has to be one that brings this situation under control immediately. Sacking the managing director at this point in time, leaving us with no football manager or anyone actually in charge at Ewood would only make the situation much worse. Do what I suggest and take it from there. In time, weeks, months or whatever Shaw or anyone else can be replaced, but now isn't the time to leave the club with no management whatsoever.

I've got to disagree with that Den. I think the club is in absolute meltdown and the best way forward is to clear the club of all personal agendas. You can easily hire a man over a period of a week, obviously he will have to learn the ropes at the club but for all the time it takes to get a grip of the club, it's another day closer to the club finally being united again. Carrying on with Shaw is just allowing agendas to continue. We need a flood to drown out all the rats.

[Sysagent]

To me this situation is at the critical stage, people are going to get sacked here. I understand your doubts about Shaw, although I'm not sure how well founded they are. The next move at Ewood has to be one that brings this situation under control immediately. Sacking the managing director at this point in time, leaving us with no football manager or anyone actually in charge at Ewood would only make the situation much worse. Do what I suggest and take it from there. In time, weeks, months or whatever Shaw or anyone else can be replaced, but now isn't the time to leave the club with no management whatsoever.

Whilst I sympathise with your opinion and what you are trying to convey, do you honestly think that Mr Shaw has any real influence on what happens at Rovers?

[Ewoodbhappy]

So to summarise not everything is as it seems, one half of the club have PR Media experience and can spin what they want, the other half is just a TV pundit with no PA and his own voice.

One issues strategic statements and leaks to friends, the other just comes out with wild statement to make the pantomine even more believeable.

On another note I have noticed Mark has tweeted Shebby will be in with his Lawyers tomorrow seeking action over the Mirror article

Glen, again I take my hat off to you for trying to clarify things, without compromising all info.

I might be off the mark, but is there influence from outside, due to club ownership, or player ownership / agents ect?

[RevidgeBlue]

Guinine question Is Burnley Bob still on the board? If he is then let him find a new manager and put the warring parties out to grass.

He is. Personal view, he's the last person I'd want on the Board as well. From being vice chairman unde Bill Fox I thought he'd been effectively and thankfully margnalised during the Jack Walker years but he seems to have clung onto his position on the board like a limpet to safeguard his status and position at the FA etc.

Re: Shaw, the "cash is King" comment made me laugh. My mate who gets stuff off him is always laughing about him saying "Can we do cash on that Tony" in his squeaky voice.

However I'd agree with den. Even though he sounds like Mavis off Coronation St. he is imo a genuine sort of bloke and he's the best we've got at the moment. We've rather more pressing problems than him in terms of appointing the right manager and getting some results - fast.

[Stuart]

I've no personal experience of Derek Shaw but the fact he's now being painted by some as the best man to steer us forward shows how far we have fallen as a club.

The photo on the back page of today's LT shows Ali outside Brockhall. What a frightening thought. The caption though, suggests that the LT are siding with AgShaw.

"Judan Ali at Brockhall yesterday - but any appointment has been put on hold after directors Derek Shaw and Paul Agnew flew to Pune to hold crisis talks with Venkys"

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[Ferrit]

One very important point to note before I forget, one JEROME ANDERSON Met with Shaw prior to his flight yesterday, the content of that conversation is at this point unknown , although I am trying to find out more

This @#/? is like a turd that just won't flush.

[den]

I chatted to someone lets say close to him and he said he only wants money from us.

Not you in particular here Abbey, but this being being manouvered into a "is Derek Shaw a good MD?" debate. That isn't what I'm arguing. The club has needed, since Berg was appointed, the MD to step forward and take control of the club and more importantly, those people around him. That hasn't happened and it doesn't look like it will. I'm saying MRS D must take this decision. She must put one man in charge straight away and make sure he has total authority. That man at the moment -IMO - has to be Shaw. There is no-one else. With that in position, Agnew and Singh aren't needed and should be shown the door. From there, the club can move forward. Sacking everyone in sight isn't the best way today, as some are suggesting.

[dingles staying down 4ever]

He is. Personal view, he's the last person I'd want on the Board as well. From being vice chairman unde Bill Fox I thought he'd been effectively and thankfully margnalised during the Jack Walker years but he seems to have clung onto his position on the board like a limpet to safeguard his status and position at the FA etc.

Re: Shaw, the "cash is King" comment made me laugh. My mate who gets stuff off him is always laughing about him saying "Can we do cash on that Tony" in his squeaky voice.

However I'd agree with den. Even though he sounds like Mavis off Coronation St. he is imo a genuine sort of bloke and he's the best we've got at the moment. We've rather more pressing problems than him in terms of appointing the right manager and getting some results - fast.

In the past I'd agree with you but in the present climate the club needs the unholy cancerous trinity removing ASAP. This leaves a void to fill. Coar was part of the comittee which employed Don Mackay so has employed managers at Ewood. For the first time in decades make him work instead of socialising at the FA.

[RoyRover]

had he not come the truth which is now hitting India (The real reason Shaw n Agnew are there) Would still be buried.

What truth is that Glen? Thanks for all the info by the way.

[Mullionvagrant]

What truth is that Glen? Thanks for all the info by the way.

Read Beer wins' comment in the 'What would happen if people spoke' section of the board.

[FourLaneBlue]

I think a lot of fans need a reality check about the kind of manager we should be happy with. There have been posters on here poo-poohing the likes of McLeish, Keane, Davies etc. I don´t know what they´ve been watching for the last 2 years, but any of those would be fantastic and we should be having a street parade if it happens. Even Owen Coyle would be amazing.

Why? Well, we haven´t even had a proper manager for 2 whole years! Nobody at all with any British management experience whatsoever. It is looking like a few very carefully selected coaches and Singh or someone like that picking the team. We are going from bad to worse to biggest laughing stock in recent English football history.

Any manager with any relevant experience AT ALL would be an utter joy. Something unknown for the last 26 months or so at Ewood Park.

[wampam]

is it possible to ascertain exactly what jerome anderson's role has been and currently is ? i can't understand how he is still on the scene. surely the owners have been taken for enough of a financial ride as it is ?