dr who true blue Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 We need a manager in before the transfer window closes.
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RibbleValleyRover Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 History has shown at Rovers that we need experience and that promoting from within has never worked for us. Bowyer shouldn't get the job, there needs to be widespread change at the club and the only way that will happen is with a strong willed external candidate. Giving him the job will only lead to more of the same.
dingles staying down 4ever Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 We need a manager in before the transfer window closes. Prefer it before the window opens
beerwins Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 Is Bowyer more than just a coach though? Hasn't he proven he has tactical know-how in the reserves?Also I'm not sure the turn would be the same now after all we've been through - and without any 'baggage'. People didn't turn on Berg, to be fair. The majority of fans want an experienced hand back at the helm, I understand that results are all that matters but we have had 2 failed experiments now and it really isnt the time for another inexperienced manager, if Bowyer got the job and things went sour there would still be the same old conspiracy theories, same old panic when we drop a few points, fans heads will go down because they will worry than an inexperienced man would not have the gumption to turn it around. He took training for one day and got a win against a bad team and I am happy he is at the club but that does not make him a credible applicant for the managers job in my opinion.
Pitty Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 David Moyes got promoted from reserve manager to manager at PNE, he is not doing to bad now. But answer to your question is NO, we need experience now and not another gamble.
Parsonblue Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 Gary is a genuinely nice bloke who did an excellent job with the Under-18's and is now doing a superb job bringing the youngsters on in the Reserves. I really wouldn't wish working with Shebby on anyone, least of all Gary. I was very pleased for him today as he's a real football man which makes him a rarity at Ewood Park these days!
Sparky Marky Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 Ive stood behind Bowyer durinng many u21 games and he is certainly not a tactician or a guy Id want in charge.
Stuart Posted December 29, 2012 Author Posted December 29, 2012 Natural order then PB? If he's brought through these young lads, maybe it could work for him to see them right to the first team. Maybe in a Shebby-less parallel universe somewhere, eh...?
Parsonblue Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 Natural order then PB? If he's brought through these young lads, maybe it could work for him to see them right to the first team.Maybe in a Shebby-less parallel universe somewhere, eh...? I really don't know if Gary would want the top job. When I look at some of the names that are being linked he certainly couldn't do any worse. I think he could do a decent job coaching at senior level but I think this job needs an old head with plenty of experience. Like Henning, Gary is a decent guy and the folk he would have to work with are - well they are what they are.
USABlue Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 I'll just add Chris Hughton was promoted from first team coach at Newcastle so it's not completely unheard of. I have a lot of admiration for that man. Wish we could have had him.
Blue blood Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 Assuming he made the substitutions think he got them spot on today. First was forced by injury but Olsson for Rochina to make us more solid when under pressure and then a tired King off for Nuno Gomes both worked out.
Torgeir Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Ive stood behind Bowyer durinng many u21 games and he is certainly not a tactician or a guy Id want in charge. Care to elaborate on that?
bob fleming Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Ive stood behind Bowyer durinng many u21 games and he is certainly not a tactician or a guy Id want in charge. Good guy I've been told Sparky, same with Terry McPhillips. And for that reason I hope they don't get involved and go quietly back to their day jobs before its to late.
pick32 Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 No doubt he has achieved a lot with the youth and reserves if anything over achieved but we need someone who can steady the club aswel as the team.
Stuart Posted December 30, 2012 Author Posted December 30, 2012 No doubt he has achieved a lot with the youth and reserves if anything over achieved but we need someone who can steady the club aswel as the team.Over achievement is Blackburn Rovers secret middle name.And his success with the younger players just makes me think even more that he could be the man to steer the likes of Hanley, Henley, etc. I wonder if he is ambitious? I take the point about him bring a nice guy and not wanting him sacked as a result of failing with the first team but doesn't everyone get involved in football to reach the highest level? It'll be interesting to see how we play on Tuesday - if Bowyer is still in charge at that point.
Ricky Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Done as well as can be expected with the reserves. Was it last season or the season before he won the northern section after beating man united at old Trafford. His dad managed down here at Hereford and Gary was here as a player too.
Kelbo Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Over achievement is Blackburn Rovers secret middle name.And his success with the younger players just makes me think even more that he could be the man to steer the likes of Hanley, Henley, etc. I wonder if he is ambitious? I take the point about him bring a nice guy and not wanting him sacked as a result of failing with the first team but doesn't everyone get involved in football to reach the highest level? It'll be interesting to see how we play on Tuesday - if Bowyer is still in charge at that point. Its a big ask to step up, is it a risk we need to take at this moment, possibly a good first team coach to help the young lads through, he needs to move one step at a time and then we would also have a ready made caretaker manager on board. I saw Bowyer do well with the under 18s and he seems to have kicked on with the ressies but I do feel, when dealing with seasoned internationals and an under performing team, it needs more at the moment!!
chaddyrovers Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Hope Gary Bowyer will keep on when new manager comes in either as Reserve team manager or an coach with the first team.
Doug Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Wrong time for Bowyer as, possibly the most important transfer window opens, it would be too much of a gamble allowing him (or Shabby) to pick the targets/release the under achievers. Bowyer's opportunity should've been when kean left. The clearout (with hindsight) should have happened then. A couple of games as we searched for a 'proven' manager. This is certainly not the time to gamble with Rovers future on a '2nd team coach' pretending to be a manager. That's not meant to be disrespectful to Bowyer as he is obviously a very good coach. He has insufficient experience for the job.
Stuart Posted December 30, 2012 Author Posted December 30, 2012 Is Bowyer reserve team coach or reserve team manager?
Doug Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Is Bowyer reserve team coach or reserve team manager? Reserve team coach......according to Rovers website
Stuart Posted December 30, 2012 Author Posted December 30, 2012 Fair enough. I'll bet he has more management experience than a lot of first team coaches though, albeit in the reserve league.
Lathund Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Isn't he both? Coaches the players in training, and takes charge of the team on match days. I would guess he also has significant input in which academy players to promote etc?
T.J.Newton Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 I think Bowyers tactics and starting 11 was far bolder than anything Black put out during his caretaker stint, will be interesting to see if he can build on it against a much better team like Forest on Tuesday and if he can i think he should at least be promoted to 1st team coaching duties.
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