[Archived] Michael Appleton - New Rovers Manager

[Plastics]

  On 08/02/2013 at 13:56, ABBEY said:

I'd like to see him left back ......

Left back in the dole queue.

You do know we are talking about Henley don't you?

[bypass06]

Have Venkys Failed at the Transfer Game?

http://notbottomline.wordpress.com/2013/02/08/have-venkys-failed-at-the-transfer-game/

[Plastics]

Some signings were bought for very different reasons than Premier league players would have been and we also had to save some money when they came in by balancing the wage bill.

One thing we can say is they got us relegated and this has meant we can't perform as well in the market as we did when in the Premier League. Nothing further needs to be said.

[hesfromburn]

I think having Orr available at right back is a good thing over playing young players often results in them being injured and becoming injury-prone players, IMO Phil jones is being burnt out at a very young age which happens to a lot of young players in this country being pushed too hard too soon, giving these players such ridiculous contracts at such a young age doesn't help matters either

[roversfan99]

""I'd rather have a smaller group of players of true quality, rather than a massive group of players when it's all about quantity and not much quality."
Appleton added that he would be willing to allow strikers Nuno Gomes and David Goodwillie leave the club on loan, while he admitted that former Rovers and England man David Bentley is on a list of "five or six" wingers he is interested in signing"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21357135

So it seems Appleton is insistent on a smaller squad, and now Gomes and Goodwillie are considered excess.

The squad he wants seems based around: Kean, Usai, Orr, Henley, Givet, Dann, Hanley, Martin Olsson, Markus Olsson, Nunes, King, Williamson, Murphy, Pedersen, Lowe, Etuhu, Kazim, Rhodes, Campbell, Best.

[ABBEY]

  On 08/02/2013 at 13:58, Plastics said:

You do know we are talking about Henley don't you?

. Oooops

[chaddyrovers]

Appleton on Rovers player said he would like to bring 3 or 4 more players on loan.

guess Bentley is one

[LeChuck]

  On 08/02/2013 at 16:16, roversfan99 said:

""I'd rather have a smaller group of players of true quality, rather than a massive group of players when it's all about quantity and not much quality."

Appleton added that he would be willing to allow strikers Nuno Gomes and David Goodwillie leave the club on loan, while he admitted that former Rovers and England man David Bentley is on a list of "five or six" wingers he is interested in signing"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21357135

So it seems Appleton is insistent on a smaller squad, and now Gomes and Goodwillie are considered excess.

The squad he wants seems based around: Kean, Usai, Orr, Henley, Givet, Dann, Hanley, Martin Olsson, Markus Olsson, Nunes, King, Williamson, Murphy, Pedersen, Lowe, Etuhu, Kazim, Rhodes, Campbell, Best.

Not sure it's even that big.

- Givet would have left if a buyer had been found. He'll definitely go in the summer.

- Nothing to suggest he rates Nunes, has barely featured so far. That Markus is ahead of him suggests that Appleton doesn't rate him.

- Etuhu...who knows? Hasn't featured. Could be another under achieving signed he wants to get rid of and use Lowe/Williamson.

[47er]

  On 08/02/2013 at 10:41, CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber said:

Calm down dear!

I think with Henley out getting Orr back is not such a bad shout. I am sure Appleton is aware of Orr's history with the fans so he is just trying to placate us somewhat . .

Didn't realise Venkys new PR company were utilising David Cameron's skills!

  On 08/02/2013 at 12:01, RockinRover said:

Get over the Orr comments. That is the past just like Kean. Now is about the future and getting us back to the Premier League. If Orr can play a part in that then so be it.

Another confident new poster!.........

[Blue n White Rover]

  On 08/02/2013 at 20:30, 47er said:

Another confident new poster!.........

Only a matter of time before he feels the wrath of Abbey's Caps Lock key!

[Plastics]

Don't write him off yet. Give him a few more posts. Let him settle in. Typical of this board to be putting the pressure on so early. He'll never recover.

[Blue n White Rover]

[insert new posters name] OUT!!!!

[tonyoz]

  On 08/02/2013 at 20:30, 47er said:

Another confident new poster!.........

Nowt wrong with that.

[Guest Norbert]

But is he local?

[Plastics]

Optimistic about today, which never bodes well. Usually means either an early goal to the visitors or a very flat game usually culminating in one or less points.

[Andy]

The Orr comments seem a bit strange.

I'm still not happy about him being at the club until he apologises for his comments post-Wigan.

If he'd kept his gob shut and said nothing, then he'd be fine now and an average player in an average squad, but he's brought the grief onto himself and it won't/can't improve until he accepts that he was wrong to say what he did.

As for today, I've just realised that I have Rovers on both of my accumulators for today...that's not a good sign

[bypass06]

Appleton confident Williamson will deliver

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/blackburn_rovers/news/10217747.Appleton_confident_Williamson_will_deliver/

DJ sure Rovers will make the play-offs

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/blackburn_rovers/news/10217743.DJ_sure_Rovers_will_make_the_play_offs/

[Plastics]

I still can't see what was so bad about what Orr said unless I'm reading the wrong transcript.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/blackburn-steve-kean-defended-by-player-823300

He's defending the manager and criticising the players. He's not said anything negative about the fans generally. He said sometimes the line is crossed but with individuals it was. People running on the pitch, people threatening a man and a chicken being released onto the pitch during an important game. You can see how somebody would feel that was going to far. As for comments on passing the buck he's making that about the players and saying they should take responsibility. Whether you agree with what he says at least he's taking blame himself.

I'm sorry if I'm misunderstood and I'm looking at a different interview to you guys. I will be happy to see what he said if he said something different - I probably missed it at the time as I wasn't up to reading football stories at that time. Up to now though I'm confused and can only see him as a victim of Kean's awfulness, loyalty to his employer and taking part of the blame.

[matt83]

  On 09/02/2013 at 09:59, Plastics said:

I still can't see what was so bad about what Orr said unless I'm reading the wrong transcript.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/blackburn-steve-kean-defended-by-player-823300

He's defending the manager and criticising the players. He's not said anything negative about the fans generally. He said sometimes the line is crossed but with individuals it was. People running on the pitch, people threatening a man and a chicken being released onto the pitch during an important game. You can see how somebody would feel that was going to far. As for comments on passing the buck he's making that about the players and saying they should take responsibility. Whether you agree with what he says at least he's taking blame himself.

I'm sorry if I'm misunderstood and I'm looking at a different interview to you guys. I will be happy to see what he said if he said something different - I probably missed it at the time as I wasn't up to reading football stories at that time. Up to now though I'm confused and can only see him as a victim of Kean's awfulness, loyalty to his employer and taking part of the blame.

I think as much as anything it was more the timing of it.

Lets call a spade a spade kean was an abomination one of the very few issues that think all rovers fans agreed upon. So to come out minutes after relegation and stick up for a guy who was deluded, a liar, relentlessly positive in the face of overwhelmingly negative outcomes and should have been sacked months if not year ago

And what got to me wasn't the fact that he stuck up for his manager (understandable as he was a guy rotting in qpr's reserves so isn't going to bite the hand that feeds) but the fact he didn't need to say anything. Even if a camera is stuck on front of his face and he was asked about kean he could have declined to comment.

So it wasn't so much what he said more the fact nerves were still raw and of course he was defending a guy who with help of venkys pretty much singlehanded relegated a club that 18 months previous were solid mid table. Also I never really though the players were to blame the fact they weren't organised, had no fitness was and the blame for that lies with kean.

[Plastics]

He isn't going to decline to comment though, is he? He'd have been out of the club straight away given that Kean was kept. He could have done worse things than shoulder part of the blame himself.

The guy was being relegated to the level he belongs.

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

  On 09/02/2013 at 09:59, Plastics said:

I still can't see what was so bad about what Orr said unless I'm reading the wrong transcript.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/blackburn-steve-kean-defended-by-player-823300

He's defending the manager and criticising the players. He's not said anything negative about the fans generally. He said sometimes the line is crossed but with individuals it was. People running on the pitch, people threatening a man and a chicken being released onto the pitch during an important game. You can see how somebody would feel that was going to far. As for comments on passing the buck he's making that about the players and saying they should take responsibility. Whether you agree with what he says at least he's taking blame himself.

I'm sorry if I'm misunderstood and I'm looking at a different interview to you guys. I will be happy to see what he said if he said something different - I probably missed it at the time as I wasn't up to reading football stories at that time. Up to now though I'm confused and can only see him as a victim of Kean's awfulness, loyalty to his employer and taking part of the blame.

To have nothing but 'admiration and respect' for Kean is the issue. Orr isn't a terrible player but to have defended both Kean and the owners just after we had been relegated wasn't a smart move.

[Plastics]

But he isn't a terrible player is he?

[matt83]

  On 09/02/2013 at 10:23, Plastics said:

He isn't going to decline to comment though, is he? He'd have been out of the club straight away given that Kean was kept. He could have done worse things than shoulder part of the blame himself.

The guy was being relegated to the level he belongs.

You can always decline to comment in fact with the level of intellect amongst most football players I wish more would. Don't know what exact question was but a simple answer like its not my place to comment on the manager or players AND manager to blame. It's a bit of a copout answer but it avoids heaping praise on a man who was indefensible.

  On 09/02/2013 at 10:30, Plastics said:

But he isn't a terrible player is he?

In the championship i certainly don't think he's terrible he's average but at the time of his comments and judging him on the standards of a prem player he was terrible. But as we're in the championship and Henley is injured he'll do for now.

[DE.]

He's not great.

The worst thing about the Wigan aftermath was the lack of apology from anyone - all the players, Kean, the owners...not a single one apologised to the fans. Listen to that Orr interview and you'll hear nothing about the fans except that they "crossed the line" in regards to Kean. It's subtle disdain.

[Plastics]

Relations with fans were hardly at a high though, were they? Had they had the support through the season maybe they'd have been more inclined to speak up. Just my opinion and I'm not saying anything further as it's been done to death. All I want to say on that topic is in this post.