[Archived] Michael Appleton - New Rovers Manager

[rovers_rob]

  On 11/01/2013 at 14:26, Blue and White Army said:

He was asked his opinion and gave it.

He should speak for himself then and not for everyone.

[EgyptianPete]

  On 11/01/2013 at 14:11, callumrovers said:

Like MG Road said. It is 40% for and 60% against. How does anyone know this is a terrible appointment? don't give me the @#/? about his win ratio either.

Okay how many members does this forum have 1,000, 2,000, more or less, point being it seems 60/40 or perhaps more at least want to give our proposed new manager a chance.

i am glad that the 12.000 or so supporters that are left who are going to home matches don't read some of the vitriol some of you so called supporters come out with on this message board it is quite upsetting/annoying no one it seems is good enough, thank god team GB didn't lose any matches, i can see it now, if we lose tonight its because we appointed a manager and upset the team --- that would be clutching at straws.

Please support the Manager/Team whoever it is (except Coco of course)

[Rover_Shaun]

He said most fans and he would be correct. Who wanted Appleton? The square root of zero

At least under Kean we had no hope. Now hope is kicked in the gonads every couple of months. Better no hope than a fools hope.

[Mike E]

  On 11/01/2013 at 12:00, M-K said:

International manager with Wales, one of the club's senior pro's, played at the very highest level, learned his trade under some of the best managers in the business, appointed by a competent board that backed him in the transfer market, etc, etc...

And look at where he is now.....

I still say circumstances matter little and it only matters how Appleton does HERE. Who'd have thought that Pardew would go from Lg1 Charlton to taking Newcastle into the top 6 in 2 years?

[RibbleValleyRover]

  On 11/01/2013 at 14:11, callumrovers said:

Like MG Road said. It is 40% for and 60% against. How does anyone know this is a terrible appointment? don't give me the @#/? about his win ratio either.

You won't be saying that if his win percentage average continues at Rovers. If it does Rovers will be playing in League One next season.

[AJW]

Poll Mods ?

are you in favour of Appleton getting job ..... simple yes or no

[Blackburn Ender]

We don't know if Appleton will be successful or not. Nobody, including himself and Shaw, knows.

He will stand or fall on results just like Berg did. Or any other manger at any club.

But, you have to think the ownership and leadership of the club from India and Ewood is not going to help anyone be a success. A real hindrance if anything.

Good luck to Appleton. I'm not jumping up and down with excitement because it's yet another unproven appointment and therefore a big gamble.

[Exiled in Toronto]

  On 11/01/2013 at 14:35, Blackburn Ender said:

We don't know if Appleton will be successful or not. Nobody, including himself and Shaw, knows.

He will stand or fall on results just like Berg did. Or any other manger at any club.

But, you have to think the ownership and leadership of the club from India and Ewood is not going to help anyone be a success. A real hindrance if anything.

Good luck to Appleton. I'm not jumping up and down with excitement because it's yet another unproven appointment and therefore a big gamble.

This sums up my feelings, I'd never heard of him till 2 days ago.

But for all those advocating keeping Bowyer on, how many were calling for him to be manager 4 games ago? No-one, because he had zero experience or track record as a manager. All that counts is getting results and no-one knows what results we'll get under Appleton.

[RockinRover]

Okay I get that most of these fan groups have motives and keep spreading rumours but why is it that when they make a statement saying what a majority of you lot are saying on here you all slate them? You can't go "Oh Appleton is a horrible appointment!" and then slate Wild, Mullan or whoever for saying the same thing to the press. They're only doing what you can't.

[Rover_Shaun]

  On 11/01/2013 at 14:35, Blackburn Ender said:

I'm not jumping up and down with excitement because it's yet another unproven appointment and therefore a big gamble.

Exactly. On the surface I too hope he does well. However airing grievences on this forum will not be repeated at the ground as everyone wants Rovers to do well, no matter how unlikely that is.

Will he get a lot of rope? I doubt it but that's more the fault of his bosses then himself.

[JAL]

  On 11/01/2013 at 13:35, LeChuck said:

None of us know anything about Bowyer and McPhilips' managerial ability. You can't tell a single thing from three games.

We were always going to need a long term appointment. Admittedly I'm surprised they've done on the back of a three game winning streak.

Have you been to all three

[LeChuck]

  On 11/01/2013 at 14:33, AJW said:

Poll Mods ?

are you in favour of Appleton getting job ..... simple yes or no

Needs to be more varied than that. Something like...

- Very happy, first choice

- Not first choice but happy with the appointment

- Acceptable. Will wait and see

- Not happy, should have done better

- Awful appointment

Something like that anyway. A yes or no is too blunt, I'm sure how I'd vote in that scenario.

[rovers_rob]

  On 11/01/2013 at 14:33, AJW said:

Poll Mods ?

are you in favour of Appleton getting job ..... simple yes or no

Its not as simple as that.

If it was a choice between Appleton and Billy Davies then I would have taken Davies.

But if it was a choice between Appleton and Taylor then I would choose Appleton.

I'm not saying Appleton is the answer and most (if not all) fans wouldn't have him as first choice but I want to give him a chance.

Wayne Wild and BRAG have both come out with statements about the running of the club. Fine. It is a shambles. But leave the new manager out of it.

At the end of the day we all want Rovers to win and these public statements about a manager that hasn't even been given a chance yet aren't helping.

[Batman.]

All the Blackpool fans I have spoken to (and I know many) are very disappointed. They liked what they saw, and thought he was building well.

But saying that, you lot know better.

[T.J.Newton]

  On 11/01/2013 at 14:31, EgyptianPete said:

Okay how many members does this forum have 1,000, 2,000, more or less, point being it seems 60/40 or perhaps more at least want to give our proposed new manager a chance.

i am glad that the 12.000 or so supporters that are left who are going to home matches don't read some of the vitriol some of you so called supporters come out with on this message board it is quite upsetting/annoying no one it seems is good enough, thank god team GB didn't lose any matches, i can see it now, if we lose tonight its because we appointed a manager and upset the team --- that would be clutching at straws.

Please support the Manager/Team whoever it is (except Coco of course)

+1

p.s. MODS is there no way we can have the +- points sytem back please?, it would massively reduce people having to constantly defend&attack each others posts and get personal.

[Kamy100]

  On 11/01/2013 at 14:24, Stuart said:

Hang on. Didn't we first hear it from Kamy?

Play fair.

Err no. I didn't mention JA or SEM.

I said that two people who I trust had told me that Appleton's agent is Kentaro. I qualified that by giving Appleton's agebt history and saying that Kentaro have bought a lot of agent companies who they allow to run pretty independently so needed name of the agent.

[BuckyRover]

  On 11/01/2013 at 14:49, rovers_rob said:

Its not as simple as that.

If it was a choice between Appleton and Billy Davies then I would have taken Davies.

But if it was a choice between Appleton and Taylor then I would choose Appleton.

I'm not saying Appleton is the answer and most (if not all) fans wouldn't have him as first choice but I want to give him a chance.

Wayne Wild and BRAG have both come out with statements about the running of the club. Fine. It is a shambles. But leave the new manager out of it.

At the end of the day we all want Rovers to win and these public statements about a manager that hasn't even been given a chance yet aren't helping.

It coukd be argued that there is more chance of Wayne getting what he wants if Appleton fails IMO.

[koi]

Thought this would have been official by now.

[JAL]

  On 11/01/2013 at 14:53, Kamy100 said:

Err no. I didn't mention JA or SEM.

I said that two people who I trust had told me that Appleton's agent is Kentaro. I qualified that by saying that Kentaro have bought a lot of agent companies who they allow to run pretty independently so needed name of the agent.

Can we assume that to get in at Rovers one needs to be under this ever expanding umberella or forget it.

[McClarky]

We don't really have much choice but to give him a chance do we as we don't pick the manager. I'm worried that Shebby might pick someone else for the job though and they'll have to erect another dug out and have them both shouting opposite instructions at the same time to their half of the team. Wouldn't put it past this shower.

[gumboots]

Most supporters you speak to will say it's not an appointment they welcome

If that's what Wilde actually said then he's quite right. Most on here haven't welcomed it. Not all are filled with outrage; most are so fed up with the way the club is run generally that it's hard to see a manager they would "welcome". Most are against the appointment more because of the way we were led to believe that this time we'd get someone with more of a proven track record. Not necessarily a world beater - we're realists who know we don't deal in that market, nor even in the market of pretty darned good any more- but someone who tended to do quite well at this level in the way that O'Driscoll does or Davies/Davis (can't remember which he is) What we don't like is the mess the whole sorry crew at the top end of our club have made in the way they have gone about the appointment, and because appleton doesn't have that appeal to most of us, we are perhaps being unfair in taking out our frustrations on him and his appointment rather than on the 6 idiots who run the club. We can't get to Venkys; singh, Shaw and Agnew are off playing footy manager somewhere and so Appleton once again carries the can for a move which, in financial terms, you can't blame him for taking. As with all previous managers, however they were appointed, even Kean, I will hope they do well, because their success is ours. I will of course reserve the right to protest as loudly as anyone if it all goes wrong as most feel it could well do.

[Stuart]

  On 11/01/2013 at 14:49, Batman. said:

All the Blackpool fans I have spoken to (and I know many) are very disappointed. They liked what they saw, and thought he was building well.

But saying that, you lot know better.

Not sure about that either. I've spoken to Blackpool fans who aren't fussed either way.

They found him a dour character and will move on to the next manager without too much concern.

Although one of them thought "Ince would be a good 'un".

[Roversider]

  On 11/01/2013 at 13:56, callumrovers said:

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11676/8390581? Most supporters you speak to will say it's not an appointment they welcome," Wild said. What a @#/?. He does not represent every Blackburn Rovers supporter. These 'fan' groups are doing more harm than good.

I am a member of BRST and an enthusiastic one at that. Wayne has been a very active supporter and a key element in creating BRST and that is something I would thank him for. I also give him a bit of leeway as when you are asked a question you answer it, occasionally without care for the consequences.

However, I really think this is a time to show a bit of restraint as adopting a partisan position polarises and alienates a chunk of the supporters who we want to support the BRST agenda. We haven't had any sort of real collection of views on Appleton so it is inappropriate to represent others views in this way, I speak for myself and no-one else - and I am not unhappy with Appleton as a manager, apprehensive yes but I do welcome him to the club.

Time to hold a mirror up to ourselves and try and understand what people may think we are saying and not what we think we are saying. I include BRAG in that when their comment on one man trying to improve things was interpreted as being about Shebby as opposed to Gary Bowyer who they say it actually referred to. "While one man has tried to pull the club off the floor others in the board room have turned the club into a national laughing stock by undermining him" - the choice of wording of 'others in the board room' naturally leads to it appearing to refer to a board member.

Choose your words carefully, particularly when you are talking to the media - they aren't always on our side although the local boys are generally ok.

[Baggie192]

  On 09/01/2013 at 22:47, Torgeir said:

So why didn't he succeed him then? Not like Roy left on bad terms, and I imagine they were happy to let Appleton have a crack at being manager when he left too. Anyone hired deserves a chance, that doesn't mean we can't be massively against someone before it happens.

Venky's out.

Because he took the Portsmouth before Hodgson left. We were in talks with Hodgson for a new contract before he took the england job, and, hired Steve Clarke instead after. Its no big conspiracy. "that doesn't mean we can't be massively against someone before it happens" Statements such that does "Supporters" of your club a massive disservice, I listened to a few of the podcasts where people on it decried the media for having a pop at the protests. Well that kind of makes the media's point for them don't you think?

Edit another point about O'Driscoll, to play Devil's Advocate. While at Doncaster he once lost 19 straight. No ones perfect

[Doug]

SSN have just showed him outside ground. No wonder some of our squad are not sure about him.....he looks a right hard case!!

We may be able to save money on player bonuses and incenctives.....the new incentive is you get the @#/? knocked out of you if you lose.....and you don't if you win!!