[Archived] Michael Appleton - New Rovers Manager

[den]

I concur with darren. I see both sides and am not saying I glibly accept that all is rosy, far from it. I do however take the view that what I cannot change I do not particularly worry about. Change is good but it does need to be given time to work.

What's happening is good and they need more time??

[riverside returns]

Nit picking den!

Change, as an entity, is good. When change occurs, it is important to then have stability to be able to assess the outcome.

Take into your view the point that we as supporters cannot change the minds and decisions of the owners. They seem immune to the criticism. Therefore, I see that we only have the ability to support our team.

[den]

Nit picking? I don't think so.

The whole bunch of them are t****rs and need kicking out of the club. You can take the approach that they were right to change the club by means of sacking the manager, the board of Directors, keeping Kean for two seasons and selling an entire squad of players, while bringing in a host of unheard of and mainly useless foreigners, via a possee of overcharging agents taking millions more from the club than they ever did previously - and because we can't do anything about it, we should support them, but I think you're on your own.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

Change, as an entity, is good.

Eh?

[LeChuck]

I guess it's all a question of perspective. Mine is that you don't see a manager host a press conference on his own when he has just been appointed. Since time immemorial, a club has unveiled a manager with the MD or chief exec sat next to him. It's seen as an excitng time for a club, a new beginning, naturally they want to proudly present the manager.

I've never known of an instance where a manager has been unveiled by himself, that's just weird.

Let's not forget we've just hired a new PR company so I'm guessing they're heavily involved in anything like this now.

They probably recognised immediately the negative affect Singh was having on the image of the club. They probably also recognised that Rovers have an image of a club owned by people who influence and make decisions over a manager's head.

Perhaps they arranged for this type of press conference to try and put the manager at the forefront and remove all the background circus.

[den]

Let's not forget we've just hired a new PR company so I'm guessing they're heavily involved in anything like this now.

They probably recognised immediately the negative affect Singh was having on the image of the club. They probably also recognised that Rovers have an image of a club owned by people who influence and make decisions over a manager's head.

Perhaps they arranged for this type of press conference to try and put the manager at the forefront and remove all the background circus.

Rather than have the chairman sat next to him, backing his appointment? I don't think so LeChuck.

[yoda]

Eh?

He is right, read the book "who moved my cheese"

[Mike E]

One last note, 76 pages, and he's not even taken charge for one game yet!

Now THAT is laughable haha

To be fair, Derek Shaw should have been next to him. But then again, maybe it gave Appleton a bit more freedom in what he could say without someone batting off certain questions? Would we have got the agent answer with any venky or minion there? There's only Derek Shaw that I have any faith in and even that is miniscule.

[EgyptianPete]

He is right, read the book "who moved my cheese"

Very Very good

[LeChuck]

Rather than have the chairman sat next to him, backing his appointment? I don't think so LeChuck.

PR is all about image and it's very symbolic to have Appleton to do the interview in the way he did. Obviously the biggest image problem Rovers has is the involvement of Venky's and their stooges, so I think it's a pretty effective statement.

There has to be a good reason for it, and I don't believe the reason is that Appleton is out in the cold. Shaw was happy enough to announe we'd made an approach, and Venky's obviously back him or they wouldn't have hired him.

[yoda]

Very Very good

we are not all daft that slaver

[DE.]

Nit picking den! Change, as an entity, is good. When change occurs, it is important to then have stability to be able to assess the outcome.

I hate this upper-management doublespeak garbage. Change wasn't good when we sacked Sam and brought in Steve Kean, was it? No amount of stability was going to make that a good decision.

[yoda]

I hate this upper-management doublespeak garbage. Change wasn't good when we sacked Sam and brought in Steve Kean, was it? No amount of stability was going to make that a good decision.

go with the flow brother, your life will be calm and tranquil

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

He is right, read the book "who moved my cheese"

No thanks, prefer not to take definitions of english words from pop psychology authors. Ignoring cheesy, irrelevant "lessons on life", change literally means different, and different doesn't literally mean good. Think I'll side with Samuel Johnson over Spencer Johnson on that one.

Destroying something that took decades of money, hard work, excellence, persistence and courage to build, and then making out that its somehow a good thing, is ridiculous. Nothing could have been more important to this club than preserving our Premiership status by any means necessary for as long as humanly possible. Thats one change that the next generation of Rovers fans could still be lamenting 30 years from now.

[Rover_Shaun]

Adkins sacked after two promotions and with

a good chance of staying up.....madness. The game is fast becomming a busted flush.

[yoda]

No thanks, prefer not to take definitions of english words from pop psychology authors. Ignoring cheesy, irrelevant "lessons on life", change literally means different, and different doesn't literally mean good. Think I'll side with Samuel Johnson over Spencer Johnson on that one.

Destroying something that took decades of money, hard work, excellence, persistence and courage to build, and then making out that its somehow a good thing, is ridiculous. Nothing could have been more important to this club than preserving our Premiership status by any means necessary for as long as humanly possible. Thats one change that the next generation of Rovers fans could still be lamenting 30 years from now.

luddite lol

I was referring to how change is taking place all the time, just depends on how you manage it, the venkys mismanage it on the evidence so far, I cannot fathom how the rest of their businesses survive looking at how they have run the Rovers

[ABBEY]

Abbey is always angry

What did I do now ?

[riverside returns]

Very well put yoda. Change does need to be managed and quite clearly the venky's failed on that count thus far. However, the latest change does appear to have some structure and meaning to it and we can only hope. For without hope we have nothing.

[bigbrandjohn]

Adkins sacked after two promotions and with

a good chance of staying up.....madness. The game is fast becomming a busted flush.

we can only speculate whether he would have come to us if he had been available a few weeks ago. Unless the Venkys have a change of heart now ;- )

[riverside returns]

Wow I think even venky's would fail to justify replacing Appleton before a ball has been kicked.

[neophox]

Adkins sacked......maybe he'll take the job at Blackpool?

The more likely scenario is, Birmingham will sack Lee Clark and appoint Adkins, Clark going tol Blackpool.

[bypass06]

Roy Hodgson advised Michael Appleton to take 'disaster shipwreck' job at Blackburn

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/roy-hodgson-advised-michael-appleton-to-take-disaster-shipwreck-job-at-blackburn-8457586.html

[LeChuck]

Adkins can do much better than Blackpool.

He'll be first choice for almost any Championship club that has a vacancy.

[tomphil]

Good start BUT

How did Appleton talk directly to the owners? Somebody set that up.

Why is Appleton given Kean-like power and not Berg-like victimhood. Somebody set that up.

Also who brought Orr in to be Keans lieutenant and now all of a sudden he appears set to come back ? It seems MA may have an adviser after all !

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

luddite lol I was referring to how change is taking place all the time, just depends on how you manage it, the venkys mismanage it on the evidence so far, I cannot fathom how the rest of their businesses survive looking at how they have run the Rovers

Just to correct an assumption you seem to have made, I welcomed Venkys to the club when they first arrived and was more than happy for things to change at that point. The Walker Trust had taken £20m out of the club in transfers over a period of 12 months and financially things couldn't continue as they were. Other fans objected to their experience, knowledge and in some cases where they were from. I said give them a chance because there was no realistic alternative. So I'm not a luddite in the slightest thanks.

I'm definitely a realist though, and realistically Venkys have destroyed the club that Jack built. They've appointed a collection of buffoons to run the club, and they've appointed another novice manager with another highly questionable record in what will be the most financially damaging season in the club's history if we fail to be promoted.

If you want to wrap that in a cloak of philosophical cotton wool thats your perogative. Personally I prefer a frank and honest judgement of whats working for the club and what isn't. Whether we're listened to much or not, if incompetence ceases to be criticised period then absolutely nothing will prevent it continuing.