Torgeir Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 Will the money be spent on anything any good? Other than Rhodes bought at full price, we have acquired dross.Apparently Sam was paid £15k by Rovers. That is an ominously low figure. £15K and you get Martin Olsson for £3.5m?
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jim mk2 Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 And as an aside Den the plan can work well. You don't have to spend big bucks as long as you have a good structure in place. Norwich and Swansea are two good examples. Our downfall is that we are an absolute shambles behind the scenes. If you want to win promotion you don't sell your best players. Rovers should tell West Ham he can leave at the end of the season.
LeChuck Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 You've been saying this for years Ricky. The plan's working well isn't it. It can work well in principle though. Look at Swansea - sold their best two players (Allen and Sinclair) for big money, then bought several players for less that have improved them as a team overall (Michu, Ki, Hernandez, de Guzman, Chico). We did the same succesfully in the past as well. Of course, you need managers and a scouting system that can find these players...but for argument's sake, I think we could be stronger with a £2 million left back and £2 million central midfielder if they were chosen well than with Olsson.
EgyptianPete Posted January 10, 2013 Author Posted January 10, 2013 It can work well in principle though.Look at Swansea - sold their best two players (Allen and Sinclair) for big money, then bought several players for less that have improved them as a team overall (Michu, Ki, Hernandez, de Guzman, Chico). We did the same succesfully in the past as well. Of course, you need managers and a scouting system that can find these players...but for argument's sake, I think we could be stronger with a £2 million left back and £2 million central midfielder if they were chosen well than with Olsson. The above may be true, BUT we don't have that scouting system anymore, i dread to think who will allowed to buy anyone, if at all. Just as i said in the opening post this tells me as a supporter sorry pal we ain't going for promotion, and what message does this tell the other two or three that could make the PL, will they want to jump ship at the earliest opportunity, yet more BS from the Venky's who keep saying our best players are not for sale. I bet Mikey Delap is having a heart attack poor lad.
beanie Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 £15K and you get Martin Olsson for £3.5m? Can i ask why exactly the club had to pay anything to Sam any way in this case if i worked in tescos and my supervisor got sacked i got the job got drunk and called him a crook would tesco's have to pay him?
Gally Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 If they offered us 5, could we not just send them Marcus instead?
philipl Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 Can i ask why exactly the club had to pay anything to Sam any way in this case if i worked in tescos and my supervisor got sacked i got the job got drunk and called him a crook would tesco's have to pay him? Kean implicated the club in believing Sam was a crook and more over stated that was the reason why the club sacked him. Of course if Kean were lying about this, the club would have dismissed him without compensation....
den Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 It can work well in principle though.Look at Swansea - sold their best two players (Allen and Sinclair) for big money, then bought several players for less that have improved them as a team overall (Michu, Ki, Hernandez, de Guzman, Chico). We did the same succesfully in the past as well. Of course, you need managers and a scouting system that can find these players...but for argument's sake, I think we could be stronger with a £2 million left back and £2 million central midfielder if they were chosen well than with Olsson. If you want to weaken the squad LeC, then sell your best players. If you want to strengthen, then sell your weakest players. Don't see any of the top clubs around the world selling their best players willingly - or as part of a strengthening plan. The top clubs buy the best players, they don't sell 'em. Yes, I know they can afford to, but the key word here is "willingly". Oh, and bottom line is, we're where we are because we've sold every one of our best players.
Ricky Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 Den, you've completely ignored the example given. Swansea DID sell their 2 best players this summer.
den Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 Den, you've completely ignored the example given. Swansea DID sell their 2 best players this summer. They had little option Ricky. Good luck to Swansea, but if they continue to sell their best players they'll finish back where they came from. You're advocating selling our best players as part of a plan and that's a whole lot different. We've been doing that for two years now and that's why we were relegated.
Ricky Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 I'm not advocating it, I'm accepting it. Huge difference. He wants to go, he made that clear in the summer. The point I made is that if he wants to go we need to use the money to plug the holes in our team.
den Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 I'm not advocating it, I'm accepting it. Huge difference.He wants to go, he made that clear in the summer. The point I made is that if he wants to go we need to use the money to plug the holes in our team. "And as an aside Den the plan can work well." Sounds like you were Ricky. Anyway, glad it didn't take long for you to fall in line with my way of thinking.
The Rover of Finland Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 Hope this one is sorted soon. We really need someone there if he goes. Someone who can defend would be nice.
Ricky Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 And then I gave you an example of when it has worked well
Robin Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 Would definitely sell for anything above £5m. Time for Marcus Olsson to change positions, he's probably even more erratic than his twin brother though - but could become a useful left back in the Champ. Have you seen Marcus play?
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 7m?...maybe just about bail us out of the financial shyte if we dont get promotion.
Exiled in Toronto Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 Apparently Sam was paid £15k by Rovers. That is an ominously low figure. Indeed. Nothing to do with Rovers involvement in the slander being tangential at the most
roverandout Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 if we sell ollson, we shoud make a move for gareth bale!!!
Pedro Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 They had little option Ricky. Good luck to Swansea, but if they continue to sell their best players they'll finish back where they came from. You're advocating selling our best players as part of a plan and that's a whole lot different. We've been doing that for two years now and that's why we were relegated. We've sold our best players for a lot longer than two years. Problem now is we buy @#/? to replace them and have employed crap managers to develop them.
vyeo Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 7m for Olsson is truly astounding. If true, the Indians have pulled another one out of the bag after Kalinic. Thing is, why do they have this ability to get good fees, but no nous whatsoever in all other aspects of running the club?!
Stuart Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 We've sold our best players for a lot longer than two years. Not all at once!
den Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 We've sold our best players for a lot longer than two years.Problem now is we buy @#/? to replace them and have employed crap managers to develop them. We've sold them as long as I've been watching us. That's why we spent so many years in the old second and third divisions. It's also the reason why we're in this league. Some of you guys will never learn.
Salgado Is A Hero Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 Do you genuinely believe that Kean would have kept us up if we kept Samba, Phil Jones and our other "best players". Even though he almost relegated us with the very same players.....with a massive headstart over Blackpool etc. Kean/Venky's relegated us because even if we bought more quality players to add to Samba etc, we still would have gone down.
J*B Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 I agree - should Martin leave I think we should have a bid for that Garry Bale, from Tottingham. He looks a good young prospect.
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