[Archived] Venky's, including Mrs D., in town this week ?

[beerwins]

The thing is, the feelgood factor, such as it was, existed because Bowyer and Mc Phillips were working for the good if the club, wearing their hearts on their sleeves with, seemingly, no hidden agendas.

This was blown away by an underwhelming, nothing appointment of a rookie manager with a similar win percentage as Kean.

The players like the fans were expecting Bowyer to carry on or an experienced man to come in, what they weren't expecting was another no-mark to come in shouting the odds. Players with no passion, managers with no experience, owners with no heart and fans with no patience left.........promotion......your having a laugh, not under these owners.

[Kamy100]

I think that the relationship between the fans and the owners is broken to such an extent that it is unrepairable (all the fault of Venky's).

Current situation is untenable, the vast majority of fans are totally keaned off with it all, strangely I felt more angry today than I did when we got relegated, it was a spontaneous anger which came out if no where. Very weird feeling.

Anyway I feel that come may when we haven't gone up then they will sell the club.

[Reedy You're A Star]

Surely no-one can be as bad as this lot? Out of interest, does anyone know what is going on with the 2 Ian's ambitions for buying the club? Is it a realistic option, if the Loons would be willing to sell?

[chris_h]

Pitiful.

How you consistently strive to defend our pathetic owners is quite simply stunning.

Go on, give me a two paragraph tedious diatribe in response.

You show as much compassion to your fellow Rovers fans as our idiotic owners do to their paying, immensely @#/? off, customers.

Lets not mess about here Imy. They have failed on every single level. They need to go. A For Sale sign needs to go up. They will never succeed at Ewood. Utterly clueless and totally bereft of any semblance of class and taste. Their decision making is nothing short of negligent. i dread to think what passes for successful business people in India (their competitors must be really crap).

In short, they're an utter disgrace.

I've not always been in total agreement and I have often found myself on Imy's side of the debate but that, in my humble opinion, is a top quality post.

[beerwins]

I think that the relationship between the fans and the owners is broken to such an extent that it is unrepairable (all the fault of Venky's).

Current situation is untenable, the vast majority of fans are totally keaned off with it all, strangely I felt more angry today than I did when we got relegated, it was a spontaneous anger which came out if no where. Very weird feeling.

Anyway I feel that come may when we haven't gone up then they will sell the club.

While in the meantime we will be stuck with loads of overpaid mercenaries who care nothing for the club due to the whim of idiots handing out big contracts to crap players and not appointing the right man to lead them.

Bored of it all now......

[Kelbo]

Pitiful.

How you consistently strive to defend our pathetic owners is quite simply stunning.

Go on, give me a two paragraph tedious diatribe in response.

You show as much compassion to your fellow Rovers fans as our idiotic owners do to their paying, immensely @#/? off, customers.

Lets not mess about here Imy. They have failed on every single level. They need to go. A For Sale sign needs to go up. They will never succeed at Ewood. Utterly clueless and totally bereft of any semblance of class and taste. Their decision making is nothing short of negligent. i dread to think what passes for successful business people in India (their competitors must be really crap).

In short, they're an utter disgrace.

As a Friend of mine who is of Indian descent said, Venkys are an embarrassment and disgrace to their country !!

[Tom]

Just seen Abbey giving it both barrels on the football league show

[Ozz]

Current situation is untenable, the vast majority of fans are totally keaned off with it all, strangely I felt more angry today than I did when we got relegated, it was a spontaneous anger which came out if no where. Very weird feeling.

That's the second time I have heard that tonight. Quite odd.

[BlueMonday]

Never return you f@cking idiots.

[chaddyrovers]

Well ard. Whoever threw the snowballs must be proud. I'm sure it will go viral and then we'll be talked to like scum again.

exactly Ste.

some people have no respect for people whether you like them or not. U dont start throwing snowballs at them. the people who did this are totally idiots.

who is really buy Blackburn Rovers??? who realistically got the cash to buy Rovers???

The Rovers trust is great idea and I personally back the idea of fans owning part of the club like Swansea fans do of 20% and having a fan on the board but most fans do not have the kind of money needed to put into the football club like Jack Walker.

maybe the 2 Ian's and their group might look again at approach the Venkys to buy Rovers.

[Tyke87]

So we had a whole thread of people saying the lad who called ckr a bellend deserved a punch but now the guy who throws a snowball in a strangers face is fine. I know if a stranger threw a snowball in my face id consider it more worthy of a punch than being called a name. Funny these double standards.

[booth]

If you don't want things throwing at you, don't go being careless with things that other people care deeply about.

[greco]

If you don't want things throwing at you, don't go being careless with things that other people care deeply about.

exactly.

all this about respect, how would you feel if it was your dad or whatever, is completely retarded. What the V lovers conviently forget, is the utter disrespect, contempt and chaos, that the V´s have caused. People lost their job and big chunk of their money as a result, The club the fans have followed, have been ripped apart, so the V´s have ruined something other care deeply about. If i had been the cause of that, i´d gladly accept a snowball in the face. I´d even expect it, i´d actually expect worse. They got of lucky.!

[arbitro]

True ... but my point to Mr Naive was that the negativity of the crowd would start regardless of the performance on the pitch. The Darwen End obliged at approximately 3:02.

But our best period of the game was in the first 10-15 minutes. Charltons first goal was catalyst for many players to feel sorry for themselves. I can't honestly understand how any negativity in the crowd should affect the players. Did the crowd influence Rochina to make so many wrong decisions, CKR to be a lazy lump, Olssen to simply not be arsed, Murphy to give the ball away so often...........I could go on. Quite simply the players were over confident and their attitude from the first minute was awful.

A perfect example of what our club has become was at half time when Charlton put their substitutes through a proper co-ordinated warm up. Our players kicked a ball around, looked bored and uninterested and then the more useless Olssen went in goal whilst shots were fired towards him.

[chris_h]

To be honest I thought it was pretty mild. There are clubs up and down the land where they would have been in serious physical danger for turning up the way they did yesterday.

I don't advocate violence but there can be no pretending that they don't know that they are hated anymore and no pretending that they don't know why they are hated.

Besides, what's not to laugh at when a snooty, upper caste middle aged bloke exits a Roller and cops a snowball in the mush? Gold.

Just a shame it wasn't that @#/? thing he's married to.

[Stuart]

True ... but my point to Mr Naive was that the negativity of the crowd would start regardless of the performance on the pitch. The Darwen End obliged at approximately 3:02.

There are some wind-up merchants on this board but you really are a master baiter.

[imy9]

Lets not mess about here Imy. They have failed on every single level. They need to go. A For Sale sign needs to go up. They will never succeed at Ewood. Utterly clueless and totally bereft of any semblance of class and taste. Their decision making is nothing short of negligent. i dread to think what passes for successful business people in India (their competitors must be really crap).

In short, they're an utter disgrace.

Edited your post for you-agree 100%, but please continue your diatribe. I thought it was classless hitting people with snowballs, hadn't realised i was defending the owners and in turn was showing contempt towards all the fans.

I just wish people realise that all of us are different in how we deal with things, does not make us less passionate about the club and most I think want the Raos to leave.

[Paul]

I think that the relationship between the fans and the owners is broken to such an extent that it is unrepairable (all the fault of Venky's).

Current situation is untenable, the vast majority of fans are totally keaned off with it all, strangely I felt more angry today than I did when we got relegated, it was a spontaneous anger which came out if no where. Very weird feeling.

Anyway I feel that come may when we haven't gone up then they will sell the club.

Yesterday was my worst ever day as a Rover. I haven't seen as much as some of you but I've had my fair share of highs and lows. Charlton at home will go down as the day the club died for me.

I managed to find the self-control to stay off this board last night and I'm really glad I did as I may have embarrassed myself. I can't explain what happened, it was pretty much a normal match day, obviously there was a new manager and the owners were in town but that doesn't make a lot of difference.

I sat with preston blue who asked me if I was coming on Tuesday - I didn't know we were playing Brighton. Later Todd Kane is MOTM and I didn't realise he was on the pitch. Those two things bothered me as they illustrated how little attention I pay to the daily goings on at Ewood now. As "cheerio" rang out from the DE, preston blue and I rose from our seats in the JW and let Venkys have it with both barrells, as I looked around me I realised it was just us, no one else, people were almost "tutting" at us. I would never tell other fans how to react but I couldn't quite believe it.

The players clearly couldn't care about the club or their performance. The manager stood stock still on the touchline for 90 minutes, at half-time he changed things around a bit and played the second half with his hands in his pockets.

Radio Rovers later came out with the same old hog wash, a complete and utter whitewash of what we see every week. Appleton interviewed on RR came out with some sensible words - I don't believe him, one game and I don't believe the manager - hope to be proved wrong on Tuesday.

Last night I felt completely devastated, it was like a family member had died, overwhelming. I don't know why but the last two years hit me like a train around 6.00pm.

I'm not going to forget Charlton Athletic, for me Rovers died at this game.

We will be there Tuesday. I don't want to go till Venkys leave but my son has to be there.

[Parsonblue]

I think that the relationship between the fans and the owners is broken to such an extent that it is unrepairable (all the fault of Venky's).

Current situation is untenable, the vast majority of fans are totally keaned off with it all, strangely I felt more angry today than I did when we got relegated, it was a spontaneous anger which came out if no where. Very weird feeling.

Anyway I feel that come may when we haven't gone up then they will sell the club.

I completely agree with regard to your feelings of anger towards this bunch of clowns who own us. My first game at Ewood was the opening day of 61-62 when we drew with Cardiff City in the old First Division. That season Cardiff were relegated and have spent the past 52 years playing outside of the top flight. Hopefully, that period of exile will end for them at the end of this season. However, Venky's may well have condemned generations of Rovers fans to a similar fate through their sheer incompetence. It is a sobering thought that thanks to this family a young man in his early 20s could well be in their 70s before they see the Rovers in the top flight again. For some of us, of a certain age, we may never experience top flight football at Ewood Park again. I think this family got off pretty lightly with a snowball in the face after doing their best to destroy the club I love. I now feel nothing but anger and hatred towards them and that, I fear, is never going to change.

If Venky's opt to bail out and sell one can only see another foreign owner stepping in and looking to make money from what is left of the club in the same way that Portsmouth was passed from owner to owner over the past few years. Sadly, one suspects that the havoc that Venky's have wrought upon the club may be something that we never recover from.

[Mike Graham]

I completely agree with regard to your feelings of anger towards this bunch of clowns who own us. My first game at Ewood was the opening day of 61-62 when we drew with Cardiff City in the old First Division. That season Cardiff were relegated and have spent the past 52 years playing outside of the top flight. Hopefully, that period of exile will end for them at the end of this season. However, Venky's may well have condemned generations of Rovers fans to a similar fate through their sheer incompetence. It is a sobering thought that thanks to this family a young man in his early 20s could well be in their 70s before they see the Rovers in the top flight again. For some of us, of a certain age, we may never experience top flight football at Ewood Park again. I think this family got off pretty lightly with a snowball in the face after doing their best to destroy the club I love. I now feel nothing but anger and hatred towards them and that, I fear, is never going to change.

If Venky's opt to bail out and sell one can only see another foreign owner stepping in and looking to make money from what is left of the club in the same way that Portsmouth was passed from owner to owner over the past few years. Sadly, one suspects that the havoc that Venky's have wrought upon the club may be something that we never recover from.

Ver sad but probably true PB. A most sobering post as no doubt your usually excellent match report will be.

Some say we have the Venkys, they are going nowhere, and just get on with supporting the team. I do not buy that bunkum.

There are others who will buy Rovers, of that there is no doubt. We must make the Venkys as unwelcome as possible with the hope that they sell and ship out ASAP.

[PAFELL]

Hope somebody knows how to get these into the indian media.

[Mike Graham]

Yesterday was my worst ever day as a Rover. I haven't seen as much as some of you but I've had my fair share of highs and lows. Charlton at home will go down as the day the club died for me.

I managed to find the self-control to stay off this board last night and I'm really glad I did as I may have embarrassed myself. I can't explain what happened, it was pretty much a normal match day, obviously there was a new manager and the owners were in town but that doesn't make a lot of difference.

I sat with preston blue who asked me if I was coming on Tuesday - I didn't know we were playing Brighton. Later Todd Kane is MOTM and I didn't realise he was on the pitch. Those two things bothered me as they illustrated how little attention I pay to the daily goings on at Ewood now. As "cheerio" rang out from the DE, preston blue and I rose from our seats in the JW and let Venkys have it with both barrells, as I looked around me I realised it was just us, no one else, people were almost "tutting" at us. I would never tell other fans how to react but I couldn't quite believe it.

The players clearly couldn't care about the club or their performance. The manager stood stock still on the touchline for 90 minutes, at half-time he changed things around a bit and played the second half with his hands in his pockets.

Radio Rovers later came out with the same old hog wash, a complete and utter whitewash of what we see every week. Appleton interviewed on RR came out with some sensible words - I don't believe him, one game and I don't believe the manager - hope to be proved wrong on Tuesday.

Last night I felt completely devastated, it was like a family member had died, overwhelming. I don't know why but the last two years hit me like a train around 6.00pm.

I'm not going to forget Charlton Athletic, for me Rovers died at this game.

We will be there Tuesday. I don't want to go till Venkys leave but my son has to be there.

Paul, one of the saddest posts I have read for a long time. How ever I share all your concerns. I am angry, very angry and must harness that against the owners and fools running the Club at local level.

[Paul]

I've just watched the two videos. I have to say the fans outside the ground were remarkably restrained, the Raos got off very lightly yesterday.

Turning up in a Rolls Royce plated R4AJA - have these people not one jot of common sense? Does no one advise them? A couple of black Mercs or Beamers would do the job. As for rolling up like royalty before the game, it's jaw dropping arrogance on their behalf. The Raos should have entered the ground quietly a couple of hours before kick off. Yesterday's behaviour on their part was disgusting, acting as though they were visting dignataries or heads of state!

[Ricky]

I love the positivity of people thinking we'll be sold to a shining knight in armour.

The majority of championship clubs are a far better investment than us. We're a far far less attractive option than we were when the walker trust sold us.

Also do you really think Venkys will just cut their losses and walk away with nothing? That's the only way someone might actually consider taking the club off them.

[Stuart]

As "cheerio" rang out from the DE, preston blue and I rose from our seats in the JW and let Venkys have it with both barrells, as I looked around me I realised it was just us, no one else, people were almost "tutting" at us. I would never tell other fans how to react but I couldn't quite believe it.

Tough post to read Paul (and it wasn't just the DE singing "cheerio") but I pick out this bit which resonated with me.

For a town the size of Blackburn, Rovers have punched above their weight on terms of league position, division and attendance for many years now.

Following Venkys utter arrogance, all of that has been swept away, with money thrown away in doing so. Their ineptness never ceases to amaze.

But what we are now seeing, whilst not civil war, is a battle between those who have had enough and those embittered 'self-styled hardcore' (e.g. Bright Spark) who will never see the wood for the trees (and don't want to).

Very soon, there will be sub-5000, and beyond that, maybe even crowds similar to Accrington Stanley.

Those sub-5000 types simply cannot understand why other supporters can't be like them. "Just get behind the team"; "the supporters are part of the problem"; "if we just back the manager and the players then we can win matches".

Perhaps they are afraid to vent their anger, due to social norms or some sense of lack of loyalty. Maybe they genuinely don't care what is happening to the club because "they'll be there no matter what"; perhaps "we're better off without all these lightweight plastic fans"; "they've no idea what it's really like to be in the third tier".

But we are on a downward spiral which won't stop until long after Venkys have gone. Then history will be re-written as "the fans took us here by driving Venkys away"; "it's all those 'fans' fault - and where are they now?"; "Destroyed our club and then left".

It's really sad but there will be people thinking and saying exactly this even as the Trust is rallying around trying to save the club.

Many fans in their 20s will only ever have known the Jack Walker era. Does it make them wrong that they blame Venkys for taking that success away from them?