[Archived] Middlesbrough could have won the cup

[DannyKeg]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-21340029

Perhaps the head teacher should also have pointed out, on the positive side, the phrase she highlighted showed commendable imaginative reasoning.

Anyway what's wrong with saying "nowt" and "shert" ?

Gumboots et al please discuss.

[yoda]

don't you mean

Middlesbrough could have won the cup,

but who cares

[Amo]

I hope BRAG are reading this.

Hiyoooo!

[jim mk2]

"could ov (eff)" - see it on here all the time.

[gumboots]

Never had a strong teesside accent. My dad went to a very good school on a scholarship and my mam prided herself on speaking well. Despite their both being from working class homes my parents insisted that we spoke well. Still have an accent but do not speak sloppily or make the kind of grammatical errors the head is talking about there. Use dialect words when they are the best words to describe things e.g.nithered,mafted etc but only when talking to people who would understand them. There's a world of difference between poor use of English and an accent or dialect. Married to a southener nowadays and over the years we've both adapted to one another's language.

[Lathund]

Using "should of" should be a criminal offense.

[Daniel Louis Grabko (Dan)]

Using "should of" should be a criminal offense.

+1 to that! Care for a fika sometime, Lathund? I work in Gothenburg.

[jim mk2]

Using "should of" should be a criminal offense.

So should using the American version of "offense".

No criticism intended as I don't know any Swedish words beyond Ikea.

[yoda]

don't you mean

Middlesbrough could of won the cup,

but who cares

how does my post show have when it is actually written as of, have the mods been clever again with word replacement?

[LeChuck]

Using "should of" should be a criminal offense.

I completely dismiss anything written using that mistake (or similar using "could","would" etc). I can't find any excuse for it. It just looks wrong.

As we're on a football board, a VERY common one is using "beat" instead of "beaten".

[yoda]

I completely dismiss anything written using that mistake (or similar using "could","would" etc). I can't find any excuse for it. It just looks wrong.

As we're on a football board, a VERY common one is using "beat" instead of "beaten".

When you start looking there are many words that are used incorrectly, there have been many a discussion in various threads about the state of the written and spoken English language.

[Daniel Louis Grabko (Dan)]

So should using the American version of "offense".

No criticism intended as I don't know any Swedish words beyond Ikea.

Ha ha ha what about using 'ize' instead of 'ise'? How about having a generally long, slow and excruciatingly irritating accent, or using the word 'pop' when referring to a soft drink?

[Lathund]

+1 to that! Care for a fika sometime, Lathund? I work in Gothenburg.

Sure. Maybe even find some pub with Sky some time when Rovers are playing? I won't be very much in Gothenburg over the coming weeks though, so it'll be a while I guess.

So should using the American version of "offense".

No criticism intended as I don't know any Swedish words beyond Ikea.

Which isn't even a word, it's an acronym It stands for Ingvar Kamprad Elmtaryd Agunnaryd. Ingvar Kamprad being the name of the founder, while Elmtaryd is the farm he grew up on, and Agunnaryd his nearby hometown.

Smorgasbord (Or Smörgåsbord) and Ombudsman are proper Swedish words, some of the very few we've successfully exported to English. Not counting ones adopted from Norse.

[Mike E]

Ha ha ha what about using 'ize' instead of 'ise'? How about having a generally long, slow and excruciatingly irritating accent, or using the word 'pop' when referring to a soft drink?

Tbf, pop is a British thing, right back to the 1940's at least. 'ize' is just yanks being idiots.

[jim mk2]

Which isn't even a word, it's an acronym It stands for Ingvar Kamprad Elmtaryd Agunnaryd. Ingvar Kamprad being the name of the founder, while Elmtaryd is the farm he grew up on, and Agunnaryd his nearby hometown.

Just remembered another Swedish word - Abba. Are all Swedish words acronyms ?

[Plastics]

I completely dismiss anything written using that mistake (or similar using "could","would" etc). I can't find any excuse for it. It just looks wrong.

As we're on a football board, a VERY common one is using "beat" instead of "beaten".

It's fortunate that uneducated people have never come up with anything important then isn't it... oh wait, yes they have.

Grammar isn't everything. I understand being annoyed by it but to dismiss an entire statement based on one error is ludicrous and counter-productive.

[yoda]

It's fortunate that uneducated people have never come up with anything important then isn't it... oh wait, yes they have.

Grammar isn't everything. I understand being annoyed by it but to dismiss an entire statement based on one error is ludicrous and counter-productive.

The grammar police are going to on the prowle again

Ha ha ha what about using 'ize' instead of 'ise'? How about having a generally long, slow and excruciatingly irritating accent, or using the word 'pop' when referring to a soft drink?

How about rice crispies,

they go snap crackle and pop,

or not as the case may be

I am sure there are words in use in your country that would baffle an outsider as they are probably used out of context in certain cases

[gumboots]

Sure. Maybe even find some pub with Sky some time when Rovers are playing? I won't be very much in Gothenburg over the coming weeks though, so it'll be a while I guess.

Which isn't even a word, it's an acronym It stands for Ingvar Kamprad Elmtaryd Agunnaryd. Ingvar Kamprad being the name of the founder, while Elmtaryd is the farm he grew up on, and Agunnaryd his nearby hometown.

Smorgasbord (Or Smörgåsbord) and Ombudsman are proper Swedish words, some of the very few we've successfully exported to English. Not counting ones adopted from Norse.

Interestingly the dialect words I mentioned earlier, in common usage in north east england when i was a kid are directly descended from old norse as spoken by the vikings who raided our shores and whose genes still linger in many families.

[Daniel Louis Grabko (Dan)]

The grammar police are going to on the prowle again

How about rice crispies,

they go snap crackle and pop,

or not as the case may be

I am sure there are words in use in your country that would baffle an outsider as they are probably used out of context in certain cases

Very true yoda, I was trying to be light hearted here. In the southern states of the USA if you go to a restaurant, they ask you if you want a coke. They then ask you what kind, i.e. Sprite, Coca-Cola, Orange soda, etc.

Language is extremely interesting because it is so fluid and constantly changing over the course of even short periods of time - origins of certain words or usages have sprung up independently of each other in many cases, it is entertaining to hear different people relate the origin of usage as they know it from around the world, especially with a language as widespread around the world like English.

Lathund, let me know when you might be available, would be fun! My old local pub in Gothenburg has Sky, just a hundred metres or so up the hill from Redbergsplatsen, and they have a half decent burger as well. I think we are playing the next 4 Tuesday evenings in a row, as well as Saturdays, so lots of dates to choose from!

[Stuart]

Language is extremely interesting because it is so fluid and constantly changing over the course of even short periods of time

Whilst I agree, let's hope "of" never replaces "have"!

[Daniel Louis Grabko (Dan)]

Whilst I agree, let's hope "of" never replaces "have"!

That I can 100% agree with, Stuart