[Archived] Noisy neighbours?

[Amo]

For awhile now there's been a particularly nasty piece of work who lives the next door down from my parents. Everything about the guy is loud. If it's not slamming car doors at all hours, then it's loud music, revving up motors with big fatass exhausts, cutting up scrap out front with his saw, and even his voice is like a bloody foghorn! Oh, and for a 40-something bloke most of his mates are chavvy boy-racers, so there's even more noise when they come around.

What with my parents getting on in years and my father being terminally ill, they really don't have the tolerance for it anymore and personally I don't think they should be subject to it. Will contacting the local council even be worth it? I've heard they ask you to record a 'noise diary' for god knows how long and then they *might* do something about it, like send out a nansy-pansy letter. Another problem is that the noise is intermittent. It's not like say, someone who has garage music blaring from dusk till dawn, which would be easier for an inspector to catch. Although, I do have a good idea who their landlord is, so would it perhaps be easier to go straight to them? And before anyone says "Just have a quiet word", trust me, he's been made aware of it but he simply doesn't give two figs. In fact, he finds it all quite amusing.

[DanLad]

The landlord might be a good route. Some tenancy agreements have terms that you have to keep noise reasonable or it can result in eviction!

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

There's othing worse than having bad, noisy neighbours. I had to move away from mine in the end. I'm afraid that doesn't help your parents though.

[T.J.Newton]

For awhile now there's been a particularly nasty piece of work who lives the next door down from my parents. Everything about the guy is loud. If it's not slamming car doors at all hours, then it's loud music, revving up motors with big fatass exhausts, cutting up scrap out front with his saw, and even his voice is like a bloody foghorn! Oh, and for a 40-something bloke most of his mates are chavvy boy-racers, so there's even more noise when they come around.

What with my parents getting on in years and my father being terminally ill, they really don't have the tolerance for it anymore and personally I don't think they should be subject to it. Will contacting the local council even be worth it? I've heard they ask you to record a 'noise diary' for god knows how long and then they *might* do something about it, like send out a nansy-pansy letter. Another problem is that the noise is intermittent. It's not like say, someone who has garage music blaring from dusk till dawn, which would be easier for an inspector to catch. Although, I do have a good idea who their landlord is, so would it perhaps be easier to go straight to them? And before anyone says "Just have a quiet word", trust me, he's been made aware of it but he simply doesn't give two figs. In fact, he finds it all quite amusing.

If your parents or the moron neighbor are in a TwinValley property, then its definitely worth contacting them, they are usually very on the ball with these kind of things and have set procedures in place to tackle these issues, Also they will do a good job of keeping the actual complainants anonymous.

In the meantime it is important that you(your parents) keep simple records and times of anything that upsets them(even if its just minor things like raised voices, swearing)

Sorry, just realized you didn't state where your parents live(i initially assumed Blackburn), Twin Valley homes are the social housing association in Blackburn that own and run most of the social housing homes and areas(basically most of blackburn), id assume most towns have an equivalent too them(though I'm not sure they'd all be as well run)

[Andy]

If a private landlord. definitely go to them.

If there's anything about them, they will threaten to/evict the problem neighbour.

A few years ago, when living in a rough place for a short time (Rishton, ha!), I had some proper scrotes evicted from next door to me, thanks to their very nice landlady.

[T.J.Newton]

I imagine private landlords could be very unpredictable, they could be very helpful and professional or they could just fob you of tell you what you want too here but then just tell the Tennant's you have been telling tales on them(which could really heighten the situation).

[Amo]

If a private landlord. definitely go to them.

If there's anything about them, they will threaten to/evict the problem neighbour.

A few years ago, when living in a rough place for a short time (Rishton, ha!), I had some proper scrotes evicted from next door to me, thanks to their very nice landlady.

I believe it's Guinness Hermitage, who are the main "social housing" group around here.

Luckily enough I deal with them at work, so I might call 'em tomorrow and inquire about making an official complaint.

[T.J.Newton]

I believe it's Guinness Hermitage, who are the main "social housing" group around here.

Luckily enough I deal with them at work, so I might call 'em tomorrow and inquire about making an official complaint.

If their like Twin valley, they may have complaint forms that can be esily filled out on there website.

[Stuart]

This kind of thing can be a nightmare. My wife's grandmother had similar problems. It can be misery making - especially if it's preventing sleep for instance. With the kind of person you are describing - including entourage - any attempt to reason with them is usually met with abuse and/or threats. (That's not stereotyping, it's experience).

A neighbour of hers who was a little younger but still in his 50s had enough of it and phoned the landlord. Basically said to him, unless you do something about it, every time he wakes me up, I'll be waking you up - even if I have to drive round to your house and bang on your door.

A bit drastic but it did work in the end - eventually the tenant moved out.

Funny how renters seem to make more effort to be antisocial than homeowners. I guess they have less respect and less to lose. They'll just move elsewhere.

[T.J.Newton]

This kind of thing can be a nightmare. My wife's grandmother had similar problems. It can be misery making - especially if it's preventing sleep for instance. With the kind of person you are describing - including entourage - any attempt to reason with them is usually met with abuse and/or threats. (That's not stereotyping, it's experience).

A neighbour of hers who was a little younger but still in his 50s had enough of it and phoned the landlord. Basically said to him, unless you do something about it, every time he wakes me up, I'll be waking you up - even if I have to drive round to your house and bang on your door.

A bit drastic but it did work in the end - eventually the tenant moved out.

Funny how renters seem to make more effort to be antisocial than homeowners. I guess they have less respect and less to lose. They'll just move elsewhere.

Everything you say sounds is good, other than that final sentance which i personally find to be a bit ignorent(and also abit snobbish), sorry , its more down to the fact that the individual causing the problems being a natural born bleep, than their housing situation.

[Stuart]

Everything you say sounds is good, other than that final sentance which i personally find to be a bit ignorent(and also abit snobbish), sorry , its more down to the fact that the individual causing the problems being a natural born bleep, than their housing situation.

I can only give you my opinion based on experience.

No doubt there are some great people who rent. I've not come across many noisy obnoxious home owners.

Maybe I've just been lucky.

[T.J.Newton]

I can only give you my opinion based on experience.

No doubt there are some great people who rent. I've not come across many noisy obnoxious home owners.

Maybe I've just been lucky.

well i live(and rent) on an estate with hundreds(maybe over a thousand)'renters' and can probably count on one hand the persistent trouble makers(and a couple of those are homeowners that the council/twin valley can do little about because they are homeowners.

Ive also been an homeowner and found that the area i was living in was exactly the same, as i say its more down to the individual, the fact there just renting is more likely just down to there lack of finance, ect... And also very young people are more likely to be renting and most problems they cause are just down to immaturity.

[Stuart]

well i live(and rent) on an estate with hundreds of renters and can prob count on one hand the trouble makers

I could give you a smart arse response to that but I won't.

[T.J.Newton]

I could give you a smart arse response to that but I won't.

feel free

(Although i feel it would be more yawn!!!, predictable and again showing you have a snobbish attitude towards social housing and rental areas than "smart")

[Stuart]

feel free

(Although i feel it would be more yawn!!!, predictable and again showing you have a snobbish attitude towards social housing and rental areas than "smart")

Trust me, I'm not a snob.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

This kind of thing can be a nightmare. My wife's grandmother had similar problems. It can be misery making - especially if it's preventing sleep for instance. With the kind of person you are describing - including entourage - any attempt to reason with them is usually met with abuse and/or threats. (That's not stereotyping, it's experience).

A neighbour of hers who was a little younger but still in his 50s had enough of it and phoned the landlord. Basically said to him, unless you do something about it, every time he wakes me up, I'll be waking you up - even if I have to drive round to your house and bang on your door.

A bit drastic but it did work in the end - eventually the tenant moved out.

Funny how renters seem to make more effort to be antisocial than homeowners. I guess they have less respect and less to lose. They'll just move elsewhere.

A pal of mine did the same thing. The landlord who had rented house the house next door to him lived about 200 yards away on the same quite nice private estate. After being woken about 2.30 in the morning by his neighbours for the umpteenth time he marched around to the landlord's house and banged on his door until the landlord came to the door. He said - " Do something about the people you've rented that house to or every time they wake me up I'll come around here and wake you up ! ". They were gone within a month !

[T.J.Newton]

Trust me, I'm not a snob.

maybe not in general, but on this issue you seem to have a poor view of the majority of people that rent(especially those on council/social housing areas)

[Stuart]

maybe not in general, but on this issue you seem to have a poor view of the majority of people that rent(especially those on council/social housing areas)

Now you're just putting words in my mouth because I've hit a nerve.

But using your term:

"The majority of people in my experience who are nuisance neighbours, rent."

That is not the same as - "all renters are nuisance neighbours".

Stop being obtuse.

[T.J.Newton]

no sorry I'm not avin that( ), You did say "No doubt there are some great people who rent. I've not come across many noisy obnoxious home owners", i think thats pretty damning and by saying "some" that means you consider them to be in the minority by my reading.

but i think we are both getting picky just for arguments sake, so i do apologize, I'm not helping with Amarillo's question.

[Stuart]

no sorry I'm not avin that( ), You did say "No doubt there are some great people who rent. I've not come across many noisy obnoxious home owners", i think thats pretty damning and by saying "some" that means you consider them to be in the minority by my reading.

but i think we are both getting picky just for arguments sake, so i do apologize, I'm not helping with Amarillo's question.

You've definitely read too much into it, fella.

But if I've offended you I too apologise.

[T.J.Newton]

You've definitely read too much into it, fella.

But if I've offended you I too apologies.

Don't worry mi old lad, nothing Ive ever read on an Internet forum has ever offended me, hahaha(mildly irritates at most), i think its fair to say most people(including myself at times) just become caricatures of themselves when posting on the net.

[USABlue]

For awhile now there's been a particularly nasty piece of work who lives the next door down from my parents. Everything about the guy is loud. If it's not slamming car doors at all hours, then it's loud music, revving up motors with big fatass exhausts, cutting up scrap out front with his saw, and even his voice is like a bloody foghorn! Oh, and for a 40-something bloke most of his mates are chavvy boy-racers, so there's even more noise when they come around.

What with my parents getting on in years and my father being terminally ill, they really don't have the tolerance for it anymore and personally I don't think they should be subject to it. Will contacting the local council even be worth it? I've heard they ask you to record a 'noise diary' for god knows how long and then they *might* do something about it, like send out a nansy-pansy letter. Another problem is that the noise is intermittent. It's not like say, someone who has garage music blaring from dusk till dawn, which would be easier for an inspector to catch. Although, I do have a good idea who their landlord is, so would it perhaps be easier to go straight to them? And before anyone says "Just have a quiet word", trust me, he's been made aware of it but he simply doesn't give two figs. In fact, he finds it all quite amusing.

That's why I live where I do, the noisiest thing around here are the Bulls when they are hot for a cow or the Coyotes howling at night. I am sorry for your folks plight and hope it gets resolved, people are just so self centered anymore.

[Stuart]

I do have another question.

What is it that makes young blokes (or even in some cases middle aged men) sit in their cars outside their house revving the engines of their souped up small cars as loud as they can? What joy do they get out of it?

[Kamy100]

I do have another question.

What is it that makes young blokes (or even in some cases middle aged men) sit in their cars outside their house revving the engines of their souped up small cars as loud as they can? What joy do they get out of it?

It makes them feel like that they are living in some sort of "ghetto" and that they are kings of their "turf".

[perthblue02]

I do have another question.

What is it that makes young blokes (or even in some cases middle aged men) sit in their cars outside their house revving the engines of their souped up small cars as loud as they can? What joy do they get out of it?

usually drugs and extremely small penis, lots of em over here with Vauxhalls (ha ha ha) with faulty exhausts and vans without back roofs on them, hanging out with their hommies (friends from college) ,all wearing the latest overhyped nike boots that they "liberated" (bought by their dad for Christmas) listening to some middle class college drop out singing about life in "da hood" (5 mill mansion in bel air) before going back to their "crib" (mums house) to smack their Hoe (@#/? over internet porn or could be a bit of gardening)

Unfortunately the American influence is widespread, and these are the modern equivalent of the idiots who dress up and think they are cowboys in any country that has no history of cowboys.