[Archived] Gary Bowyer

[RibbleValleyRover]

It's all relative chaddy.

Hughes or Bowyer? Hughes

Bowyer or Murphy? Bowyer

If Bowyer is in charge next season, it's cos we can't afford/attract better.

This.

Venky's might as well admit they have no desire to get back into the big time i.e. the Premier League. A lot can happen in football so you can't rule anything completely out but I cannot see Rovers getting near and achieving promotion with Bowyer in charge. Stats from a small sample size might argue differently but from seeing the performances so far I don't think he's the right guy at all long term.

Should we really be splashing out on a very good, expensive high profile manager whilst in this league, many teams in recent years have shown you only need a good manager to get out of this league(and so far Bowyers record alone says he's at least that).

Getting promotion out of this league is not easy, very few managers achieve it. I would take an experienced manager with a history of promotion at the cost of a lesser transfer budget in a heartbeat.

[chaddyrovers]

I think Bowyer would get us into the playoffs next season if he is allow to do it his way without any interfere from above.

been in charge of 10 league games and won 5 games, draw 3 and lost 2. thats 18 points and without them we would be down for sure

[Amo]

Just give it to Bowyer, already. Shebby, Shagnew & Venky's in general couldn't spot a decent manager if they were locked in a cell with Fergie, Cloughie & Mourinho.

[chaddyrovers]

would any fans been happy about with McLeish or McClaren as next manager????

or Karl Robinson or Paul Dickov?

[T.J.Newton]

This.

Venky's might as well admit they have no desire to get back into the big time i.e. the Premier League. A lot can happen in football so you can't rule anything completely out but I cannot see Rovers getting near and achieving promotion with Bowyer in charge. Stats from a small sample size might argue differently but from seeing the performances so far I don't think he's the right guy at all long term.

Getting promotion of this league is not easy, very few managers achieve it. I would take an experienced manager with a history of promotion at the cost of a lesser transfer budget in a heartbeat.

I never said it was easy, just that you don't really need a high profile, expensive premiere league quality manager(ie. hughes) to do it as has been proved in recent years, just a good, smart, reliable one with experience in this league, that can get the best out of the players available and keep them motivated(all boxes Bowyer now ticks to a certain extent!).

[rovers11]

Here's an interesting point, if Bowyer doesn't get the managers job at Rovers surely he'll be snapped up by another club as manager. Could see quite a few lge 1 teams wanting him as manager.

[chaddyrovers]

Bowyer comments after game to BBC Radio Lancs

http://audioboo.fm/boos/1357215

he wants this job.

[Stuart]

Chaddy, check out Ricky Sbragia's stats.

It's one thing being a coach who the players like and pull their tripe out for but once they get the job permanently that wanes and reality sets in. Or in Murphy's case, rigor mortis.

[Gally]

Chaddy, check out Ricky Sbragia's stats.

It's one thing being a coach who the players like and pull their tripe out for but once they get the job permanently that wanes and reality sets in. Or in Murphy's case, rigor mortis.

That's the fear for me too. Nothing but admiration and gratitude for what Bowyer's achieved in tough circumstances, but it'd still be an enormus risk to give him the job full time.

[joey_big_nose]

Hmm.... I am not convinced getting in a 'name' like Hughes will actually be more likely to get us up than sticking with Bowyer. Bit of a weird thing to say, but if Venkys are in charge we know they will constantly undermine the manager and make it very difficult for them to succeed.

Bowyer knows the environment and seems to handle it well perhaps due to his long term connections and understanding of the club. I don't think there are many, even major experienced managers, who can do it. Hughes and Redknapp both went into difficult boardroom situations at QPR and failed with excellent squads at their disposal.

Plus who of any quality is actually going to want the job due to our shyte owners? Hughes certainly won't. I don't think any established names will really unless we bring them in by offering huge salaries. And then they will be at Rovers for the wrong reasons, not dedicated to the cause.

I would back Boyer, up his salary in line with others in the Championship and give him free reign to decide how to shape the football side of the club, including bringing in experienced support.

The focus should be on getting Venkys out. Then, and only then, can we actually push on in a meaningful structured way.

[chaddyrovers]

Chaddy, check out Ricky Sbragia's stats.

It's one thing being a coach who the players like and pull their tripe out for but once they get the job permanently that wanes and reality sets in. Or in Murphy's case, rigor mortis.

each person/coach is different.

He is worth giving a chance to him.

Adkins was a physio at Scuthorpe before getting the Manager job there and get them promote then get Southampton back to back promotion to the PL.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Adkins

and McDermott was chief scout at Reading before getting them promote in a couple of seasons to the PL.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_McDermott_(footballer)

and others managers(not going to named every one btw) have failed.

got to judge each person on their merit. he has done an excellent so far. wonder where we would be if Gary Bowyer would have been left in charge instead of appointing Appleton? playoffs? mid table/top 10 for sure

[Roverthechimp]

It does not require a big name boss to get promotion. I think the clamour for a big name is partially to do with the idea that a big name boss would sort out the mess behind the scenes, something that is far from guaranteed. Personally i think Bowyer has earned a shot and would be happy with him as boss for next season.

[martonrover]

No manager has any chance of success with the chaos going on amongst the club hierachy.

The original poisoned chalice.

[chaddyrovers]

Adkins, McDermott or Mackey arent big names manager but knows how to play in the championship and what types of players you need in the championship league

[Amo]

No manager has any chance of success with the chaos going on amongst the club hierachy.

The original poisoned chalice.

People still speak like we're a normal, well-run football club that will have its pick of quality managers, nevermind a board-room with the good sense to hire them. We are not any of those things. In all probability, Bowyer will get found out once he becomes full-time manager. But what's the alternative? Keep hammering the 'we need an experienced manager' line that we've saying for nigh on two years and has been routinely overlooked by the Punatics? Out of all the managers (caretaker or otherwise) that have been employed under Venky's age of darkness, Bowyer has been head & shoulders the best of a sorry bunch, and that was purely by accident. Based on what we've learned so far, what leads people to think Venky's would seriously consider a manager with a proven track record? There's too many conflicts of interest within the club and the manager hunt will only pave the way for more political infighting at Rovers expense. Gary seems to be a neutral choice, he's respected by the players, he's getting results (which is more than can be said for his predecessors), and has managed to deal with the media sideshow. Under ordinary circumstances, I would be campaigning for a proper manager but as I stated in the outset, these aren't ordinary times.

[chaddyrovers]

People still speak like we're a normal, well-run football club that will have its pick of quality managers, nevermind a board-room with the good sense to hire them. We are not any of those things. In all probability, Bowyer will get found out once he becomes full-time manager. But what's the alternative? Keep hammering the 'we need an experienced manager' line that we've saying for nigh on two years and has been routinely overlooked by the Punatics? Out of all the managers (caretaker or otherwise) that have been employed under Venky's age of darkness, Bowyer has been head & shoulders the best of a sorry bunch, and that was purely by accident. Based on what we've learned so far, what leads people to think Venky's would seriously consider a manager with a proven track record? There's too many conflicts of interest within the club and the manager hunt will only pave the way for more political infighting at Rovers expense. Gary seems to be a neutral choice, he's respected by the players, he's getting results (which is more than can be said for his predecessors), and has managed to deal with the media sideshow. Under ordinary circumstances, I would be campaigning for a proper manager but as I stated in the outset, these aren't ordinary times.

would you be happy with an apoointment of McClaren or McLeish then???

what happens if new owners like Seneca and rovers trust appoint Bowyer as next manager then?

just think Bowyer deserve a chance to see if you can get us promote next season?

[roverandout]

do you have a hard-on for bowyer chaddy?

[rovers11]

Personally, I think he deserves a shot at at full time. And I think he will get that chance. Done incredibly well. Don't think anyone would begrudge him getting the job and it would actually be a sensible decision for once.

[chaddyrovers]

do you have a hard-on for bowyer chaddy?

tit!!! thats why I have your post hidden cos of Stupid Pathetic comments

did you even go to the game today or any games at all?

[roverandout]

yes i would, dont think we should be taking the risk on another 'maybe' and i will lose all respect for him if he takes the job, he should know that by now we should be going for experience if he has the best interests of the club at heart if not hes just another chancer looking for a big payrise, just another steve kean!!!

sorry chaddy, no offence just wondering why you are so obsessed with bowyer

[Amo]

would you be happy with an apoointment of McClaren or McLeish then???

I think both are spent forces, tbh. I'll say this for Schteve, at least he had the decency to resign at Forest and not sue them for "constructive dismissal".

what happens if new owners like Seneca and rovers trust appoint Bowyer as next manager then?

You've made a few leaps to get there, chaddy.

[K-Hod]

yes i would, dont think we should be taking the risk on another 'maybe' and i will lose all respect for him if he takes the job, he should know that by now we should be going for experience if he has the best interests of the club at heart if not hes just another chancer looking for a big payrise, just another steve kean!!!

sorry chaddy, no offence just wondering why you are so obsessed with bowyer

Pretty harsh is the bit in bold.....

[chaddyrovers]

yes i would, dont think we should be taking the risk on another 'maybe' and i will lose all respect for him if he takes the job, he should know that by now we should be going for experience if he has the best interests of the club at heart if not hes just another chancer looking for a big payrise, just another steve kean!!!

sorry chaddy, no offence just wondering why you are so obsessed with bowyer

Gary Bowyer is nothing like Steve Kean and people like Kamy, Glen Mullan, etc have/will back this up!!!!!!!!

GB is a top man and does have the best interest at heart for rovers and you would know this if you met him.

[roverandout]

you have to look at the facts hod, cant begrudge someone looking for a big rise but for me he should stick to the reserves for now and let managers manage

[Stuart]

Gary Bowyer is nothing like Steve Kean and people like Kamy, Glen Mullan, etc have/will back this up!!!!!!!!

GB is a top man and does have the best interest at heart for rovers and you would know this if you met him.

Playing devil's advocate, a lot of fans spoke very highly of Kean - a really nice guy once you met him.