[Archived] Gary Bowyer

[Jimmy612]

and how long is this going to take tbh??? sacking people and appointing new members of the board will take weeks at least 6 weeks IMO.

we need to appoint the manager whoever this is within in the next 3 weeks for me. cos the manager need to sort of pre season, friendly games and sort out the playing squad plus bring in staff whether its Bowyer as manager or whoever.

the season starts on 3rd August, so the players will be back Mid June till give them 6 weeks of training before the Championship season starts

Good post Chaddy. I said to a group of chaps in the pub this afternoon that it will be an extremely interesting summer. Boardroom changes? Managerial appointments? Players ins/outs?

Or what are the odds that we begin next season exactly how we are now? Same clowns upstairs, Bowyer completely on his own and Danny Murphy, Dixon Etuhu et al pissing up the clubs leg.

Obviously Venkys are not to be trusted. Their courtroom tales of a boardroom shake up are probably as likely as me turning to cricket as my Saturday afternoon entertainment.

Question for all.... IF (and what a big if it is) Bowyer is asked respectfully to return to youth team coach or even presented the opportunity to be first team coach/ assistant manager, then who is everyone's personal choice for manager?

Colin keaner? Can't stand the man but he's a safe pair of hands.

Hughesy? Dream return but has he lost his touch?

Karl Robinson?

Add your suggestions here....

Or is this all pointless waffle as Venkys will continue to ignorantly tear apart our proud institution, with inexperienced appointments, moronic boardroom civil war and a completely unbalanced squad.

I personally pray (somewhat stupidly) that these people can take hold of the situation and at least take some good advice from honest individuals with the best intentions of BRFC at heart. I would love to be excited come mid-August. Unfortunately I think I will be so,e what disappointed.

[pick32]

I'd give him the job, last thing we need is some new manager who hasn't seen us play all season and builds a team around the bigger names like Pedersen Robinson, murphy and etuhu.

You need good team spirit and momentum to get out of this league not a strict manager like Appleton, the players want to play for bowyer and he has proved his worth. He has over achieved with the reserves every year the only thing i would be worried about is transfers.

[den]

I'd give him the job, last thing we need is some new manager who hasn't seen us play all season and builds a team around the bigger names like Pedersen Robinson, murphy and etuhu.

You need good team spirit and momentum to get out of this league not a strict manager like Appleton, the players want to play for bowyer and he has proved his worth. He has over achieved with the reserves every year the only thing i would be worried about is transfers.

Could you tell me what his record in the transfer market is like - both ins and outs please, Pick?

[West Yorks Rover]

Unless there are big changes at boardroom level and above, this club will not make any progress on the playing side

whoever is appointed manager.

[pick32]

Could you tell me what his record in the transfer market is like - both ins and outs please, Pick?

No that's why I said in my post Id be worried about it.

[T4E]

Could you tell me what his record in the transfer market is like - both ins and outs please, Pick?

As fate would have it, its pretty much identical to Mark Hughes before he took over at Rovers.

[den]

As fate would have it, its pretty much identical to Mark Hughes before he took over at Rovers.

So the answer is that he has no record of dealing in the transfer market - but that doesn't matter. Why doesn't it matter?

[Lytham]

"Oh for Gods sake PLEASE not again (head in hands) have we learnt nothing?"

It's the exact opposite.

It's those who have seen the appointment of Kean, Berg and Appleton and still believe that Venkys will appoint a good experienced manager who have learnt nothing.

Bowyer is nothing like Kean and came in under very different circumstances and did a great job. He may not turn out to be the answer, there are no guarantees in life. But he must be a better bet than trusting Shebby Singh to come up with a decent choice.

Actual measurable observable results suggest so.

[T4E]

No Den, I never said it didn't matter. I am just pointing out to you that not having experience in that area doesn't mean he'll fail in it. Just like Hughes didnt. Every single manager who is decent in the transfer market started with no experience.

[chaddyrovers]

Could you tell me what his record in the transfer market is like - both ins and outs please, Pick?

wasnt it Bowyer who brought in Todd Kane on loan the first time around.

the Bowyer would bring in young talented players(under 25's) to the rovers if he get the job permanent.

but the biggest problems is getting rid of the deadwood/not wanted players from the squad.

we are going to have massive overhaul in the playing squad.

[DE.]

"Oh for Gods sake PLEASE not again (head in hands) have we learnt nothing?"

It's the exact opposite.

It's those who have seen the appointment of Kean, Berg and Appleton and still believe that Venkys will appoint a good experienced manager who have learnt nothing.

Bowyer is nothing like Kean and came in under very different circumstances and did a great job. He may not turn out to be the answer, there are no guarantees in life. But he must be a better bet than trusting Shebby Singh to come up with a decent choice.

Actual measurable observable results suggest so.

Indeed. I'm still waiting for somebody to give me a realistic managerial name better than Bowyer who would take the job under Venky's and Shebby Singh.

For the record, I don't count Hughes as realistic.

[Amo]

You sound like a Steve kean post match interview.. Ftr anyone who knows me will tell you that I'm no ones apologist . .. But what have you done apart from slag fans off .. Oh yea your boycotting but never went before boycotting .

I haven't "slagged fans off". I've criticized the motives and actions of a select group of people who I feel are 'too close' to interested parties. If you have a problem with that then feel free to explain why without the mudslinging, ta very much.

[chaddyrovers]

Nigel Pearson? close to being sack at Leicester

Coyle?

McClaren?

Robinson?

Mcleish?

would fans be happy with them if one of these is appointed? doubt it?

[Ossydave]

People definitely make far too much of an issue of us needing an 'experienced championship manager', like its the hardest league in the world.

I was watching yesterday and thinking to myself that if we'd played like that all season we'd at least be in a play off spot.

Do I want Bowyer to get the gig full time? I'm not so sure, I'd like to see the other possibilities too, but I certainly wouldn't be massively against the idea.....

[West Yorks Rover]

Indeed. I'm still waiting for somebody to give me a realistic managerial name better than Bowyer who would take the job under Venky's and Shebby Singh.

For the record, I don't count Hughes as realistic.

Bowyer has done a pretty decent job under the circumstances, I doubt anyone could do better, but the club is being run

in such a shambolic way, he or anybody else who comes in, will inevitably come unstuck.

I would'nt be surprised to see Danny Murphy involved soon, in some capacity.

[T4E]

Bowyer's overall record is -

P 12 W 6 D 3 L 3 Pts 21

Over a 46 game season that would have given around 80 points. Hull are sat in 2nd right now with one game left on 78 points.

He deserves his chance.

[saxo1man30]

i`ve now heard nigel pearson mentioned. if bowyer`s not to continue then i doubt we`d get a better option anywhere. he is an experienced manager..

[Batman.]

Bowyer's overall record is -

P 12 W 6 D 3 L 3 Pts 21

Over a 46 game season that would have given around 80 points. Hull are sat in 2nd right now with one game left on 78 points.

He deserves his chance.

Hard to argue with that, nearly as good as Steve Kean's record at this level.

[Rover_Shaun]

it's like saying a dry week means the weather will be like that all year..........pointless

[Lytham]

It isn't like that.

We have centuries of data that show that a dry week isn't likely to be sustained for a year.

Whereas all the data we have on Bowyer is all the data we have, with nothing to say otherwise.

The data on Bowyer, limited though it is, is considerably more favourable than the data associated with all the managers appointed by the people who will appoint the next one.

[Gav]

I haven't "slagged fans off". I've criticized the motives and actions of a select group of people who I feel are 'too close' to interested parties. If you have a problem with that then feel free to explain why without the mudslinging, ta very much.

You're credibility is questionable because you don't go to games Topman.

I'd also say the select group of people you refer to have done more good than you and your fellow detractors will ever do during you time supporting the club via your armchair.

I'm not against people that can't attend matches, plenty have valid reasons, but you do not, yet you see fit to slag of people that attend all games and try to make a difference outside of match days.

Hypocrisy of the highest order in my book.

[Tom]

The problem with that line of thinking is if we go down that route David Nugent is potentially England's greatest ever striker

I'll say it again though I can't think of many candidates that fit all the critera and more importantly who would be willing to work under Venkys and the 3 stooges though, Bowyer has already demonstrated by his India summit that he would be willing to toe the line.

If a Mark Hughes for example wanted the job and got certain assurances id rather have him than GB but in reality the alternatives are going to be the Dickovs etc

[ABBEY]

dickov still 3rd fav Tom.

[47er]

Indeed. I'm still waiting for somebody to give me a realistic managerial name better than Bowyer who would take the job under Venky's and Shebby Singh.

For the record, I don't count Hughes as realistic.

We've been through this over and over again. None of us know who would apply for the job? How can we? That's not the same as accepting that nobody will.

The answer to your question can only be "advertise it and we'll find out."

People were even saying this when we discussing whether Souness should go or not---- "no-one any good would be interested"

That was wrong then and is wrong now.

[Plastic Head]

You're credibility is questionable because you don't go to games Topman.

I'd also say the select group of people you refer to have done more good than you and your fellow detractors will ever do during you time supporting the club via your armchair.

I'm not against people that can't attend matches, plenty have valid reasons, but you do not, yet you see fit to slag of people that attend all games and try to make a difference outside of match days.

Hypocrisy of the highest order in my book.

I have no reason whatsoever not to attend matches.

Oh, apart from the fact that I will not fund the destruction of the club.

The identity of the next manager is a complete irrelevance. I have kicked the dog in the ballacks 15 times and each time it has turned round and bit my leg. What will happen next time? A. It won't bite my leg B. Shebby Singh will bite my leg C. It will bite my leg again. Answer this and you have taken a big step towards the next stage of natural selection.