Backroom DE. Posted April 29, 2013 Backroom Posted April 29, 2013 One thing Bowyer has shown, which Kean/Appleton/Berg all lacked, is the ability to make changes when things are going wrong. He makes subs at the right time and is able to alter the shape of the team to good effect. Between he and Terry McPhillips there's a good footballing brain there.
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martonrover Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 One thing Bowyer has shown, which Kean/Appleton/Berg all lacked, is the ability to make changes when things are going wrong. He makes subs at the right time and is able to alter the shape of the team to good effect. Between he and Terry McPhillips there's a good footballing brain there. I would agree with that. Appleton was hopeless at making substitutions and I think it cost us points in some games.
OJRovers Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 My first choice would be a manager with experience of the Championship. However, given that venkys haven't got a clue when it comes to appointing managers, I think we might be better sticking with Bowyer.
LeChuck Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 My first choice would be a manager with experience of the Championship. To be fair Appleton had that so we'll probably have to be a bit more picky and say a manager with experience and a record of some success at this level.
Exiled in Toronto Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 Good post. However, you do a disservice to those you term "limited experience": Norwich - Paul Lambert - Ex Livingston, Wycombe, Colchester Swansea - Brendan Rogers - Ex Watford and Reading Reading - Brian McDermott - Ex Woking Southampton - Nigel Adkins - Ex Scunthorpe Cardiff - Malky Mackay - Ex Watford Brendan Rodgers - Ex Watford and Reading Watford (?) - Gianfranco Zola - even he managed at West Ham Other play-off contenders during the same timeframe: Billy Davies - Ex Preston, Derby Brian McDermott - Ex Woking Dave Jones - Ex Stockport, Southampton, Wolves Ian Holloway - Ex Plymouth, QPR Time and time again, particularly on a budget, it's experienced managers who get the points in this league. Contrast that with our "attempts": Steve Kean - zero management experience Henning Berg - Lyn Olso, Lillestrom Michael Appleton - Portsmouth (downwards, turmoil), Blackpool (less than 2 months) Gary Bowyer - reserve team only Not sure "ex-Woking" would set the pulses racing on here
yoda's brother Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 Its invalid to assume he's mediocre because its his first shot at management, just as its invalid to assume he's brilliant because of his results so far. We don't know either way at this point, so its not a sad state of affairs at all. We've got an excellent caretaker manager and its up to us to decide whether we want to make him permanent. Steve Clarke, Nigel Adkins, Chris Hughton, Dougie Freedman and Chris Powell were all backroom staff at clubs not long ago, and all are now making a success out of management. eh is it, do you work for rovers.
Lurid Coat Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/blackburn-counting-cost-manager-mayhem-1860547 "The new turmoil at Ewood Park will probably see Shaw’s exit, with financial director Karen Silk also working her notice. There will be a shake-up behind the scenes that could see caretaker boss Gary Bowyer leave." Granted, this is a Nixon piece, but...
chaddyrovers Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 total p1sstake if this happens but wuldnt shock me anymore with Shebby, venkys and rovers.
BlueMonday Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 BoycottExcellent cricket brain, unproven at football management ;-)
saxo1man30 Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/blackburn-counting-cost-manager-mayhem-1860547 "The new turmoil at Ewood Park will probably see Shaw’s exit, with financial director Karen Silk also working her notice. There will be a shake-up behind the scenes that could see caretaker boss Gary Bowyer leave." Granted, this is a Nixon piece, but... that would be simply a scandalous and suicidal decision. i thought theyve made bad decisions before, but this would take the biscuit. judan ali anyone..?
Lathund Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Slipping that in in the last sentence of the article really smells of @#/?-stirring. In a shake-up, changes will obviously be made, but I think Bowyer leaving the club entirely is the least likely change to be made. One can point to Venkys history of bad decisions, but also worth pointing out that Bowyer is the cheap managerial option for them, and someone with a background of youth development. Seems like the kind of manager they'd like. If there was anything more in it, it would've been an article of it's own.
Rover_Shaun Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 that would be simply a scandalous and suicidal decision. i thought theyve made bad decisions before, but this would take the biscuit. judan ali anyone..? hardly suicidal as keeping him on may not even work
JAL Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Has nobody thought that Gary Bowyer might not want to stay around as the club sinks further and further.
Mercer Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Has nobody thought that Gary Bowyer might not want to stay around as the club sinks further and further. +1
Steve Kean's Hypnotoad Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Has nobody thought that Gary Bowyer might not want to stay around as the club sinks further and further. Well he hasn't minded staying around the last 2 years, and we'd be paying him a lot more money to do it if he got the job. He'd have to have very little faith in his own ability to not back himself to improve on 17th or whereever we finish this season. Kean shouldn't have ever been a hard act to follow, but its been made to look that way because Shagnew managed to somehow find 2 managers who are even worse than him. If our wage bill remains among the highest in the division, any halfway decent manager should be able to mount some kind of resurgence next season.
Guest Norbert Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Since the likely alternatives on offer are probably too frightening to imagine, I'd try and keep him on.
RibbleValleyRover Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 The article says he could leave, it's not definite. IMO If Shebby gets his way it's more likely Bowyer will be staying, if anyone has been talking up Bowyer this season as a managerial genius it's Shebby. Of course Bowyer might want to leave himself so it might not be a club decision. If he goes he goes, let's see who comes in first if it happens.
T.J.Newton Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Make your mind up, Abbey. Are we talking about BRAG or are we talking about boycotts? Basically, you don't agree with what I think, but rather than actually debate that, you'd rather resort to ad hominem attacks based on my proximity to the ground. Good one. Oh, and please spare me the patented 'What are YOU doing to change things!?' which usually spills from the mouths of GM's apologists. Venky's are doing a grand job of exposing their incompetence to the footballing world without supporters getting involved in board-room battles. In my book, that only makes them part of the problem they're reputedly trying to solve. I'm not afraid to express what other people are thinking. You might try to discredit me with your cheap tactics but i'll stand my ground as long I feel justified in my belief. Totally agree
JAL Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Well he hasn't minded staying around the last 2 years, and we'd be paying him a lot more money to do it if he got the job. He'd have to have very little faith in his own ability to not back himself to improve on 17th or whereever we finish this season. Kean shouldn't have ever been a hard act to follow, but its been made to look that way because Shagnew managed to somehow find 2 managers who are even worse than him. If our wage bill remains among the highest in the division, any halfway decent manager should be able to mount some kind of resurgence next season. Two years ago a premiership club now its going to have to make significant financial cuts. How do you view the club next season.
martonrover Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Excellent cricket brain, unproven at football management ;-) Was on the Board at Melchester Rovers ( really ) and wouldn't take any crap from Venky's ;-)
rog of the rovers Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 During his first spell, Bowyer said in many of his interviews that he didn't want the job full time. This time around, I can't say I've heard one way or another, but surely the whole situation can become clearer if he says he does or doesn't want the job. If he wants it, then he's got to be given a chance to bring in his own staff and ideas. If not, then let him return to the under 21s.
chris_h Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Was on the Board at Melchester Rovers ( really ) and wouldn't take any crap from Venky's ;-) There are enough 'Corridors of uncertainty' within the confines of Ewood as it is.
47er Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Jaw dropping , shock horror moment . Breaking News.........Topman in Newton-backed "cheap tactics" jibe!
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