[Archived] Gary Bowyer

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

"Madame" is all I need to judge him. Plummeted that day he did

Can we all get past Sven. Coyle and bloody Peter Taylor? Stop reading Nicko's @#/?

Additionally I noticed a Bowyer comment that doesn't seem to apply when it comes to toadying to the owners whims

Why can't the owners use such things??

Unfortunately while Venkys own the club, managers will have to appear to be respectful to them, thats just how it has to work. Appear to be is the important part of that sentence. I'm sure Bowyer thinks they're just as ridiculous as we do but if he wants the chance to be a good manager here then a few meaningless words to keep them off his back is worth it.

Appleton said all the right things and was a woeful manager. Words mean little in football to anyone except the fans. I wouldn't mind if our manager stoood in the centre circle before each game singing a song about the wonder of Venkys if he also got us promoted. Well ok, I'd mind, but I'd take it.

[Rover_Shaun]

Pathetic

Keep slagging the guy who pretty muched saved us from league 1 (ask the experienced dean Saunders how easy that is)

The media got it wrong to damn us fans for our treatment of Kean, but they would be justified if we had a large percentage speaking as you do. Do you use logic when making a decision? Owners proven failures at hiring management... So why lobby them to carry on when we have a guy who has won half his games?

GB is most likely not the next Mourinho.. But he cares about the club and will give his all. Why find someone else to pay millions for 60 days work.

Also the players need stability. Fannying around finding a "Sven" 6 weeks into the summer is asking for trouble.

Can Bowyer handle a playing budget? Can he spot a player? Can he handle the pressure when it's really on? Answer is nobody knows. So why gamble to that extent if you don't have to?

If pussying around the nether regions of the championship is the goal then let's sign him up.

I know Venkys have done nothing to suggest they have a brain but now is the time to nail the boardroom structure and employ an experienced manager (don't kid yourself as plenty will apply). We have tried wet behind the ears novices, hence we are a diabolical shambles of a club on the pitch too.

It looks like he's a shoe in though as he's cheap and obvious. Hopefully he can defy the odds

[thenodrog]

Does he sod deserve a crack at it....people like Mclaren, ex-England manager, deserve a crack at it....but our @#/? owners can't put a deal together anymore....they won't be letting anyone near the till anymore after the Berg debacle.

!!! McClaren ffs!!?? Is that the best name you can come up with? He's clueless and managed poorly with Gibson bankrolling him to the hilt. How do you think he'd do without any dosh?

I must say it might be worth it just to hear his fake Blackburn accent mixed with a hint of Dutch! Ey up luv err Mishus Venky... Sho shhorry I'm late I were agate parrrrkin me currrrr on't currrrr purrrrrk.

[thenodrog]

Yeah, right mate. He'd get us up, no problem...

No problem eh?

Go on then.... I'll take you seriously when thousands wouldn't..... So Sparky what exactly makes you say that?

[thenodrog]

Any manager here needs to be on a short term (but over the odds in terms of remuneration) contract as does every player with the exception of Rhodes who we need to sell for a lot of money rather than be allowed to walk out of the door with our 8m. We've little to no chance of promotion next season so the next manager might be a short term appointment and should be a wheeler dealer first and foremost to carry out a major cull on the squad (and 'right the ship'..... if there is time) most of whom I can only assume we signed cos there were bounty's attached payable to any number of leeches.

Allardyce was aiming at a small squad with a sprinkling of specialist positions down the centre and the rest strong players who could play in 2 or 3 positions. What the Venkys were told which persuaded them was wrong with that I can't imagine but that should again be the model. One things for sure the old saying about 'fools and their money being soon parted' has never been more accurate.

Kean .. No experience
Berg ...little experience as manager
Appleton ..little experience

NO CHUFFING LESSONS LEARNT

Hughes had least experience of all of them Abbey. Not that the Venkys will have heard of him anyway.

[Sparky Marky]

No problem eh?

Go on then.... I'll take you seriously when thousands wouldn't..... So Sparky what exactly makes you say that?

Just read his wiki page.....and tell me we could do better right now. And i bet boro fans don't think he managed poorly...they had loads of relative success ....promotions...cups....uefa adventures....top 7 finishes....

Seems a better bet than Bowyer to me..

[thenodrog]

Just read his wiki page.....and tell me we could do better right now.

Wiki? Why should I waste my time cos his agent will likely have written that.

[Sparky Marky]

Wiki? Why should I waste my time cos his agent will likely have written that.

Bit like Steve Bruce....nobody on here thought he'd be any good at ewood when i suggested it..

[den]

Just read his wiki page.....and tell me we could do better right now. And i bet boro fans don't think he managed poorly...they had loads of relative success ....promotions...cups....uefa adventures....top 7 finishes....

Seems a better bet than Bowyer to me..

Speaking to some Boro fans in a pub just outside the ground a few years back and they hated his football. They called him the magician, because of the way he made the crowd disappear.

[Sparky Marky]

Speaking to some Boro fans in a pub just outside the ground a few years back and they hated his football. They called him the magician, because of the way he made the crowd disappear.

Well, he won't need to perform that trick here.

[ABBEY]

Any manager here needs to be on a short term (but over the odds in terms of remuneration) contract as does every player with the exception of Rhodes who we need to sell for a lot of money rather than be allowed to walk out of the door with our 8m. We've little to no chance of promotion next season so the next manager might be a short term appointment and should be a wheeler dealer first and foremost to carry out a major cull on the squad (and 'right the ship'..... if there is time) most of whom I can only assume we signed cos there were bounty's attached payable to any number of leeches.

Allardyce was aiming at a small squad with a sprinkling of specialist positions down the centre and the rest strong players who could play in 2 or 3 positions. What the Venkys were told which persuaded them was wrong with that I can't imagine but that should again be the model. One things for sure the old saying about 'fools and their money being soon parted' has never been more accurate.

Hughes had least experience of all of them Abbey. Not that the Venkys will have heard of him anyway.

Aye but his record with Wales gave a clue to him being ok . I remember flops' sack Hughes thread .

[Amo]

Bit like Steve Bruce....nobody on here thought he'd be any good at ewood when i suggested it..

His only Championship experience is with Forest... and his record was worse than Appleton's!

[sharpysharps]

Scenario of when McDermott took over at Reading is slightly different to Rovers and Bowyer.

Reading didn't really have any other options to them as I don't think their former chairman John Madjeski wanted to splash the cash on a big name manager, so he went for McDermott and backed him sensibly...it paid off.

At Rovers, if Bowyer took the job he would be surrounded by morons who will probably not give him full control of transfers.

Bowyer would work long term with the right people around him....having said that I don't think even the most experienced of managers could work with the clowns running the club, so we may as well give him a chance.

Let's face it, Shebby would sack Jose Mourinho if we lost 2 or 3 on the bounce.

[LeChuck]

Speaking to some Boro fans in a pub just outside the ground a few years back and they hated his football. They called him the magician, because of the way he made the crowd disappear.

To be fair though Den, a lot of Rovers fans would say similar about Allardyce. Doesn't make them right.

[Andy]

Speaking to some Boro fans in a pub just outside the ground a few years back and they hated his football. They called him the magician, because of the way he made the crowd disappear.

I thought it was because he disappeared with a poof...

[den]

To be fair though Den, a lot of Rovers fans would say similar about Allardyce. Doesn't make them right.

Well boro's gates plummeted under McLaren, while Rovers grew under Allardyce. Obviously those Boro fans I spoke to actually knew what the majority of fans thought. (Would add smilie if I knew how to with Ipad).

[47er]

Can't with ipad Den! Leastways not the site emoticons.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

Well boro's gates plummeted under McLaren, while Rovers grew under Allardyce. Obviously those Boro fans I spoke to actually knew what the majority of fans thought. (Would add smilie if I knew how to with Ipad).

They hardly plummeted. On average they dropped about 1,000 compared to the previous years, but then on average they dropped over 2,000 after he left, so I'd say that looks more like a general trend of their support over the 14 years they were in the PL than anything McClaren did. Rovers went through exactly the same trend. 26,226 in 2002/03, our first season back when things were new and exciting, 21,275 in 2005/06 when we finished within touching distance of the Champions League. And as much as I'm a fan, it wasn't Allardyce that reversed that, it was the club more than halving prices over the next few years.

[RevidgeBlue]

!!! McClaren ffs!!?? Is that the best name you can come up with? He's clueless and managed poorly with Gibson bankrolling him to the hilt. How do you think he'd do without any dosh?

I must say it might be worth it just to hear his fake Blackburn accent mixed with a hint of Dutch! Ey up luv err Mishus Venky... Sho shhorry I'm late I were agate parrrrkin me currrrr on't currrrr purrrrrk.

Brilliant Gordon!

Your post mirrors my view of McClaren too.

[Amo]

My favourite McClaren moment was during a BBC show some years back, where this disabled Boro fan got to meet him at a dinner event. A slightly 'merry' Schteve looked down on the guy in the wheelchair and said:

"Do you want to come and train with the lads- I urgrrh - watch the lads train?"

[chaddyrovers]

Can Bowyer handle a playing budget? Can he spot a player? Can he handle the pressure when it's really on? Answer is nobody knows. So why gamble to that extent if you don't have to?

If pussying around the nether regions of the championship is the goal then let's sign him up.

we dont know whether Bowyer can handle a transfer budget unless he is given the chance.

he did bring Todd Kane 1st time around. be a good signing. so he spotted him.

im prepared to give him a chance as manager.

He has kept Rovers up this season. without him we would be in League 1 now

[thenodrog]

we dont know whether Bowyer can handle a transfer budget unless he is given the chance.

he did bring Todd Kane 1st time around. be a good signing. so he spotted him.

im prepared to give him a chance as manager.

He has kept Rovers up this season. without him we would be in League 1 now

It's not signings we need first, it's getting shot of half the squad first. Signings are easy but to get rid of bad players on long contracts we need a few contacts in the mafia......

...... any darreners out there?

[JBiz]

Can Bowyer handle a playing budget? Can he spot a player? Can he handle the pressure when it's really on? Answer is nobody knows. So why gamble to that extent if you don't have to?

If pussying around the nether regions of the championship is the goal then let's sign him up.

I know Venkys have done nothing to suggest they have a brain but now is the time to nail the boardroom structure and employ an experienced manager (don't kid yourself as plenty will apply). We have tried wet behind the ears novices, hence we are a diabolical shambles of a club on the pitch too.

It looks like he's a shoe in though as he's cheap and obvious. Hopefully he can defy the odds

It's hard to tell if Bowyer can handle the transfer side (besides Kane)

The pressure of it - he can. He's proved it twice. Look at the amount of player unrest and back room trouble we have had in his short stints. Many lesser people would have walked.

The fans and the owners owe him a lot. What better way to reward him- short contract. If it flops, we try again.

Everyone knows how experience can help or hinder at this level. Many failed top flight mangers succeed at this level and vice versa. The only difference, experience costs more.

We cannot take anymore expensive risks. GB is safe hands, whilst behind the scenes chaos is resolved.

It is illogical to expect Venkys to sort that side of the club out, and spend money on more players and experienced staff. If your opinion is built on logic, you must see that an expensive experienced respected manager is less than likely.

More likely: One if Ray Ransons contacts

[roverandout]

It's hard to tell if Bowyer can handle the transfer side (besides Kane)

The pressure of it - he can. He's proved it twice. Look at the amount of player unrest and back room trouble we have had in his short stints. Many lesser people would have walked.

The fans and the owners owe him a lot. What better way to reward him- short contract. If it flops, we try again.

Everyone knows how experience can help or hinder at this level. Many failed top flight mangers succeed at this level and vice versa. The only difference, experience costs more.

We cannot take anymore expensive risks. GB is safe hands, whilst behind the scenes chaos is resolved.

It is illogical to expect Venkys to sort that side of the club out, and spend money on more players and experienced staff. If your opinion is built on logic, you must see that an expensive experienced respected manager is less than likely.

More likely: One if Ray Ransons contacts

wouldn't be more expensive not to take the risk if, should i say when this goes tits-up?

[Guest Norbert]

Depends who is negotiating the contract..............

Anyway, it would be interesting to see who is available at the moment, other than McClaren, Kean, Taylor and Ali. It may all depend on the boardroom restructuring.