[Archived] Gary Bowyer

[Majiball]

You can't really compare appointing Kendall - to us appointing Bowyer Parson.

If we currently had the choice of Bowyer and say bringing in a hugely experienced, top midfielder who was widely respected within the game and had the desire to get into management - as our player manager, there would be no argument would there?

Paul Scholes?

[JAL]

our most successful managers in the last 20 years have been experienced ones, (mark hughes with wales). Kidd, harford, ince, kean, berg and Appleton have been major flops, so it would be common sense to go for experience, bowyer will probably fall into the latter category.

Success now seems to be all about how much money you can make from moving players no matter how bad they are in and out of the club.

[den]

Paul Scholes?

Crossed my mind as well Maj.

[Majiball]

Crossed my mind as well Maj.

I'd pondered him with Bowyer as his assistant. He's joining the 1st team coaching staff at United as far as I know, but defo wants to try management.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Paul Scholes?

Too quiet, A bit like when Bobby Charlton took over at Preston. He was a massive flop.

[Majiball]

Too quiet, A bit like when Bobby Charlton took over at Preston. He was a massive flop.

Solskjear's a quiet one too, you've got to watch out for them...

it's a different game now and if being honest I see no relationship between how much someone talks and ability.

If I was selecting candidates, I would want to speak to him.

[Parsonblue]

You can't really compare appointing Kendall - to us appointing Bowyer Parson.

If we currently had the choice of Bowyer and say bringing in a hugely experienced, top midfielder who was widely respected within the game and had the desire to get into management - as our player manager, there would be no argument would there?

So you'd be happy with Danny Murphy as player-manager den?

[gumboots]

You can't really compare appointing Kendall - to us appointing Bowyer Parson.

If we currently had the choice of Bowyer and say bringing in a hugely experienced, top midfielder who was widely respected within the game and had the desire to get into management - as our player manager, there would be no argument would there?

But when on the one hand everyone is saying we need experience and then on the other you are saying that Scholes would be a possible choice then isn't that a contradiction. Yes, Scholes has played at Man U for a number of years and one would think had learnt something about management from Ferguson, but then Ince played for Ferguson too, had also managed lower league, and we know what a disaster he was here. I'm not a fan of the idea of appointing Bowyer for all sorts of reasons, but unless the person coming in is actually much better qualified to do the job than him, I can't see the point of appointing him ahead of Bowyer. Nobody so far has come up with a decent suggestion of who else we could appoint who would be available, effective, likely to come and work here, wouldn't expect to be paid too much and could work on a very tight budget, bearing in mind that we are broke, if most people who understand finance are telling the truth. I don't want Bowyer, not because I'm not grateful for what he's done , but because like everyone else I have reservations about making a caretaker the permanent manager, but there are worse we could be asked to settle for.

[chaddyrovers]

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/blackburn_rovers/news/10413665.Dunn_backs_Bowyer_for_Blackburn_Rovers_job/

[den]

So you'd be happy with Danny Murphy as player-manager den?

Now then Parson, I didn't say anything of the sort. Our approach for Kendall was in no way comparable to us appointing Bowyer, was it. The best midfielder never to play for England and highly respected in footballing circles, coming in as player manager, versus Gary Bowyer. No comparison.

[roverstdt]

Bowyer in my eyes deserves the job more than anything. He proved over 12 games this season that he commands respect, and can get the team playing well. The biggest thing for me is that he needs to be able to have complete control of the squad, and who is allowed to play and the starting 11.

At this point in time we cannot afford to be demanding given our current situation. We are in a desperate need for some stability regardless who that may be. Bowyer is liked and respect which is already 500000000000000000 points ahead of Kean. I would take Bowyer any day give him the summer to sort the squad out, have a good pre season and give him till Christmas and see where we are at then.

[den]

But when on the one hand everyone is saying we need experience and then on the other you are saying that Scholes would be a possible choice then isn't that a contradiction. Yes, Scholes has played at Man U for a number of years and one would think had learnt something about management from Ferguson, but then Ince played for Ferguson too, had also managed lower league, and we know what a disaster he was here. I'm not a fan of the idea of appointing Bowyer for all sorts of reasons, but unless the person coming in is actually much better qualified to do the job than him, I can't see the point of appointing him ahead of Bowyer. Nobody so far has come up with a decent suggestion of who else we could appoint who would be available, effective, likely to come and work here, wouldn't expect to be paid too much and could work on a very tight budget, bearing in mind that we are broke, if most people who understand finance are telling the truth. I don't want Bowyer, not because I'm not grateful for what he's done , but because like everyone else I have reservations about making a caretaker the permanent manager, but there are worse we could be asked to settle for.

Scholes as player manager v Bowyer?

At this level Gumboots, Scholes's on field leadership/performances and influence with attracting players here, might be enough to get us out of this league. If not Scholes's, then someone of that ilk. My point is that surely to goodness we can be a bit more ambitious than appointing someone because "no one else would come here". If people think Bowyer is the top man for the job, then fair enough. I wouldn't agree with that, but At least it's a decent argument.

[chaddyrovers]

Scholes is retiring at the end of the season isn't he???

is he ever interest in being a manager??? personally I don't think he is. probably retire and enjoy his life. maybe do some youth coaching at Man Utd Academy

[RibbleValleyRover]

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/blackburn_rovers/news/10413665.Dunn_backs_Bowyer_for_Blackburn_Rovers_job/

Dunny wants a new contract and by all accounts he will get one if Bowyer gets the job.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Solskjear's a quiet one too, you've got to watch out for them...

it's a different game now and if being honest I see no relationship between how much someone talks and ability.

If I was selecting candidates, I would want to speak to him.

I agree that things have changed a lot since those days, the days of the sergeant major style managers are well and truly over. Having said that Scholes is so self-effacing it's un-real. I can't recall him actually saying anything at all about anything ! You need to be articulate at the least to get your ideas over and to motivate players.

[Majiball]

Blackburn midfielder David Dunn has urged fans to give manager Steve Kean time to turn around the club's poor start to the season.

Blackburn midfielder Dunn will clearly say whatever to get a new contract.

But when on the one hand everyone is saying we need experience and then on the other you are saying that Scholes would be a possible choice then isn't that a contradiction. Yes, Scholes has played at Man U for a number of years and one would think had learnt something about management from Ferguson, but then Ince played for Ferguson too, had also managed lower league, and we know what a disaster he was here. I'm not a fan of the idea of appointing Bowyer for all sorts of reasons, but unless the person coming in is actually much better qualified to do the job than him, I can't see the point of appointing him ahead of Bowyer. Nobody so far has come up with a decent suggestion of who else we could appoint who would be available, effective, likely to come and work here, wouldn't expect to be paid too much and could work on a very tight budget, bearing in mind that we are broke, if most people who understand finance are telling the truth. I don't want Bowyer, not because I'm not grateful for what he's done , but because like everyone else I have reservations about making a caretaker the permanent manager, but there are worse we could be asked to settle for.

But I suggested Scholes, Den merely said he'd considered him but I introduced him to the conversation.

I would say suggesting anyone is nigh on impossible as none of us have scooby whats really going on at Rovers. Yes money maybe an issue but I've heard it isn't due to Balaji, who bloody knows. We could have money, we could not, we could be looking to get promoted, we could not, it's impossible. I agree there's worse than bowyer and share your reservations but when you have a supposed choice between Holloway, redknapp and the others mentioned who would have ever picked Berg.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Dunny wants a new contract and by all accounts he will get one if Bowyer gets the job.

Great news, we mustn't be as broke as people are saying if we can afford to pull strokes like this.

[Rover_Shaun]

Dunns credibility is so shattered he could make it as a Tory MP

[Amo]

Aye, Dunny has said the same crap for every manager, he's that desperate to stay on the gravy train.

[Majiball]

I agree that things have changed a lot since those days, the days of the sergeant major style managers are well and truly over. Having said that Scholes is so self-effacing it's un-real. I can't recall him actually saying anything at all about anything ! You need to be articulate at the least to get your ideas over and to motivate players.

So as he never speaks in the press he's not articulate? I too would avoid the british press like the plague if it played a major role in my life. i have a family member who makes the press a bit and it amazes me with which the frequency they print half-truths as fact painting him as an asshole when it's clearly a very different story once you know the whole picture. I wouldn't judge his ability to talk / motivate in an environment he's grown up in too one in which he clearly isn't happy IE interviews.

He hardly seems inarticulate in this:

He's clearly a consummate professional since he's playing for United at 38 and we could certainly do with some of that at Rovers. Anyway I would want to talk to him and see from there, nothing more.

[ABBEY]

Scholes is retiring at the end of the season isn't he???

is he ever interest in being a manager??? personally I don't think he is. probably retire and enjoy his life. maybe do some youth coaching at Man Utd Academy

HAVE you met him ?

[thenodrog]

Paul Scholes?

I'm not sure about Paul Scholes. He shuns the limelight and seems shy and retiring. I've no way of knowing how intelligent he is, how articulate or more importantly if he is a leader of men. I simply can't second guess Paul Scholes, does anybody know what his personality is like?

Only from seeing them on the TV I think Phil Neville might provide a better/ safer bet imo.

[Gav]

Dunns credibility is so shattered he could make it as a Tory MP

It's pathetic and shortsighted how a few see Dunn as some sort if villain in the piece, we've had 21yrs service from the lad, he deserves a bit more respect in my book.

[Amo]

It's pathetic and shortsighted how a few see Dunn as some sort if villain in the piece, we've had 21yrs service from the lad, he deserves a bit more respect in my book.

Not quite a villain in our play but it's hard to deny that he's a perennial suck-up, or need we remind you the 'get real' jibe when supporting his pal, Kean? Dunn will say whatever he needs to in order to get another contract.

[Gav]

Not quite a villain in our play but it's hard to deny that he's a perennial suck-up, or need we remind you the 'get real' jibe when supporting his pal, Kean? Dunn will say whatever he needs to in order to get another contract.

Players support the manager, simple as that, we'd all have liked him to call Kean a Kean in public but it's never going happen.

That along with his departure to Brum are the negatives, but he's given the club 21yrs service, and that in the modern era is phenomenal and you and your mates that don't even go to games should have a little more respect.