[Archived] Gary Bowyer

[Kamy100]

Had an interesting conversation with Rafa's agent. He has confirmed that no one from Rovers has approached Rafa in last few months and that even if they did at present he would want to explore other opportunities. Most interesting is that he confirmed that there had been previous interest from Rovers which had been very tempting for Rafa but in the end he decided against it.

[Amo]

Tbf, just because Shebby is an incompetent blundering fool, doesn't mean he is dishonest.

Shebby's told his fair share of bull whenever he's given the opportunity.

All Drog has done is invent a red herring for the purpose of convincing people his hero Shebby is the best of a bad bunch. It doesn't matter if Shagnew are Wormtongues and Shebby's just a kind-hearted idiot (I dispute the first part), it all translates to the same thing. There's no room for compromise here. None of them should be within a hundred miles of this club.

[Mike E]

Shebby's told his fair share of bull whenever he's given the opportunity.

All Drog has done is invent a red herring for the purpose of convincing people his hero Shebby is the best of a bad bunch. It doesn't matter if Shagnew are Wormtongues and Shebby's just a kind-hearted idiot (I dispute the first part), it all translates to the same thing. There's no room for compromise here. None of them should be within a hundred miles of this club.

Oh I agree, tbh. I just think Shebby says random BS without thinking, as opposed to the well-thought-out BS from ShelfyShaw and PrestonPaul.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

Tbf, just because Shebby is an incompetent blundering fool, doesn't mean he is dishonest.

I'd disagree with that simply based on the most meaningful actions he's taken since coming to the club.

He got rid of Kean, which was great. But then he immediately set about trying to replace him with an identical type of manager with the only difference being one who'd played for Rovers.

Basically he led the fans on to believe he was getting rid of Kean for the right reasons (his inexperience and poor record) when in fact he was getting rid of him for the wrong reason (that he wasn't Singh's puppet, whereas the new man would be).

He's an incompetent blundering fool all right but he's also dishonest and power-mad. Which is the exact description I'd use for Jerome Anderson, Kean, Shagnew, and doubtless a few others that have tried to get in on the act. All the low-life talentless scum of football attracted to Venkys like flies around ****.

[broadsword]

Just because he's a fool, doesn't mean he isn't a dishonest fool.

[TBTF]

Just because he's a fool, doesn't mean he isn't a dishonest fool.

They have all told lies at some point in the last 12 months (some in Court) which fans now know are lies-end of any trust anybody could ever have.We are run by dishonest incompetents .What worse combination would you want to sign up to for the forthcoming season??? Club is toxic , end of.

TBTF's BE badge on here will be gone by August if these clunts are still here.

[RevidgeBlue]

_{Absolutely no idea if true, but a few people have told me that the plan is to appoint Bowyer as head coach and it to bring in a general manager/director of football (not Shebby) who is experienced and will work with Gary on transfers etc. In addition to this bring in an experienced football administrator. On top of this pyramid would be Shebby to whom everyone will report to, he in turn will be the only one authorised to communicate with the owners.}

_{That is the plan from what people are telling me. Not had it verified yet from any sources in Pune.}

Never been a fan of the director of football system, I'd sooner have the old fashioned manager who was in charge of everything at the Club and knew everything down to the price of the last toilet roll like Moyes or Ferguson. Nevertheless I concede that the concept of the all powerful British manager is becoming less and less popular and that modern thinking is to have the manager concentrate on coaching duties alone.

Can't see the point in appointing a top DOF and top administrator then giving the final decision on everything to Shebby, it seems to defeat the purpose of the whole exercise.

I'm with Den on this one, all that is needed is a top manager reporting to a competent Chief Executive who then keeps the owners constantly in the loop. Not some complicated pyramid as outlined above. I've personally no problem with Bowyer getting the manager's job but he needs full autonomy on the playing side. If the powers that be feel he needs baby sitting and are correct in that then we probably need more experience.

[EgyptianPete]

Never been a fan of the director of football system, I'd sooner have the old fashioned manager who was in charge of everything at the Club and knew everything down to the price of the last toilet roll like Moyes or Ferguson. Nevertheless I concede that the concept of the all powerful British manager is becoming less and less popular and that modern thinking is to have the manager concentrate on coaching duties alone.

Can't see the point in appointing a top DOF and top administrator then giving the final decision on everything to Shebby, it seems to defeat the purpose of the whole exercise.

I'm with Den on this one, all that is needed is a top manager reporting to a competent Chief Executive who then keeps the owners constantly in the loop. Not some complicated pyramid as outlined above. I've personally no problem with Bowyer getting the manager's job but he needs full autonomy on the playing side. If the powers that be feel he needs baby sitting and are correct in that then we probably need more experience.

Think about it, this may be the way of keeping Shagnew out of the picture, that is of course if they have different bosses just saying.

[West Yorks Rover]

Never been a fan of the director of football system, I'd sooner have the old fashioned manager who was in charge of everything at the Club and knew everything down to the price of the last toilet roll like Moyes or Ferguson. Nevertheless I concede that the concept of the all powerful British manager is becoming less and less popular and that modern thinking is to have the manager concentrate on coaching duties alone.

Can't see the point in appointing a top DOF and top administrator then giving the final decision on everything to Shebby, it seems to defeat the purpose of the whole exercise.

I'm with Den on this one, all that is needed is a top manager reporting to a competent Chief Executive who then keeps the owners constantly in the loop. Not some complicated pyramid as outlined above. I've personally no problem with Bowyer getting the manager's job but he needs full autonomy on the playing side. If the powers that be feel he needs baby sitting and are correct in that then we probably need more experience.

West Brom seems to have worked ok, but most of the others eventually seem to end in failure.

I'll be glad to see the back of Agnew and Shaw if it happens though, at least that may be a start,

probably just wishfull thinking on my part.

[philipl]

The all powerful Director of Football- Jerome Anderson?

[RevidgeBlue]

The all powerful Director of Football- Jerome Anderson?

If Anderson had or has any control or influence whatsoever over happenings of Ewood please explain why

1) His "unsackable" client Steve Kean was put into a position whereby he felt like he had to resign and is no longer at the Club.

2 ) His son never got a sniff of playing time, was released, and is no longer at the Club.

[perthblue02]

The all powerful Director of Football- Jerome Anderson?

Surely he already holds that position within the Football Association, so would be a conflict of interest if he took up the role at Rovers. The governing bodies would never allow that unless of course there was a few quid in it for them

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

If Anderson had or has any control or influence whatsoever over happenings of Ewood please explain why

1) His "unsackable" client Steve Kean was put into a position whereby he felt like he had to resign and is no longer at the Club.

2 ) His son never got a sniff of playing time, was released, and is no longer at the Club.

Because its had not has. The Anderson/Venky break-up seems to have been the one positive thing relegation produced. Before that Anderson had them wrapped around his little finger.

[RevidgeBlue]

Surely he already holds that position within the Football Association, so would be a conflict of interest if he took up the role at Rovers. The governing bodies would never allow that unless of course there was a few quid in it for them

What position does he hold at the FA?

[perthblue02]

What position does he hold at the FA?

It was tongue in cheek , People don't have to have to hold official positions within organisations to influence decisions or non decisions in some cases.

[ABBEY]

If Anderson had or has any control or influence whatsoever over happenings of Ewood please explain why

1) His "unsackable" client Steve Kean was put into a position whereby he felt like he had to resign and is no longer at the Club.

2 ) His son never got a sniff of playing time, was released, and is no longer at the Club.

so why was he signed then ? talent?

[perthblue02]

If Anderson had or has any control or influence whatsoever over happenings of Ewood please explain why

1) His "unsackable" client Steve Kean was put into a position whereby he felt like he had to resign and is no longer at the Club.

2 ) His son never got a sniff of playing time, was released, and is no longer at the Club.

1) Do you really not think that Kean's withdrawal from the spotlight was done at an opportune time for him and his associates? Wonder why Venky's didn't fight his unfair dismissal claim , but paid it out quietly?

2) Didn't get a sniff of playing time but was still picking up a wage , wonder who sorted his contract out? , If i remember rightly he was released by Appleton the man with no agent who also moved Rochina and Formica out on loan , uhmm what have them three got in common?

As I have said previously there appears to be a cleansing of one of the crime scenes going on (started not long after the BRFCAG Documents arrived at PL and FA headquarters ) and while there is a stench of Team Kean still around Ewood the clean up and leeching continues with the aid of the foot soldiers and their patsy's

[Amo]

2 ) His son never got a sniff of playing time, was released, and is no longer at the Club.

Which is extraordinary given he could play for any team outside the Top Six.

[tomphil]

If Anderson had or has any control or influence whatsoever over happenings of Ewood please explain why

1) His "unsackable" client Steve Kean was put into a position whereby he felt like he had to resign and is no longer at the Club.

2 ) His son never got a sniff of playing time, was released, and is no longer at the Club.

Your continued veiled attempts to defend these people is becoming suspicious in itself.

[RevidgeBlue]

1) Do you really not think that Kean's withdrawal from the spotlight was done at an opportune time for him and his associates? Wonder why Venky's didn't fight his unfair dismissal claim , but paid it out quietly?

2) Didn't get a sniff of playing time but was still picking up a wage , wonder who sorted his contract out? , If i remember rightly he was released by Appleton the man with no agent who also moved Rochina and Formica out on loan , uhmm what have them three got in common?

As I have said previously there appears to be a cleansing of one of the crime scenes going on (started not long after the BRFCAG Documents arrived at PL and FA headquarters ) and while there is a stench of Team Kean still around Ewood the clean up and leeching continues with the aid of the foot soldiers and their patsy's

1) I would have thought it would be better from Kean's point of view to remain as manager as long as possible. He's virtually unemployable in that capacity now. As for the unfair dismissal claim, if Singh was signing Portugese players behind his back, and attempting to meddle in team selection/affairs it might not have left us with much of a leg to stand on.

2) We signed Anderson jnr. at a time when Anderson snr. was advising the Club. He's guilty of nepotism for sure but I don't suppose it's the first time something like that's been done and it certainly won't be the last.

3) You've lost me ,with your other point what do which three have in common Anderson jnr. Rochina and Formica or Appleton Rochina and Formica?

[Amo]

Your continued veiled attempts to defend these people is becoming suspicious in itself.

Don't always agree with Revidge but people such as him need to keep asking these questions.

Without them, this forum would descend into one crackpot theory after another. If suspicions over our ownership are true, then they should be able to bear scrutiny.

[perthblue02]

Point 1) Not having a leg to stand on , doesn't apply to Venky logic look at the Shaw court case, Also we are not 100% certain if he resigned or was sacked (as it was said in the Berg court case), but he was withdrawn at a time when we were riding high in the table so public sympathy that had been gleaned by lies and mis truths in the media was still present even though some where starting to ask questions.With the pay off he got , doesn't need to get another job for a couple of years by which time people will have forgot he was such a useless human being (obviously not Rovers supporters) and am sure he would have other income streams besides being a manager, tv appearances etc, he's got a good agent . Was Singh a smokescreen or an ideal opportunity to bow out? An idiot no doubt and I'm sure his time will come but in the scheme of things lower priority than others.

Point 3, Sorry should have been clearer, Anderson, Rochina and Formica - all moved out of the spotlight and away from the club in the same transfer window by a manager whose appointment was surrounded in questions, all arrived in dubious circumstances at the time the tantric one was very active. It will be very interesting to see if the latter two return and start next season.

Whilst your points are valid , my view is that since the presentation of the documents there does seem to have been some house cleaning going on and unfortunately for some people not gone so smoothly, but that's what you get when you bring opportunist's into the scheme.

[chaddyrovers]

_{Absolutely no idea if true, but a few people have told me that the plan is to appoint Bowyer as head coach and it to bring in a general manager/director of football (not Shebby) who is experienced and will work with Gary on transfers etc. In addition to this bring in an experienced football administrator. On top of this pyramid would be Shebby to whom everyone will report to, he in turn will be the only one authorised to communicate with the owners.}

_{That is the plan from what people are telling me. Not had it verified yet from any sources in Pune.}

I think its a good idea bring in experience Director of Football to help Bowyer with transfers targets, etc. would allow Bowyer more time on the coaching staff. But Bowyer must choose the players we sign tho.

We need a new Experience Football administrator to run the club and report directly to the owners NOT Shebby.

Shebby shouldn't be the Chairman of Rovers or be involved in transfers in or out of the club. or have Bowyer, new CEO or Director of Football reporting to him.

Shebby would be better as head of the Rovers Indian Academy.

WBA have this Director of Football/Head Coach structure and its worked there.

[Athlete]

Never been a fan of the director of football system, I'd sooner have the old fashioned manager who was in charge of everything at the Club and knew everything down to the price of the last toilet roll like Moyes or Ferguson. Nevertheless I concede that the concept of the all powerful British manager is becoming less and less popular and that modern thinking is to have the manager concentrate on coaching duties alone.

Can't see the point in appointing a top DOF and top administrator then giving the final decision on everything to Shebby, it seems to defeat the purpose of the whole exercise.

I'm with Den on this one, all that is needed is a top manager reporting to a competent Chief Executive who then keeps the owners constantly in the loop. Not some complicated pyramid as outlined above. I've personally no problem with Bowyer getting the manager's job but he needs full autonomy on the playing side. If the powers that be feel he needs baby sitting and are correct in that then we probably need more experience.

no point in this scenario a DOF an administrator with Shebby having the final say FFS how low can this circus/club go...

I believe GB was expected to be named manager the other week which didnt materilise maybe GB doesnt like thie idea of this new set up.....would anyone knowing that plank Singh would have the final say....

I think its a good idea bring in experience Director of Football to help Bowyer with transfers targets, etc. would allow Bowyer more time on the coaching staff. But Bowyer must choose the players we sign tho.

We need a new Experience Football administrator to run the club and report directly to the owners NOT Shebby.

Shebby shouldn't be the Chairman of Rovers or be involved in transfers in or out of the club. or have Bowyer, new CEO or Director of Football reporting to him.

Shebby would be better as head of the Rovers Indian Academy.

WBA have this Director of Football/Head Coach structure and its worked there.

Shebby shouldn't be anywhere near any football club full stop.....

Just because he's a fool, doesn't mean he isn't a dishonest fool.

did he not have an hand in some portugese signings ????

[Rover_Shaun]

_{Absolutely no idea if true, but a few people have told me that the plan is to appoint Bowyer as head coach and it to bring in a general manager/director of football (not Shebby) who is experienced and will work with Gary on transfers etc. In addition to this bring in an experienced football administrator. On top of this pyramid would be Shebby to whom everyone will report to, he in turn will be the only one authorised to communicate with the owners.}

_{That is the plan from what people are telling me. Not had it verified yet from any sources in Pune.}

Absolutely frightening. 3 desperate puppets under a muppet