tangerinedreamer Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 We had this discussion on a Blackpool forum a few weeks back and it seem most of our fans would rather have the Venkys. Although they make mistake after mistake, at least they seem willing to spend on players and wages, something we can only dream of. Both owners cost there clubs places in the Premiership IMO, ours by refusing to spend a penny and yours by sacking Fat Sam. The Oystons have milked the club for all the Premier League money, paying Owen 11 million whilst refusing to pay the going rate for players, refusing to invest in the cabbage patch of a pitch, buying land for 650k then selling it to the club for 6.5 million, building hotels with the Premier League revenue, having days when the players are unable to train due to unfit for purpose training facilities. We have needed a striker for 3 years, yet you have them in abundance, transfer fees received are never reinvested and just seem to vanish, we have a stand which is unsafe and dosent seem to be any closer to being repaired. I could go on and on with the list but iam sure you get the jist, all i will say is be careful what you wish for
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DavidMailsTightPerm Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 It is an interesting one for which the phrase frying pan and fire was probably invented. At least under the Oystons you have seen some success - under the venkys it has been all down hill. All comes down to trust - with your lot you know where you stand (though you may not like it) and there is no chance of administration - with our lot it could be administration or could be continued support (though this support only goes as far under writing the debts). At the moment we seem to be in a race to get relegated and be the worst run team in the North West.
broadsword Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 I'd rather have Adolf Hitler in charge than Venky's, never mind Owen Oyston.
Stuart Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 Interesting question. Neither are much cop but do you think Oyston would liquidate the club? Or is he more likely to try to keep it going in the hope he will continue to make him some money? Are your costs (wages) so high that you are losing £2m per month? Has Oyston saddled the club with debt to cover losses? These are the things we worry about. You need to compare also the relative positions of the club under their ownership. In addition Oyston has kept you at the level you started at - even increased your standing. He got you promoted and the football world love plucky Blackpool - the team who play the game the right way. Venkys on the other hand have taken us down about 30 places in the league and have made us a complete laughing stock. When was the last time a Preston fan applied for the manager's job at your club and got the attention of the press? By the way you may be playing on the beach but our pitch isn't that great either. Maybe Appy was sneaking in at night and keaning all over it! EDIT: family show!
Backroom DE. Posted March 28, 2013 Backroom Posted March 28, 2013 Indeed, our pitch will soon rival Blackpool's at this rate. I think it's harsh to say Oyston cost you your place in the Premiership. In a normal season you would have survived with that points tally, and who knows where the club goes from there? It was bad luck. I appreciate things aren't perfect at Blackpool but anybody saying they would rather have Venky's does not fully appreciate what they have done and are continuing to do to Rovers. Appleton chose Venky's over Oyston and it didn't work out so well for him (in terms of his job anyway, a £500k payout for 2 months work ain't bad going admittedly).
tangerinedreamer Posted March 28, 2013 Author Posted March 28, 2013 The Oystons have zero interest in the footballing side of business, what has been achieved is quite remarkable and is down to pure luck not him being shrewd. The club will soon be back in the lower leagues where its budget belongs, sooner or later luck will run out. We were a decent keeper away from staying up, we went in for Shay Given on loan and nearly got him, problem was they wanted 20k a week paid towards his wages and we ony offered 10k, we ended up with a clown in nets who kept making mistakes and got relegated by 1 point. Did i also mention the Oystons charge the club 250k per home game for rental of the stadium?
Backroom DE. Posted March 28, 2013 Backroom Posted March 28, 2013 What are your finances like? Are Blackpool in decent health financially?
tangerinedreamer Posted March 28, 2013 Author Posted March 28, 2013 Apparently so but when you lose out on players to the likes of Peterborough, it makes you wonder. One thing for sure is the Oystons now have a healthier bank balance.
Backroom DE. Posted March 28, 2013 Backroom Posted March 28, 2013 The worst thing about Oyston is his hair.. Nobody can look in the mirror and think that looks decent. And if they do, I wouldn't want them owning my club either, tbf.
tangerinedreamer Posted March 28, 2013 Author Posted March 28, 2013 Looks like he has just got in from a night out, all that money and still a scruffy c**t!
broadsword Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 We can hardly talk, fat lad looks like he was dressed by Stevie wonder. Beware of weird looking owners.
thenodrog Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 Oystons every time. Smart money would suggest that the future of Blackpool is much safer than that of BRFC. I'd go so far as to opine that if all chairman were like Karl Oyston 95% of English football clubs would be in a much better state financially. Agents would of course play bit part roles and need a day job to supplement their champagne lifestyles and footballers would accept far more realsitic remuneration...... Who knows we might even batter teams like Montenegro on the way to winning the World Cup! In my time I have seen many changes in football and apart from the pitches few of them have been for the good.
neophox Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 If we don't had Venky's who would pay the bills?? I don't like their decisions but if they can introduce a organisation with chef executive and a normal board we would arise....when will they learn...
thenodrog Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 If we don't had Venky's who would pay the bills?? Hey another clear thinking advocate of Lancashire County FC.
McClarky Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 Venky's are having to spend big money because of the bad decisions though. If they had put the right things in place they wouldn't be shelling out £2 M a month to keep this club afloat.
windymiller7 Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 Venky's are having to spend big money because of the bad decisions though. If they had put the right things in place they wouldn't be shelling out £2 M a month to keep this club afloat. The right things were already in place, they didn't have to do anything! Instead they shat all over us!
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 Where would we have been without the Walkers...where would Blackpool be without the Oystons? As for the Venky's!!
tangerinedreamer Posted March 28, 2013 Author Posted March 28, 2013 Are you seriously comparing Karl Oyston to Jack Walker?
bypass06 Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 New pitch could boost Blackburn Rovers' Academy hopes http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/blackburn_rovers/news/10321121._/?
Rover_Shaun Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 Are you seriously comparing Karl Oyston to Jack Walker? In their own way the Oystons rescued you from the lower league oblivion you had been in for most of my lifetime and you no longer play in a garden shed
Hanks Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 At the moment I would take the Venkys over the Oyston Clan but only just. A few years ago I was told a story from a Man U fan who was serving them at a restaurant and he was appalled at their attitude and open bragging about how much they were making out of the club and the fans.
tangerinedreamer Posted March 28, 2013 Author Posted March 28, 2013 Jack Walker cared for his club, Oystons bought Blackpool FC for the land the club owned. Its laughable that the Oystons complain and wont deal with agents in the game, yet they are estate agents themselves. Give me the Venkys any day of the week, i think there could well be two sets of fans protesting at the game. Iam hoping our happy clappy fans learn a few things of yours.
Stuart Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 I am hoping our happy clappy fans learn a few things of yours. Sounds like a bending over competition!
CapeTownRover Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 Venkys or Oyston, man what has this world come to lol Neither, both are just not interested, except to cover their own agendas. The only thing with Oyston, is that at least he is more visible than Invisible Venkys. Our owners prefer guest appearances at random times.
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