Mike Graham Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 most of the 'ITK' claimed Shaw had been sack but this hasnt happened and he has just been suspended at the moment. why hasnt he??? I guess that if they suspend, investigate and then dismiss based on facts then they will have a fair dismissal and avoid paying any compensation to Shaw.....this is assuming they have common sense and have acted in such a way as to avoid litigation by Shaw.
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glen9mullan Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 Chaddy , not seen anyone state Shaw had been sacked . All the stories are consistent that he is on gardening leave pending further investigation. This has been getting investigated for about 3 weeks , where the decision to suspend was then made . I think I did say that removals could happen as early as Friday , and today's statement is consistent with what I have heard .
OJRovers Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 Chaddy , not seen anyone state Shaw had been sacked . All the stories are consistent that he is on gardening leave pending further investigation. This has been getting investigated for about 3 weeks , where the decision to suspend was then made . I think I did say that removals could happen as early as Friday , and today's statement is consistent with what I have heard . If Shaw does go soon, which I expect him to, it will make a mockery of today's denial. Don't think we could sink much lower that this.
chaddyrovers Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 people were saying last night he had been sacked on twitter. didnt mention u Glen. i read your tweets and so far you were correct btw
Mike Graham Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 Just to be clear, the Fans Forum didn't receive an email from the club cancelling the meeting...given the current uncertainty (shall we say) around the latest farce and the fact that the club couldn't guarantee that anybody from Board level (or Shebby) would be available, we felt it was best to postpone the meeting until we can secure the attendance of somebody. Saying that, there are other matters which we had hoped to raise and we are working to get a date before the end of the season. Just seen a tweet from Glen Pegden saying the FF meeting was cancelled by the Club due to the departure of Shaw.
Backroom DE. Posted April 4, 2013 Backroom Posted April 4, 2013 If Shaw does go soon, which I expect him to, it will make a mockery of today's denial. Don't think we could sink much lower that this. Think again mate, we've got much further to fall yet
chaddyrovers Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 If Shaw does go soon, which I expect him to, it will make a mockery of today's denial. exactly. if it happens, will just show the club doesnt have a clue wat its doing. but been like this for 18 months.
T.J.Newton Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 Some reports saying Shaw has flown out to India today(he was also spotted buying large quantities of Vaseline at duty free)
Backroom DE. Posted April 4, 2013 Backroom Posted April 4, 2013 Just seen a tweet from Glen Pegden saying the FF meeting was cancelled by the Club due to the departure of Shaw. Glen did indeed state this on twittoh.
glen9mullan Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 I think the problem here is regardless of how severance clauses ended up in bergs contract , they have zero chance of winning the case against berg . They will have to cough up just under a million as in his terms of contract . These pay offs must now be hurting venkys , be that NDAs , sackings , hush money , contract terminations and so on . I guess over the next couple of months we will see how deep those pockets go
Rover_Shaun Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 So this MB is still clinging to the Daily Mail story in vain hope?
blueboy3333 Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 Seems like a coo of sorts has been attempted, the outcome(fallout) is unknown to us though, The message on the rovers site could be misleading, remember how fast messages went up during Appletons appointment from Shaw! which says to me he has easy un-restricted access to getting messages put up on the site. If he does go 'Aggers' MUST go with him, then its just the little Malaysian weasel to deal with! Is that a new kind of tweet?
chaddyrovers Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 wouldnt have needed to pay off 2 managers since kean left if they had appointed experience manager. we would be in the top 6 if Holloway or McCarthy had been appoint instead of Berg and Appleton. we need experience manager in the summer aswell as a good football experience CEO but doubt this will happen tho
Backroom DE. Posted April 4, 2013 Backroom Posted April 4, 2013 Indeed Chaddy. Venky's are architects of their own downfall, as they have been throughout their tenure at the club.
roversfan99 Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 I don't think we would be in the top 6 to be honest. Even with the poor managers, that sets you back so far but I have seen nothing from the players to suggest if managed correctly, they could have been pushing for promotion, maybe mid table. Yes we have had poor managers but one of the worst things they have done is buying poor quality players,
chaddyrovers Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 werent we in the top 6 when kean left. good managers would have got the team promote. simple as
T.J.Newton Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 Is that a new kind of tweet? hehe- I meant coup(coup d'état) werent we in the top 6 when kean left. good managers would have got the team promote. simple as bollards, these players would have got us mid-table at best, regardless of manager.
darrenrover Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 I think the problem here is regardless of how severance clauses ended up in bergs contract , they have zero chance of winning the case against berg . They will have to cough up just under a million as in his terms of contract . These pay offs must now be hurting venkys , be that NDAs , sackings , hush money , contract terminations and so on . I guess over the next couple of months we will see how deep those pockets go You're probably correct but Singh appointed Berg if memory serves me correct. It's inevitable that there would be a considerable pay out following severance of a 2/3 year contract after a couple of months. The sooner he and the other buffoons are run out of town the better.
Backroom DE. Posted April 4, 2013 Backroom Posted April 4, 2013 bollards, these players would have got us mid-table at best, regardless of manager. According to the table posted recently that showed where teams would be in the table based on form since McCarthy/Berg took over Ipswich and ourselves at the beginning of November, Ipswich were 3rd. Their team is no better than ours, and in Rhodes we have something they lack - a good striker who can score goals. No reason to think McCarthy couldn't have gotten us into the top 6 had he been left to do what he does best. Of course, we all know Shebby would have been trying to stick his beak in whenever possible or Shagnew would have been undermining him from day one, depending on who's choice McCarthy would have been. But take these idiots out of the equation and I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest a decent manager could have gotten this rabble into the playoff spots, particularly if Mick had been able to use the Jan transfer window to bring in a few players to bolster the CM positions.
AndyNeil Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 Just seen a tweet from Glen Pegden saying the FF meeting was cancelled by the Club due to the departure of Shaw. Read further on and you'll see his clarification...my original statement stands and is correct. Glen did indeed state this on twittoh. see my response to Mike, DE... hopefully Glenn will be on later to confirm.
roversfan99 Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 werent we in the top 6 when kean left. good managers would have got the team promote. simple as Our players are not better than some of the mediocrity that straddles the other teams in this division, therefore you can surely say this about any team?
T.J.Newton Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 Glen Pegden's one of the true goodNs I think, why anybody would want to try picking fault with him is beyond me.
Backroom DE. Posted April 4, 2013 Backroom Posted April 4, 2013 Read further on and you'll see his clarification...my original statement stands and is correct. see my response to Mike, DE... hopefully Glenn will be on later to confirm. Ah, I've just read the tweet Glenn sent after his original one. Fair enough.
thenodrog Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 werent we in the top 6 when kean left. good managers would have got the team promote. simple as Rubbish. chaddy you are clueless. The squad is nowhere near good enough for promotion as I pointed out months ago. There is not one player that would have got in the squad last time we were promoted.... and we only squeaked in 2nd place behind Fulham and just in front of Bolton.
Backroom DE. Posted April 4, 2013 Backroom Posted April 4, 2013 Rubbish. chaddy you are clueless. The squad is nowhere near good enough for promotion as I pointed out months ago. There is not one player that would have got in the squad last time we were promoted.... and we only squeaked in 2nd place behind Fulham and just in front of Bolton. I agree that there's no chance we could have gotten 1st or 2nd, but I do think with the right manager (someone in the McCarthy mould) we could have sneaked 6th. The teams below 3rd really aren't that good, if they were we wouldn't have been in contention up until a few weeks ago. Not that it matters now. We probably won't even be playing in this division next year.
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