[Archived] Homophobic Banter

[Batman.]

Woosh.

I think you and Paul are talking about something different that me.

Let's leave it there eh, little men.

Yes, I'm talking about the article that suggest that Brighton fans don't like the abuse levelled out them by plebs in the away end. The same article that suggests that they found our fans to be the second most abusive. And, the very same one that states that two Brighton fans were attacked by our fans after the game (although admittedly it doesn't confirm whether this was in any way related to homophobia).

What are you talking about?

[Dunnfc]

Unbelievable. Much like Stu, you're on here suggesting that people should 'toughen up' to abuse at football, yet you go off in a huff when somebody calls you 'stupid?' Do you understand irony? Do you think football fans would be offended if the opposition were singing 'you're stupid, you're stupid....'

I'm not advocating any abuse, I just find it bizarre how shamelessly hypocritical you are.

You directed abuse solely at myself and Stu purely on the basis you disagreed with our opinions, homophobic chanting is directed at Brighton's average gates of 22,000+ in jest, i believe there's a difference, you made it personal.

[Batman.]

You directed abuse solely at myself and Stu purely on the basis you disagreed with our opinions, homophobic chanting is directed at Brighton's average gates of 22,000+ in jest, i believe there's a difference.

I thought that you read the initial article? They obviously don't like it. The chants are intended to suggest that gay people are inferior to straight people. I imagine that any gay people in both ends might be offended by that. If I sing 'in jest' to a crowd with a large of number of black fans "I can see you eating your bananas," or "What's it like to be a slave?" would you be suggesting that they should 'man up.'

That daft statistic that suggests that the culprits of singing the gay chants shouldn't be 'hunted down and arrested' proves nothing. I don't agree with wasting time doing that. They should do what they are doing and name and shame the worst culprits, and we can live with being correctly labelled as homophobic Northern Monkeys, or something.

[Dunnfc]

I thought that you read the initial article? They obviously don't like it. The chants are intended to suggest that gay people are inferior to straight people. I imagine that any gay people in both ends might be offended by that. If I sing 'in jest' to a crowd with a large of number of black fans "I can see you eating your bananas," or "What's it like to be a slave?" would you be suggesting that they should 'man up.'

That daft statistic that suggests that the culprits of singing the gay chants shouldn't be 'hunted down and arrested' proves nothing. I don't agree with wasting time doing that. They should do what they are doing and name and shame the worst culprits, and we can live with being correctly labelled as homophobic Northern Monkeys, or something.

I can see your point but homophobic chanting in most cases is purely "Banter" Nothing More... I struggle to believe that people have taken such an offense to this because it is soft, what is so offensive, wasn't there a Liverpool player who said to someone they were gay and got charged? Madness... The only way to stop homophobic chanting is to make it illegal, i can't see it happening. Did you know as a straight guy i can't enter most bars on canal street half the time because i'm not homosexual?

Racial chanting is a disgrace on the other hand, other races have been fighting for hundreds of years to free themselves of the slave label and inequality and to be classed on par with every other race.

There's a big difference between the two, racial abuse has a strong and emotional history for some.

[Salgado Is A Hero]

It's funny how often it's some of the worst posters on here that criticise the messageboard.

Would I sing it myself? Probably, if there were no kids around, and I'd had a drink.

It's a football match where people don't react the same as in normal situations, I don't really shout abuse if I'm at a footy match, but sometimes I'd shout "ffs ref", or "what the f are you up to Chimbonda". Would I do anything remotely similar in any other situation? Well no, obviously not.

Imo, the terraces are a bit different to normal situations, and if there are no kids present, then there are certain things I would find acceptable that there'd be no way I would outside of a footy match. It was the gay season ticket holders I knew who told me about those chants. They said a few people around them laughed when they first heard the asterisk one. They said barely any found them offensive, and they give it back as good as they got anyway.

[Stuart]

They said barely any found them offensive, and they give it back as good as they got anyway.

Quite right too!

[Batman.]

To change the tact of the discussion, I find it hard to believe that anybody with even the faintest rattle when they shake their head could find the chant 'what's it like to suck a c*ck?' remotely funny. Incredibly simple people.

[LeChuck]

If I'd known that this thread was dominated by people quoting Dunnfc I wouldn't have come here. I've had that tool on ignore for as long as I can remember for his moronic views. One of only two people on the list I might add. Do the same, the messageboard is a much better place.

[Stuart]

To change the tact of the discussion, I find it hard to believe that anybody with even the faintest rattle when they shake their head could find the chant 'what's it like to suck a c*ck?' remotely funny. Incredibly simple people.

Now that I agree with.

[Tom]

To change the tact of the discussion, I find it hard to believe that anybody with even the faintest rattle when they shake their head could find the chant 'what's it like to suck a c*ck?' remotely funny. Incredibly simple people.

In comparison to the infamous Owen Coyle chant a few of our morons sang its pretty much the height of comedy

[Pugg]

I don't know why I bother opening threads like these, I know I'm just gonna get annoyed. Thankfully batman and Paul have pretty much summed things up for me.

No Stuart it isn't acceptable for gay people to dislike or be rude to others based on irrelevant criteria. However if they dislike a straight person because they come out with tripe like dunnfc then it's pretty understandable! Dunnfc that's rubbish about canal street, I have straight male friends who go down there and they don't have any issues. May I suggest that someone that says 'the gays', says they don't like camp men and accuses people of being gay because they aren't homophobic might give off certain vibes to the bouncers down there. There are many other places to drink where you'd feel comfortable. I think it's a good thing that gay people have a safe place to go to drink. It's needed unless society changes massively and gay people wouldn't get beaten up for something so horrific as holding hands.

[Dunnfc]

I personally have my views, nothing I've said has been offensive. I just bear a different opinion to some and perhaps a few people cannot accept that whilst i appreciate alternative views, personal attacks i don't need. I'm not homophobic as some would suggest having a number of close aquittances who are homosexual.

I took a break away from BRFCS earlier this season but i will now be rescinding my membership. It's been a great wee place to share banter and allot of misery! at times. Some great posters on here and some interesting reads. All the best lads because i'm as passionate about this team as you and hope we stay up!

[adopted scouser]

You have acquittancies ? Holy Mackrel ! Are they pansies ?

[owlerton]

Brighton

[PAFELL]

Yes, I'm talking about the article that suggest that Brighton fans don't like the abuse levelled out them by plebs in the away end. The same article that suggests that they found our fans to be the second most abusive. And, the very same one that states that two Brighton fans were attacked by our fans after the game (although admittedly it doesn't confirm whether this was in any way related to homophobia).

What are you talking about?

Only one or two clubs fans have chanted homophobic chants at Brighton home matches. I have heard different with regards to their away matches.

[Batman.]

Only one or two clubs fans have chanted homophobic chants at Brighton home matches. I have heard different with regards to their away matches.

What's your point?

[PAFELL]

It's funny how often it's some of the worst posters on here that criticise the messageboard.

Would I sing it myself? Probably, if there were no kids around, and I'd had a drink.

It's a football match where people don't react the same as in normal situations, I don't really shout abuse if I'm at a footy match, but sometimes I'd shout "ffs ref", or "what the f are you up to Chimbonda". Would I do anything remotely similar in any other situation? Well no, obviously not.

Imo, the terraces are a bit different to normal situations, and if there are no kids present, then there are certain things I would find acceptable that there'd be no way I would outside of a footy match. It was the gay season ticket holders I knew who told me about those chants. They said a few people around them laughed when they first heard the asterisk one. They said barely any found them offensive, and they give it back as good as they got anyway.

You'd find it hard to find a match where kids are not present.

With regards to 'abusive chants' I wonder at times why folk feel the need to do it. I see no point to them. It is not as though it encourages players to play better etc etc. I came to the conclusion that folk chant abusive stuff at matches - because there is nowhere else in society where folk can do it. What other sporting event does it happen? Where else in society is it permitted, apart from football matches.

But there will always be a case that what is offensive to one person is not to another. I recall a time when another bloke would tell somebody using foul language in front of women, to apologise. That rarely happens today. Society has changed and will always change.

What's your point?

My point is the article is wrong about Brighton home matches. The homophobic chants at Brighton home matches is rare - not as often as some media have suggested.

[Plastic Head]

I still haven't forgiven BAHA for the 1978 smoke bomb incident so kean 'em.

If this is all we have to worry about things can't be too bad eh?

[Aberdeen Blue]

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If this is all we have to worry about things can't be too bad eh?

Absolutely, the club is going to hell in a handcart yet we have 5 pages over a storm in a teapot; sorry, teacup!

[Ewood Spark]

This thread has been great for 'outing' the terminally stupid.

[thenodrog]

This thread has been great for 'outing' the terminally stupid.

No need for this thread when so many without an original thought in the heads have queued up to out themselves on the Lancashire thread.

[ABBEY]

This thread has been great for 'outing' the terminally stupid.

you have been outed a lot longer than this thread to be fair.

[Mike E]

Wow.....hard to believe some of the stuff on here. The suggestion that campness is an 'act' being the baffling one for me. There are straight people who act very camply, so I see campness as someone's general demeanour rather than 'coz ther gay lolz'. I think it's a bit inappropriate to label someone who is effeminate as 'gay'.

I can understand campness being the subject of joshing (hate the word banter). However, whether sexuality a choice or not, it shouldn't be mocked either way.