[Archived] Investigate or we'll publish Blackburn Rovers findings, warns Mullan

[Mullionvagrant]

I guess so.

Unless it is proved that many of the groups/businesses owned or in partnership with them are inter-linked and money/assets have been moved between each/used to support each one.

I.e players owned by one business but introduced by another in the group etc...

Simply not a s simple as one name- and to suggest otherwise would be perhaps too convenient for those involved.

[Mike E]

Wasn't specifically aimed at you(or anybody in particular) sorry cocker

and give over, 59(if your profile age is correct!) is not "Elderly"

HA! Highlighting her age on a fans forum? People normally dig when they're already IN a hole

[K-Hod]

I assume that if Kentaro fold then any investigation which might happen would be quashed? Leaving the people running it free of any baggage and able to start up a new company?

Interesting timing of the folding with the threat of revelations....

[Andy]

In my opinion, if there was any sure sign of guilt and liability, that would be it...

[T.J.Newton]

Can someone please sum up any non football related changes that have happened at the club since this thread was 1st started?

[47er]

I'm not sure what you want me to say 47er. I've never said the Raos are "merely incompetent". Far from it. All I can do is repeat what I did say and that is, as far as the idea that the Raos aren't the real owners of the club, I've not seen the slightest bit of evidence that says they aren't. That isn't to say there isn't evidence in the hands of someone else, but until someone points that evidence my way, I'll be in the dubious camp.

I think at least we can say there has been undue influence exercised over the Club, whether its sufficiently so as to be illegal or whether it breaks the rules is what Glen and Co are trying to have determined.You'd have to agree lots of things don't sit right, goes beyond stupidity?

Failure to sack Shaw is a classic in this regard.

[MrT]

Can someone please sum up any non football related changes that have happened at the club since this thread was 1st started?

Zilch, Nada and Zero !!!

[Exiled in Toronto]

I think at least we can say there has been undue influence exercised over the Club, whether its sufficiently so as to be illegal or whether it breaks the rules is what Glen and Co are trying to have determined.You'd have to agree lots of things don't sit right, goes beyond stupidity?

Failure to sack Shaw is a classic in this regard.

Given Kamy's comment on the Bowyer thread re what he's heard about a new structure, it could also be either Shaw has been sacked and is working notice until replaced, or hasn't but will be when new people appointed.

[T.J.Newton]

Zilch, Nada and Zero !!!

Are they shabbys next 3 'development squad' recruits?

[ABBEY]

Can someone please sum up any non football related changes that have happened at the club since this thread was 1st started?

Easy you come on this thread 30 times a day moaning about brag , you then say you are not posting anymore but still do and you've been trying to grasp the ignore button but failed embarrassingly .

[broadsword]

Given Kamy's comment on the Bowyer thread re what he's heard about a new structure, it could also be either Shaw has been sacked and is working notice until replaced, or hasn't but will be when new people appointed.

I may well be wide of the mark here; but if Shaw's been a norty boy, then surely he would be summarily dismissed without notice.

Look at it this way, he's a company director who Venky's have stated ina court of law they can't control, would thye be happy for him to work his notice inside the building? At the very minimum it's a case for gardening leave. With some judicious use of secatuers involved too, perhaps.

[Exiled in Toronto]

I may well be wide of the mark here; but if Shaw's been a norty boy, then surely he would be summarily dismissed without notice.

Look at it this way, he's a company director who Venky's have stated ina court of law they can't control, would thye be happy for him to work his notice inside the building? At the very minimum it's a case for gardening leave. With some judicious use of secatuers involved too, perhaps.

Or maybe he had some justification and they accepted his point? I have no idea what happened but am not sure the default explanation is that a two-bob Preston shelf salesman is the epicentre of a global money laundering scam

[den]

I think at least we can say there has been undue influence exercised over the Club, whether its sufficiently so as to be illegal or whether it breaks the rules is what Glen and Co are trying to have determined.You'd have to agree lots of things don't sit right, goes beyond stupidity?

Failure to sack Shaw is a classic in this regard.

Well yeah, everything else they've done is mightily suspect. You should know my views about the Raos 47er. I don't believe a single word they say, and I don't trust them for one minute. I do believe though, that they were persuaded to buy the club by a certain person who can't be named - and that they didn't have a clue what they were getting into. That's been my belief from day one and it's never changed.

Dodgy transfers, dodgy dealings all around, lies etc - very likely.

[broadsword]

Or maybe he had some justification and they accepted his point? I have no idea what happened but am not sure the default explanation is that a two-bob Preston shelf salesman is the epicentre of a global money laundering scam

I think that's an extreme way of characterising the view-point, somewhat unnecessarily too. If anything untoward is going on then I'd suggest Shaw is the patsy. Can't quite see him motoring around in an electric wheelchair with a white cat on his lap, although the Chairman Mao suit and white loafers would suit him quite well.

Shaw's just cost them an additional £1.4m, has he not? They've defended themselves in court by saying that Shaw is off the reservation ... I'm struggling at the moment how Shaw could stay at the club by ringing up "Madame" and providing a reasonable explanation for blowing a hole in their finances and making them look utter morons in court. "Sorry Madame, I was working in Dinari and forgot to convert the currency back."; "Oh, why didn't you say so before, Derek? Oh in that case, we're happy to keep you, let's forget about everything and give you a pay-rise to boot."

[J*B]

http://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1e8ncw/explaining_the_falcao_move_to_monaco/

[Salgado Is A Hero]

Good read that.

Monaco's owner is Russian I think and he apparently said he wants to "crush" PSG. The French League could actually be interesting next year.

[RevidgeBlue]

Or maybe he had some justification and they accepted his point? I have no idea what happened but am not sure the default explanation is that a two-bob Preston shelf salesman is the epicentre of a global money laundering scam

- supposedly acting at the behest of people he has never actually met or come into contact with.

[perthblue02]

- supposedly acting at the behest of people he has never actually met or come into contact with.

Debatable if he has met any of them, but does he need to if his mate has and he's bottom of the line of command

[RevidgeBlue]

Debatable if he has met any of them, but does he need to if his mate has and he's bottom of the line of command

By the same token, if there any actual evidence there is any connection at all between Agnew and the people you are talking about?.

If there is, fair enough. But Agnew was used by us as a Press officer long before Venky's took over the Club.

[perthblue02]

By the same token, if there any actual evidence there is any connection at all between Agnew and the people you are talking about?.

If there is, fair enough. But Agnew was used by us as a Press officer long before Venky's took over the Club.

Yes he was as a contractor and only became an employee once the board that had seen fit not to give him any employed role where he could make any decision on the clubs behalf , had nearly all been disposed of.

I'm sure in time the evidence you require will appear

[RevidgeBlue]

Yes he was as a contractor and only became an employee once the board that had seen fit not to give him any employed role where he could make any decision on the clubs behalf , had nearly all been disposed of.

I'm sure in time the evidence you require will appear

Could that not be equally well explained by him doing some serious brown nosing in the new owners' direction given their fairly obvious ineptitude?

[perthblue02]

Could that not be equally well explained by him doing some serious brown nosing in the new owners' direction given their fairly obvious ineptitude?

It could be yes but which ones initially, obviously needs to pay lip service to the others. Surely you do not ask people to turn their attention on the on paper owners and away from a poor little dignified football manager if you think your job would be at stake do you?

Of course it's all circumstantial at the moment , so let's wait and see what a wonderful lifelong Rovers supporter has done in the best interests of the club.

[gumboots]

Wasn't specifically aimed at you(or anybody in particular) sorry cocker

and give over, 59(if your profile age is correct!) is not "Elderly"

I'm quite flattered you bothered to check. And whilst you are right, 59 is not always elderly, (for example I ate out yesterday in a hotel where I felt like a spring chicken as the rest of the clientele were at least 70) on the other hand it's elderly enough to feel that the term mate is not appropriate.

[Proudtobeblue&white]

I'm just looking forward to some good news, other than avoiding relegation, there has been precious little. We are into those becalmed waters, where after we all thought Shaw (and by association the Shadow) couldn't possibly survive public humiliation in court it's all gone a bit quiet. But in the the land of the Loons, we have come to expect the expected (clueless), unexpected (almost everything) and downright illogical (the rest). Whilst those clubs with a semblance of common are preparing for next season, we are doing bugger all! Another day, another peek at the La La's!

[Exiled in Toronto]

I think that's an extreme way of characterising the view-point, somewhat unnecessarily too. If anything untoward is going on then I'd suggest Shaw is the patsy. Can't quite see him motoring around in an electric wheelchair with a white cat on his lap, although the Chairman Mao suit and white loafers would suit him quite well.

Shaw's just cost them an additional £1.4m, has he not? They've defended themselves in court by saying that Shaw is off the reservation ... I'm struggling at the moment how Shaw could stay at the club by ringing up "Madame" and providing a reasonable explanation for blowing a hole in their finances and making them look utter morons in court. "Sorry Madame, I was working in Dinari and forgot to convert the currency back."; "Oh, why didn't you say so before, Derek? Oh in that case, we're happy to keep you, let's forget about everything and give you a pay-rise to boot."

This is what I don't get though: if they don't own the club he didn't cost them anything, he cost the real owners 1.4 million.