[Archived] Investigate or we'll publish Blackburn Rovers findings, warns Mullan

[perthblue02]

And heres another one of Tantric's friends who we were offered to http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/8861327.Bassini_did_consider_Blackburn_Rovers_bid/ who fell foul of football regs http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/mar/18/watford-former-owner-banned-three-years

[arbitro]

And heres another one of Tantric's friends who we were offered to http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/8861327.Bassini_did_consider_Blackburn_Rovers_bid/ who fell foul of football regs http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/mar/18/watford-former-owner-banned-three-years

I heard that a former LT journo met this guy and was told by him that in the contract of sale was a clause that Kean was to become manager should he buy the club.

[dave birch]

I heard that a former LT journo met this guy and was told by him that in the contract of sale was a clause that Kean was to become manager should he buy the club.

Get that in writing and it's all over.

[philipl]

I heard that a former LT journo met this guy and was told by him that in the contract of sale was a clause that Kean was to become manager should he buy the club.

Hmm, there is also apparently a copy of document of ownership by he who he shall not be named in the same place.

Lips have been concreted shut so this will not come out from that source..

There's an angle here I don't think has been explored. I've not been 100% convinced by the alternative owner theory, but what's to stop Venkys "outsourcing" management of the club to a 3rd party. Venkys would get the kudos and publicity of owning a premier league team (no relegation) while the 3rd party would act on behalf of the club for all transfers. Siphoning cash out this way, and also making sure any players they represented, or had a stake in were at the front of the queue.

I believe Venkys panicked post relegation after they began to realise they were being taken for a ride. They hired Shebby to represent them in the UK to make sure what they were being told matched up with reality. It didn't, but they didn't have the wherewithal to fire Kean, being reliant as they were on others to run the club. The only thing they could do is have Shebby make his position so untenable that he walked.

Since then we pretty much know the story of the 2 factions in the boardroom squabbling about who runs the club. I believe Venkys are desperate for an exit strategy as they're haemoraging cash but at the same time don't want to lose face - the importance of which I don't think can be underestimated.

I think this is very much what we have been looking at ever since Venky's took over. The money flows suggest ownership as well until last summer.

[philipl]

Didn't Shah's consortium include a Spanish shipping tycoon?

Don't know if it ever was confirmed who the Aussie consortium was but one of the rumours here was Frank Lowy was involved, head of Football Federation Australia and estimated Personal wealth of over 5 billion (au$),who later in 2010 was linked to Leeds

Oh well, Jerome, his foot soldiers and the walker trust knew best

I don't know about a Spaniard but Shah did put a very impressive consortium together but sadly after Walker Trust had contracted the sale to Jerome's people (as in Jerome pocketed massive selling agent fees). I think the dirty might also have been done on Saurin Shah from the UK end as well- it is possible.

[dave birch]

Perthblue, it was rumoured to be Frank Lowy, but nothing has ever been produced to prove the fact.

It's a big shame, as he would have been the person I'd like as the owner of the Rovers.

a "football" man.

interested in progressing the game.

Would be a great outlet for some of the football talent down under.

a businessman, with a great business brain.

would not part with his money unnecessarily

to me an update of Jack Walker, without the Rovers connection.

[Exiled in Toronto]

I don't know about a Spaniard but Shah did put a very impressive consortium together but sadly after Walker Trust had contracted the sale to Jerome's people (as in Jerome pocketed massive selling agent fees). I think the dirty might also have been done on Saurin Shah from the UK end as well- it is possible.

Given the quote from Bassini in that article, "Bassini said: “I was offered Blackburn Rovers, as Jerome Anderson is a good friend of mine", it sounds like the Trust abrogated all involvement in the sale process.

[philipl]

Anderson convinced Rothschilds he could find a buyer.

Rothschilds took the lazy approach and told the Trust to go with Anderson after signing up to pay a stonking finder's fee and without blocking a buyer's fee so Anderson fed from both hands apparently.

Anderson flogged the club to his mates with an agenda which would never have been agreed by the Trust, the Premier League or the FA had it been made explicit.

[Guest Norbert]

Is there definative proof of this conflict of interests? And could it prove to be fatal for Anderson, Venky's et al, or just 'a bit naughty'?

[Majiball]

Anderson playing both ends has been knowledge for ages and one assumes that if it could have been used against him it would as that surely is provable?

[RevidgeBlue]

Anderson convinced Rothschilds he could find a buyer.

Rothschilds took the lazy approach and told the Trust to go with Anderson after signing up to pay a stonking finder's fee and without blocking a buyer's fee so Anderson fed from both hands apparently.

Anderson flogged the club to his mates with an agenda which would never have been agreed by the Trust, the Premier League or the FA had it been made explicit.

Just so we know we're you're coming from, who in your view were Anderson's "mates" prior to sale and what precisely is the agenda to which you refer?

[philipl]

Just so we know we're you're coming from, who in your view were Anderson's "mates" prior to sale and what precisely is the agenda to which you refer?

Well Rev, if you flick back through these pages you will see that the former chairman of Watford was offered Rovers by Mr Anderson.

I might be mistaken but I believe the Raos eventually bought Rovers and that Mr Anderson has agreed he took a fee for introducing them.

Perhaps you have forgotten the sight of Mr Anderson and Balaji filmed on TV having a hilarious time together in the Walker Suite during a League Cup tie long after his association with Rovers was terminated according to both him and Mrs D- not that either of them could agree the date he was supposed to be no longer involved.

The explanation was that Balaji and Anderson have been close mates "for years" so why shouldn't they have been filmed behaving like a pair of demented school kids in the tuck shop at Ewood?

The agenda is pretty plain to anyone who follows Rovers closely. The facts are that Sam Allardyce was fired, that the mind bogglingly ill-equipped and inappropriate Steve Kean was promoted three levels beyond any semblence of level of competence purely because he was an SEM client, that John Williams wrote asking what Anderson's role was because he was issuing instructions without a Board mandate, that the superb team of Williams, Finn and Goodman were all eased out (why else were they all compensated for loss of office), that there was an attempt to sign Formica on a third party ownership deal centred in the Cayman Islands that the Premier League blocked, oh and Myles Anderson was signed (cue a tearful Jerome).

I would say you can take all those Anderson-acknowledged hard evidenced facts together and say that they amount to an agenda and I am sure you agree with me 100%.

Don't need to dip into the BRFCAG dossier to answer those sorts of questions. Agents fees went through the roof but the exact track of the money go round associated with this will have to wait for anyone of the numerous people who know the tracks to stick their head above the parapet.

[RevidgeBlue]

Well, that doesn't answer my question as to who Anderson was pals with BEFORE the takeover. If he was so close to the Rao's and it's all one big conspiracy, why was he offering the Club around to all and sundry apart from them pre takeover?

As for what happened post takeover you are conveniently ignoring the fact that Anderson has gone on record stating he advised the owners NOT to sack Allardyce.

And in light of what has happened post takeover you still haven't explained what the alleged agenda is. To lose shedloads of money?

On a minor point, how come Formica is actually here if he is subject to the ownership concerns you alleged?

[philipl]

Well, that doesn't answer my question as to who Anderson was pals with BEFORE the takeover. If he was so close to the Rao's and it's all one big conspiracy, why was he offering the Club around to all and sundry apart from them pre takeover?

As for what happened post takeover you are conveniently ignoring the fact that Anderson has gone on record stating he advised the owners NOT to sack Allardyce.

And in light of what has happened post takeover you still haven't explained what the alleged agenda is. To lose shedloads of money?

On a minor point, how come Formica is actually here if he is subject to the ownership concerns you alleged?

Formica - was put on the web site at the time. The Venky's model was to lease players. The SEM/Kentaro model was to own the players. The Premier League blocked the Formica deal. Formica then was attempted to be leased through the murky depths of Red Star Belgrade. That didn't work for the Premier League either. So Formica was sold by his Argentine owners to another agent then to his club and then to Rovers. Mrs D had to write the cheque but she understood the money was coming back to her in double quick time... I wonder how?

Anderson also said Myles was a Premier League footballer. The whole deal was premised on Allardyce being pushed out. Let's get into the real world rev.

As for the rest I will leave you labouring. Most other readers have worked it out for themselves.

[pk1875]

Even Andy Cole knew Big Sam was to be sacked and Kean replace him months before it happened.

Everyone, including Sam, is stunned. I'm not, because a trusted little bird told me two months ago what was going to happen.

He said that the club would be taken over by an Indian company and that Sam would be pushed aside, to be replaced by the coach Steve Kean. I

http://www.thenational.ae/thenationalconversation/sport-comment/steve-kean-can-do-job-at-blackburn

[GanG2245]

May be this is part of a bigger plan to convert black money to white money.

[RoverScot]

Even Andy Cole knew Big Sam was to be sacked and Kean replace him months before it happened.

Everyone, including Sam, is stunned. I'm not, because a trusted little bird told me two months ago what was going to happen.

He said that the club would be taken over by an Indian company and that Sam would be pushed aside, to be replaced by the coach Steve Kean. I

http://www.thenational.ae/thenationalconversation/sport-comment/steve-kean-can-do-job-at-blackburn

Did Andy Cole know because he was asked to provide a reference for Steve Kean? In say a 'positive' Steve Kean assessment dossier presented to the Raos from Kentaro? Andy Cole would say something like "yeah, training was really fun in the mid 2000's under Kean' which then was extrapolated alongside other 'positive' statements as a justification for him to take the manager role?

Kean gave this as a reason why Venkys were so interested in him in the Kamy interview alongside references from Edwin Van der Sar etc. In the same interview he also let slip that he talked about the managerial role with the brothers at the Aston Villa game - three weeks before Allardyce was fired.

[Exiled in Toronto]

Anderson convinced Rothschilds he could find a buyer.

Rothschilds took the lazy approach and told the Trust to go with Anderson after signing up to pay a stonking finder's fee and without blocking a buyer's fee so Anderson fed from both hands apparently.

Anderson flogged the club to his mates with an agenda which would never have been agreed by the Trust, the Premier League or the FA had it been made explicit.

That's what happens if you don't pay attention to the details and just hand something off with no proper oversight. Presumably the trust had better things to do than worry about the hundreds of jobs at the Rovers they put in the hands of a member of the sleaziest profession on the planet.

[T.J.Newton]

Even Andy Cole knew Big Sam was to be sacked and Kean replace him months before it happened.

Everyone, including Sam, is stunned. I'm not, because a trusted little bird told me two months ago what was going to happen.

He said that the club would be taken over by an Indian company and that Sam would be pushed aside, to be replaced by the coach Steve Kean. I

http://www.thenational.ae/thenationalconversation/sport-comment/steve-kean-can-do-job-at-Blackburn

sorry, that's old news mate, that articles been knocking around for years.

[philipl]

sorry, that's old news mate, that articles been knocking around for years.

But Rev had clearly forgotten.

What is clear is that there was a conspiracy which involved Steve Kean before Venky's bought the club and that Sam Allardyce was to be removed regardless.

Talking of forgetting, I had forgotten that Kamy interview with Kean in which Kean confirmed his involvement in the Sam sacking by revealing the conversation at the Villa game.

Now would it be a surprise if Agnew were a part of this as well given his prominent appearance in that TV clip and his subsequent hiring, promotion and longevity?

[Exiled in Toronto]

But Rev had clearly forgotten.

What is clear is that there was a conspiracy which involved Steve Kean before Venky's bought the club and that Sam Allardyce was to be removed regardless.

Now would it be a surprise if Agnew were a part of this as well given his prominent appearance in that TV clip and his subsequent hiring, promotion and longevity?

Conspiracy implies illegality. Agreeing beforehand with key players as to who will do what afterwards happens all the time.

[philipl]

Conspiracy implies illegality. Agreeing beforehand with key players as to who will do what afterwards happens all the time.

Chose the word carefully. Where does the SEM/Kentaro Plan A comply with FA and PL rules?

How come Venky's made a string of statements which turned to a set of utter lies within two months?

Conspiracy to deceive the sellers, the football authorities and the fans. For sure.

[Roost]

Even Andy Cole knew Big Sam was to be sacked and Kean replace him months before it happened. Everyone, including Sam, is stunned. I'm not, because a trusted little bird told me two months ago what was going to happen.

He said that the club would be taken over by an Indian company and that Sam would be pushed aside, to be replaced by the coach Steve Kean. I

http://www.thenational.ae/thenationalconversation/sport-comment/steve-kean-can-do-job-at-blackburn

It may be that Andrew Cole wanted to give he impression he was ITK - don't know why he would but he is a footballer after all. I wonder if anyone has ever asked him who his 'trusted little bird' was?

[philipl]

There is plenty of stuff that backs up Andy Cole and his little bird.

Nixon let it slip as well long before it happened and he was almost certainly on the inside of Anderson in those days.

[Roost]

There is plenty of stuff that backs up Andy Cole and his little bird.

Nixon let it slip as well long before it happened and he was almost certainly on the inside of Anderson in those days.

Yes there is.

I wonder who his snitch is?