[Archived] Baroness Thatcher Dies

[ABBEY]

Was you even born?

[Alex Rover]

Miners Strike 1984/85

Scargill, what a moron. Sheer incompetence. The other day I was thinking of a parallel to compare Venky's to, I couldn't come up with one until now. Cheers.

[Mike Graham]

Scargill, what a moron. Sheer incompetence. The other day I was thinking of a parallel to compare Venky's to, I couldn't come up with one until now. Cheers.

what about Cameron or Osborne. I met Cameron 2 months ago I washed my hands and checked my wallet after leaving No10.

[Audax]

My deepest sympathies.

[Mike E]

Was you even born?

No I wasn't. But about 80% of my family were. Most of them are labour supporters but they take the view that while they hated her policies at the time, they acknowledge they were an means to an end that has benefited us. Having read about her politics, I can understand that conclusion.

[SouthAussieRover]

The beers tasting good tonight.

[Alex Rover]

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”

― Margaret Thatcher

[bellamy11]

RIP Maggie. You were a cow but we knew where we stood with you. More than can be said for anyone in politics since.

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/people-with-no-idea-who-thatcher-was-ecstatic-that-shes-dead-2013040865066

[forumquizmaster]

May I remind everyone of the words of Martin Luther King.
"I will mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy".
Wise words, but difficult to adhere to on a day like this I'm afraid, and Maggie always does/did bring out the absolute worst in me.
So for the record, my condolences to her family, but back to the barbed comments and jokes again now...

[Mike E]

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/people-with-no-idea-who-thatcher-was-ecstatic-that-shes-dead-2013040865066

Okay I appreciate I shouldn't have used personal pronouns. But surely I can have an opinion on her politics, given the quotes and videos of her that are widely available?

Also, I don't recall 'rejoicing in her death' at any point.

[USABlue]

She was THE main reason I bailed form England at the time, no tears will be shed here. Despised the woman.

Thatchers been in Hell 20 mins and already shut 3 furnaces

Funny that.

[Salgado Is A Hero]

When I realised Margaret Thatcher was dead,I did a double fist pump and shouted "f**king brilliant"

Everyone around me was disgusted, and looking back, I suppose it was out of order.

Especially as I was the first paramedic at the scene.

Her relationship with General Pinochet tells you all you need to know about her.

[jim mk2]

"It’s a great day for all the miners, I imagine we will have a counter demonstration when they have her funeral. Our children have got no jobs and the community is full of problems. There’s no work and no money and it’s very sad the legacy she has left behind.”

David Hopper, general secretary of the Durham Miners’ Association, speaking today

[1864roverite]

It's not left wing bile. She destroyed communities, families and lives

And she also put this country back on its feet, keaned the Argies and in general made the world take note of GREAT BRITAIN.

Whatever your thoughts, not one single person who has been in power since has had the balls or temerity to run this country the way she did instead we have nothing but elected @#/? idiots ruining on a day to day basis.

Thatcher or Blair, Kinnock, Brown, Smith or Milliband ?

Mrs T wins hands down each and every time.

How pure scum like Adams can come out and slate her is beyond belief the murdering Irish scrote. You may mock her but of the country had leadership like her we wouldnt be in half the mess we find ourselves in because of Labour scumbags and Tory incompetents.

Shows how thick the miners really were when they trusted Old Arty Scargill management and leadership ! They followed a born loser and lost.

Kinnock the pillock showed his skills by continually losing out to her.

Not one Labour contender can walk in her shadow, FACT.

[Stuart]

Oops.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/08/conservatives-outraged-over-cnn-photo-of-thatcher-with-pedophile-jimmy-savile/

[Doug]

And she also put this country back on its feet, keaned the Argies and in general made the world take note of GREAT BRITAIN.

Whatever your thoughts, not one single person who has been in power since has had the balls or temerity to run this country the way she did instead we have nothing but elected @#/? idiots ruining on a day to day basis.

Thatcher or Blair, Kinnock, Brown, Smith or Milliband ?

Mrs T wins hands down each and every time.

How pure scum like Adams can come out and slate her is beyond belief the murdering Irish scrote. You may mock her but of the country had leadership like her we wouldnt be in half the mess we find ourselves in because of Labour scumbags and Tory incompetents.

Shows how thick the miners really were when they trusted Old Arty Scargill management and leadership ! They followed a born loser and lost.

Kinnock the pillock showed his skills by continually losing out to her.

Not one Labour contender can walk in her shadow, FACT.

Well said that man.

[Jock]

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”

― Margaret Thatcher

A socialist is someone who has nothing and wants to share it with everyone.

[thenodrog]

For me the sad thing is that I believe that she is the last conviction PM we will see, from either side, everyone since has been god awful grey-suited career politicians.

Amen to that.

She inherited an absolute car crash from Callaghan and left a much much stronger country 11 years later. In fact the complete opposite of the New Labour decade.

I will say no more cos this thread has already and predictably become disrespectful.

[Mike E]

"It’s a great day for all the miners, I imagine we will have a counter demonstration when they have her funeral. Our children have got no jobs and the community is full of problems. There’s no work and no money and it’s very sad the legacy she has left behind.”

David Hopper, general secretary of the Durham Miners’ Association, speaking today

Aye it's a great day when somebody dies. Classless prick (meaning Hopper, not you Jim).

This celebration of somebody's death is a bit weird imo. Guess it really shows my youth in that I can only read about what she did/achieved.

[Paul]

It's not left wing bile. She destroyed communities, families and lives

And she also put this country back on its feet, keaned the Argies and in general made the world take note of GREAT BRITAIN.

Whatever your thoughts, not one single person who has been in power since has had the balls or temerity to run this country the way she did instead we have nothing but elected @#/? idiots ruining on a day to day basis.

Thatcher or Blair, Kinnock, Brown, Smith or Milliband ?

Mrs T wins hands down each and every time.How pure scum like Adams can come out and slate her is beyond belief the murdering Irish scrote. You may mock her but of the country had leadership like her we wouldnt be in half the mess we find ourselves in because of Labour scumbags and Tory incompetents.

Shows how thick the miners really were when they trusted Old Arty Scargill management and leadership ! They followed a born loser and lost.

Kinnock the pillock showed his skills by continually losing out to her.

Not one Labour contender can walk in her shadow, FACT.

Thing is with this sort of language it makes the opinion valueless

[broadsword]

A counter demonstration? What will that achieve? Hardly a positive step. I can understand the anger of a community that's had its heart ripped out, but comments like these do no-one any good.

She showed no compunction or compassion in re-structuring the economy, having said that, the UK was an absolute basket case in 1979. She was never my cup of tea, but I'd find rejoicing in someone's death demeaning.

I think she was quite pally with Rupert Murdoch, certainly he appreciated her destroying the unions as he relocated to Wapping.

She sold so many state assets and created the "Big Bang" in the City, yuppies, free markets and "greed is good", this opening out of the stock market created a monster that was hard to tame, and she arguably sowed the seeds of the credit crunch.

I can understand the anger, but gloating at someone's death is not good.

* and regarding the Falkland's War, there's a suspicion she knew that they would invade and sat on her hands, precipitating the conflict in a cynical bid for re-election, not sure whether that's true or not, but I can believe it. I've also seen a clip of her being interviewed on Nationwide, where someone called in and cornered her over the Belgrano sinking. She had no answer to the accusation that the belgrano was moving out of UK territorial waters when it was sunk.

** and let's not forget the arms sales.

[Paul Mellelieu]

Let's not forget that Thatcher was the most unpopular PM is history until she send hundreds of young men to death in the south Atlantic, where the use of force could have been avoided.

At the time over three million people were unemployed, rising to over four million, leaving many communities, which hitherto had been hard working, left with nothing. The results of her economic violence are still with us. Let's also remember her support for Pinochet, the poll tax, section 28, Hillsborough, the inner-city riots, the wasted generation.

Tories appeal to the worse aspects of people: greed, envy and scapegoating.

My overwhelming feeling is one of despair of over a decade in which her backward, spiteful government ruined the lives of millions, with not a single pause for thought of the impact on their free market 'experiment'.

[adopted scouser]

* and regarding the Falkland's War, there's a suspicion she knew that they would invade and sat on her hands, precipitating the conflict in a cynical bid for re-election, not sure whether that's true or not, but I can believe it. I've also seen a clip of her being interviewed on Nationwide, where someone called in and cornered her over the Belgrano sinking. She had no answer to the accusation that the belgrano was moving out of UK territorial waters when it was sunk.

** and let's not forget the arms sales.

What was to stop the Belgrano returning ? They were the aggressors, @#/? to them. Remember that Exocet at Goose Green ?

[broadsword]

The one that hit the Sheffield?

Yes, they were the occupying force, the aggressors. I don't think they expected the UK forces to bother with it, that we would just let them have the islands.

But, and i was only young when it happened, so my memory is hazy, but from what I recall there was an exclusion zone, and any ship entering was fair game. A ship leaving I don't think was.

* By the way, I was walking around Paris one weekend, when I saw two fellas stood next to me wearing baseball caps that showed them to be Falklands veterans, a very strange feeling, I just said nothing.

[jim mk2]

Parties going on in Glasgow tonight and into the wee hours. Come and join us.