[Archived] Shebby Singh

[danger19_80]

Don't be so sensitive. He was very clearly on our side.

[Athlete]

  On 25/03/2013 at 20:19, den said:

Apart from the years we played in Europe? Guess he didn't notice them.

thats what people forget the Souness , Hughes years

[John]

Finished 10th under Big Sam, they got the intro wrong the tools.

[Amo]

  On 25/03/2013 at 20:22, danger19_80 said:

Don't be so sensitive. He was very clearly on our side.

Not sensitive, just stating a fact.

[Athlete]

  On 25/03/2013 at 20:22, danger19_80 said:

Don't be so sensitive. He was very clearly on our side.

yes but his facts were wrong

[chaddyrovers]

  On 25/03/2013 at 20:24, John said:

Finished 10th under Big Sam, they got the intro wrong the tools.

but we were 13th when Big Sam was sacked.

time for the UK government to put new laws in place for Football ownership of UK club.

where is the FA, PL and FL on the ownership of BRFC???

what has actually happen to BRFCAG meetings with these people??? any follow up meetings?

[Hasta]

At least Motty is one of the few people who dares to suggest "agents ... and one in particular" could be to blame.

[danger19_80]

  On 25/03/2013 at 20:33, Hasta said:

At least Motty is one of the few people who dares to suggest "agents ... and one in particular" could be to blame.

Spot on.

[Athlete]

  On 25/03/2013 at 20:33, Hasta said:

At least Motty is one of the few people who dares to suggest "agents ... and one in particular" could be to blame.

came close to naming him

[LeChuck]

  On 25/03/2013 at 20:17, Athlete said:

Motsons a C*** as well

best we could expect what about The Hughes , Souness years

The Hughes and Souness years where we finished mid-table you mean?

[Stuart]

Can't stand Motson - even just his voice grates.

The thought of listening to Motson interviewing Shebby makes me feel ill. Think I'll wait for the transcript "highlights".

[LeChuck]

  On 25/03/2013 at 20:20, Amarillo said:

So we weren't a European, top-six team under Souness or Hughes then?

Finishing sixth twice in the last 10 years doesn't make us a top six team. Nobody but a Rovers fan would try to claim we were anything other than a mid-table PL club. A top six club is one that can challenge for the top six places, not just sixth place itself. We managed to grab their coat tails a couple of times. It's very different.

That's not to put us down. There are very few clubs who could claim to be solid mid-table Premier League clubs. It's still elite company. But let's not make out we were something we weren't.

[danger19_80]

Couldn't agree more Le Chuck. Few on here need a (former) reality check.

[Amo]

  On 25/03/2013 at 20:55, LeChuck said:

Finishing sixth twice in the last 10 years doesn't make us a top six team. Nobody but a Rovers fan would try to claim we were anything other than a mid-table PL club. A top six club is one that can challenge for the top six places, not just sixth place itself. We managed to grab their coat tails a couple of times. It's very different.

That's not to put us down. There are very few clubs who could claim to be solid mid-table Premier League clubs. It's still elite company. But let's not make out we were something we weren't.

We weren't a mid-table side "AT BEST" if we enjoyed top six finishes after the 1995 title win, are we?

Motty was wrong. You're wrong. The whole system's wrong.

[den]

  On 25/03/2013 at 20:55, LeChuck said:

Finishing sixth twice in the last 10 years doesn't make us a top six team.

Of course it did. I think Motson was quoted as saying "at best....we were a mid table team. It's all a bit picky, but he was clearly wrong. At best we were indeed a top six club.

[philipl]

Transition from championship to league 1.

Have I got that right Shabster?

[den]

I didn't listen to it - but did SS really say the transition was almost done?

[philipl]

There is no denying we finished top half four seasons out of five immediately prior to the Loons.

[LeChuck]

  On 25/03/2013 at 20:59, Amarillo said:

We weren't a mid-table side "AT BEST" if we enjoyed top six finishes after the 1995 title win, are we?

Motty was wrong. You're wrong. The whole system's wrong.

We were a mid-table team that, in a good season, could catch one of the European places and maybe get decent cup run.

Similar to clubs like Aston Villa, Fulham, Newcastle over that period. Never a genuine threat to the established top six at the time (i.e. ALL the top six, not just one of the stragglers) but capable of getting close on a good season, without ever being in danger of relegation.

It's still a horrendous fall, whatever way you look at it. What is the gap between us and those three clubs now?

[rovers11]

Five Live show was bog standard really. We've heard it all before about how Venkys are useless etc. We`ve known that for 2 years, I'm pretty sick of hearing about it tbh. I wanted the BBC to get someone from the FA on the line. Shouldn't they start really asking question and pressing the FA for answers and what they are going to do about this situation?!

Ian Battersby was good and is someone that I think could be our saviour.

[DE.]

  On 25/03/2013 at 21:06, den said:

I didn't listen to it - but did SS really say the transition was almost done?

Yeah, we can apparently get ready to enjoy our football again soon Den, so no worries.

[OJRovers]

Did he really talk about long term stability? Biggest joke in football that man.

[LDRover]

  On 25/03/2013 at 21:15, DE. said:

Yeah, we can apparently get ready to enjoy our football again soon Den, so no worries.

That's good to hear.

I'm a lot more relaxed about things now.

[Amo]

  On 25/03/2013 at 21:15, LeChuck said:

We were a mid-table team that, in a good season, could catch one of the European places and maybe get decent cup run.

So we were a mid-table side only when we weren't?

If you finish in the top six you're a top six side. It might be transient but at that time the league doesn't lie. Motty was rather dismissive of our post-title success to say we were a mid-table side at best. That's patently untrue no matter how you try to spin it. But that's the mainstream perception of Rovers, isn't it? Pretenders to the throne who only won it through their local sugar daddy... unlike the other big clubs who all won their titles on a pittance, I presume? They'll never forgive us for that. Still, it's only taken them two years to acknowledge the fowl stench that we've endured for the last two years. When we really needed media support last year, where were they? Too busy gushing over Kean, there's where, one of the main reasons we're in this mess! If it wasn't so sad, I'd be laughing my ass off.

[Rover_Shaun]

  On 25/03/2013 at 21:06, den said:

I didn't listen to it - but did SS really say the transition was almost done?

Yep. All he needs is the final op and he's Shebbina