[Archived] possible transfer targets summer 2013

[AJW]

Abdulrahman certainly has a whiff of shebby about him and not Bowyer

[T.J.Newton]

which i agree with completely but if he comes in on trial and is deemed good enough to do a job then he deserves a chance i'm not saying sign him or play him but surely there is no harm in giving the lad a chance? If he is good enough bring him in with someone like Spearing

I agree, its just that I see it as being a distraction from trying to sign players we really need, there's only 2 weeks to go until the start of the season and 3 of our senior midfielerds(dunn, Williamson and etuhu) are still it seems nowhere near ready and murphy, jones are no longer here so as things stand we are starting this season much weaker than we finished the last as far as the centre of midfielder goes.

[beanie]

I agree, its just that I see it as being a distraction from trying to sign players we really need, there's only 2 weeks to go until the start of the season and 3 of our senior midfielerds(dunn, Williamson and etuhu) are still it seems nowhere near ready and murphy, jones are no longer here so as things stand we are starting the season much weaker than we finished it as far as the centre of midfield goes.

True but it would seem we are looking to bring some cm's so my hope is we have one if not two by the start of the season weather this lad is one or not remains to be seen but having a look in pre season cannot be a bad thing.

[Makey11]

looks like he not coming to Rovers.

what about a loan bid for Villa midfielder Barry Bannan? He is very good player and would defo add quality to our Midfielder. Would fans been happy if we can get him. he is available for transfer/loan from Villa

Nearly signed him couple of weeks ago but found out hes a bit of a live wire n likes the old booze so they pulled plug as its not type of player they want.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

Let us all get things into perspective .

I have watched BRFC since 1969 , 2 promotions to the big league ..

Forget the boasts of Johnny Carey ' 1st Division before man goes to the moon', it took us til 1992 ..

The managers were Kenny Dalglish and Graeme Souness ..

There is not a hope in hell , that the present players and management will be any where near the play offs let alone promotion .

Simon Garner was better than Rhodes and we have nobody (besides Dunn) who is anywhere near Sellars....This club is going to hell in a handcart and the blame in my opinion lies at the owners ..

They do not give a crap !

We now have 3rd rate players and management structure and that spells relegation ...

I would be amazed if we finish higher than we did last season ...

I have said this before , i will take conference football tomorrow if venkys do one ...Until they leave us forever Blackburn Rovers will carry on their nosedive to obilivion ...

Garner better than Rhodes - a very interesting debate. Personally I would say Rhodes is better than Garner - mainly as I think he is possibly the most natural finisher Rovers have possibly ever had. Before anyone says it - he is a long way from being our best striker.

As for how the season goes - take little interest in pre-season - other than the formation that GB is obviously intent on deploying (with two defensive midfield players).

Personally don't remember too much startling midfield wizardry from any player in the Championship last season - and I would wonder whether a player like Sellars would be crowded out by the athleticism of modern players - and we would end up with loads on this forum complaining he was too slow.

[blueboy3333]

Nearly signed him couple of weeks ago but found out hes a bit of a live wire n likes the old booze so they pulled plug as its not type of player they want.

Interesting. Good little player but if he's a p*sshead then it's good that we're avoiding him. Kean would have signed him in a heartbeat. Glad Bowyer hasn't.

[West Yorks Rover]

Garner better than Rhodes - a very interesting debate. Personally I would say Rhodes is better than Garner - mainly as I think he is possibly the most natural finisher Rovers have possibly ever had. Before anyone says it - he is a long way from being our best striker.

As for how the season goes - take little interest in pre-season - other than the formation that GB is obviously intent on deploying (with two defensive midfield players).

Personally don't remember too much startling midfield wizardry from any player in the Championship last season - and I would wonder whether a player like Sellars would be crowded out by the athleticism of modern players - and we would end up with loads on this forum complaining he was too slow.

You may be right about Rhodes being a better finisher, but this team with a 23 year old Simon Garner in it,

instead of Rhodes, would be far better all round IMO.

Legend !

[Reedy You're A Star]

Garner better than Rhodes - a very interesting debate. Personally I would say Rhodes is better than Garner - mainly as I think he is possibly the most natural finisher Rovers have possibly ever had. Before anyone says it - he is a long way from being our best striker..

That's a bold statement considering we have had Shearer, Sutton, Garner, Jansen, McCarthey and dare I say it Yakubu, on our books over the years. ( not that I'm saying Rhodes isn't up there with them though, except maybe Shearer). Up front is the one area we have been obsceneley blessed over the years.

[bluebruce]

Jansen scored some spectacular goals, but was not really a natural finisher. Don't forget, his scoring record was not all that impressive. On evidence so far, Rhodes has a better goals per game ratio at this level than Garner, who I sadly never saw play so that's all I can go off. I do think Rhodes was a better finisher (but not player) than Sutton, too. However, Shearer, McCarthy, and Yakubu in his brief spell with us...well, I can't call that so easily, all exceptional at putting the ball away when given the chance. Would probably say Shearer best of the lot though, for finishing. And streets ahead as an overall striker obviously.

[chaddyrovers]

According to this morning Sunday People that Rovers are chasing Boro midfielder Grant Leadbitter for 1.5 mil. He's 27 years old.

Jay Spearing move to Rovers is faltering. also.in the same people.

do people think Leadbitter would be good signing if we can get?

[Stuart]

losing tenners and finding fivers for quite a while now.....

You've just described our transfer policy.

[Makey11]

According to this morning Sunday People that Rovers are chasing Boro midfielder Grant Leadbitter for 1.5 mil. He's 27 years old.

Jay Spearing move to Rovers is faltering. also.in the same people.

do people think Leadbitter would be good signing if we can get?

Truth in that. I think he would be a good signing.

[chaddyrovers]

Nearly signed him couple of weeks ago but found out hes a bit of a live wire n likes the old booze so they pulled plug as its not type of player they want.

oh right. Well if that's the case then we defo don't want him. Bowyer is right for decide against signing him

Truth in that. I think he would be a good signing.

I agree with that Leadbitter would be very good signing. He always impress me when he played for Sunderland aswell.

Makey11, do you have good contacts at Rovers? any news on a scouting department yet? we need a Chief Scout quickly?

[dingles staying down 4ever]

You may be right about Rhodes being a better finisher, but this team with a 23 year old Simon Garner in it,

instead of Rhodes, would be far better all round IMO.

Legend !

Garner had the benefit of having another striker alongside him most games where as Rhodes has had to play a lone striker's role in a lot of his games. Garner had a decent supply of service with Miller and Sellars where Rhodes has had to feed of scraps. IMO I think Garner would have struggled to score the number of goals that Rhodes got last season.

[JAL]

According to this morning Sunday People that Rovers are chasing Boro midfielder Grant Leadbitter for 1.5 mil. He's 27 years old.

Jay Spearing move to Rovers is faltering. also.in the same people.

do people think Leadbitter would be good signing if we can get?

Getting tired of seeing a new name being thrown out every week when the season is only two weeks away.

Do they know what they are doing ?

[Ricky]

JAL does it again. If he's good enough he doesn't need a trial!!

Samba and Nelsen came on trial so are you saying that they weren't good enough for rovers?

Hughes used the trial system very well. Don't see it being a problem that GB is doing the same.

[Veevs]

Getting tired of seeing a new name being thrown out every week when the season is only two weeks away.

Do they know what they are doing ?

Not sure if we can blame them on that front, seems pretty clear cut to me that Murphy then Spearing both dragged their heals.. .saying that given its pretty clear Spearing does not want to come then we really should of moved on quicker.

Surprised to see Leadbitter go for 1.5m, he was their player of the season last season (then again so where Spearing and Murphy for their respective clubs).

[blueboy3333]

Getting tired of seeing a new name being thrown out every week when the season is only two weeks away.

Do they know what they are doing ?

It's ridiculous isn't it? A football club being linked with football players...and not always the same ones either. When will the madness end?

[Majiball]

You've just described our transfer policy.

It's more like club policy, lose a fifty, find a fifty, pence that is.

JAL does it again. If he's good enough he doesn't need a trial!!

Samba and Nelsen came on trial so are you saying that they weren't good enough for rovers?

Hughes used the trial system very well. Don't see it being a problem that GB is doing the same.

100's of players trial every summer, how many get contracts? careers? very few. Most on here agree we need 1st team players and our chances of finding one ready for this season on trial are slim.

Yes Samba and Nelsen came here on trial, so did podolski and others, some you win, some you lose, even when you get them here. We cannot assume that GB's chances of finding a gem are the same as Hughes given Hughes staff and contacts in the game. GB has never done this before and whilst I don't doubt his endeavor, he hasn't done this before, he's learning as he goes. Our scouting hasn't been great for years and will never be repaired in one summer, it's not in the same ball park as with Hughes. GB isn't in the same boat as Hughes was at Rovers, same race but the current boat needs repairs. For me it's a bit like saying if one person has done X Y & Z, then so can everyone and we all know this isn't true. I hope we do find a gem, but the chances of finding what we need are greater in buying tried, trusted and proven quality.

We're very unlikely to find a 1st 11 player ready to go in 2 weeks through trials. We may find someone who could be coached along over months or so, but we need players now, not in months. We have enough players of this ilk at the club already IE hopefuls, we require quality.

[beanie]

It's more like club policy, lose a fifty, find a fifty, pence that is.

100's of players trial every summer, how many get contracts? careers? very few. Most on here agree we need 1st team players and our chances of finding one ready for this season on trial are slim.

Yes Samba and Nelsen came here on trial, so did podolski and others, some you win, some you lose, even when you get them here. We cannot assume that GB's chances of finding a gem are the same as Hughes given Hughes staff and contacts in the game. GB has never done this before and whilst I don't doubt his endeavor, he hasn't done this before, he's learning as he goes. Our scouting hasn't been great for years and will never be repaired in one summer, it's not in the same ball park as with Hughes. GB isn't in the same boat as Hughes was at Rovers, same race but the current boat needs repairs. For me it's a bit like saying if one person has done X Y & Z, then so can everyone and we all know this isn't true. I hope we do find a gem, but the chances of finding what we need are greater in buying tried, trusted and proven quality.

True i'm sure thats why he's looking at spearing/Leadbitter while giving this lad a trial with a view to a season long loan if he impresses don't understand why this has people in the depths of dispair. Well i can with JAL as it seems everything is miserable in JAL world.

[Lie_still_Rover]

How we can compare Rhodes to: Shearer, Sutton, McCarthy, Bellamy, Roque, Jansen, Yak is beyond me.

Shearer England's last prolific number 9 premier league all time leading goal scorer. Goal machine. Had everything! 559 games 283 goals, 30 goals in 63 appearances for England

Sutton: Class, played at the top his entire career. For a big man he had. Great touch and was so creative. Always amongst the goals. Won the uefa cup with Celtic and should've been capped for england ...411 games 151 goals

McCarthy: Champions league winner, played right across Europe at the highest level. Clinical finisher, blessed with bags of flair. Real crowd pleaser. 161 goals in 387 games, 31 in 79 for SA

Bellamy: goals always follow Bellamy along with a cult status.

Roque: champions league winner, played at Bayern for years, really calibre. Recently seen at Malaga banging them in..87 career goals, 26 in 92 caps for Paraguay

Jansen: Quality. Oozed class. Should've been at utd

Yak: goal machine 156 goals in in 375 games

Rhodes: 110 goals in 200 appearances... Before you get carried away73 goals were in league one. I'd love to see Any f the names above at 20/21 at that standard.. They'd be banging them in. Every player above in my opinion was better than Jordan. He's a good a good finisher but he isn't world class... People need to get a grip... Comparing Rhodes to Garner is proper fickle!!! You'll hate him when he leaves. Lets be objective eh?

[Majiball]

True i'm sure thats why he's looking at spearing/Leadbitter while giving this lad a trial with a view to a season long loan if he impresses don't understand why this has people in the depths of dispair. Well i can with JAL as it seems everything is miserable in JAL world.

We have lots of hopefuls already and are losing serious cash each week. Any loan will cost us money in wages, housing, expenses etc etc, so for me when the requirement is better starters IE 1st 11 players and money is tight, you don't waste it. Yes he could be a gem, but we already have 45 pro's which is a big big group of players to concentrate on. I like Jal would rather we put all our energies into signing and spending money on a quality 1st teamer, every penny counts at Rovers by all accounts. Look after the pennies and the pounds take care of themselves, is a saying more should follow. Everything may well be miserable in a JAL world as you put it, but he has every right to post what he thinks as do you.

[Reedy You're A Star]

How we can compare Rhodes to: Shearer, Sutton, McCarthy, Bellamy, Roque, Jansen, Yak is beyond me.....

I agree, they are all better all round players than Rhodes at the moment, but my point was just comparing their ability to finish. It can't be denied that JR can find the net. Can he do it at a higher level, like the players above? I'm sure we'll soon see (although probably not with us, unfortunately).

[beanie]

How we can compare Rhodes to: Shearer, Sutton, McCarthy, Bellamy, Roque, Jansen, Yak is beyond me.

Shearer England's last prolific number 9 premier league all time leading goal scorer. Goal machine. Had everything! 559 games 283 goals, 30 goals in 63 appearances for England

Sutton: Class, played at the top his entire career. For a big man he had. Great touch and was so creative. Always amongst the goals. Won the uefa cup with Celtic and should've been capped for england ...411 games 151 goals

McCarthy: Champions league winner, played right across Europe at the highest level. Clinical finisher, blessed with bags of flair. Real crowd pleaser. 161 goals in 387 games, 31 in 79 for SA

Bellamy: goals always follow Bellamy along with a cult status.

Roque: champions league winner, played at Bayern for years, really calibre. Recently seen at Malaga banging them in..87 career goals, 26 in 92 caps for Paraguay

Jansen: Quality. Oozed class. Should've been at utd

Yak: goal machine 156 goals in in 375 games

Rhodes: 110 goals in 200 appearances... Before you get carried away73 goals were in league one. I'd love to see Any f the names above at 20/21 at that standard.. They'd be banging them in. Every player above in my opinion was better than Jordan. He's a good a good finisher but he isn't world class... People need to get a grip... Comparing Rhodes to Garner is proper fickle!!! You'll hate him when he leaves. Lets be objective eh?

Eh Sutton did a 6 year stint playing in scotland not really playing at the top. And Benni Mac was a real crowd pleaser where ever he went for a round a year then went of the boil. not saying Rhodes is better than them tho.Oh i agree to some extent about cult status with Bellers but for a striker he has never been prolific.

[folkdevil]

Can't see why Leadbitter would want to come.First choice at 'Boro last season and also Mowbray on him here.

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http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11680/8827283/Transfer-news-Middlesbrough-expect-Grant-Leadbitter-to-stay