[Archived] possible transfer targets summer 2013

[Majiball]

So does FFP prevent owners giving the club money and asking for it back?

As if it does I find it all rather coincidental, happy to put money in last season when they could do it as loans and not now as they can't have it back?

Or have I read the thread wrong.

[rhodie]

I know this is off topic but it seems we may see another land mark case similar to the Bosman ruling happening before too long, with regards to FFP. I am pasting an extract from an article on FFP.

Striani opens second front on legal challenge to UEFA’s break-even rule

20 June 2013 - Belgian player agent Daniel Striani is continuing his challenge of UEFA’s Financial Fair Play rule today by launching a legal action in the Court of First Instance in Brussels. The process will ask the Court to judge on alleged infringements of both EU competition law and the right to free movement (of workers, services and capital).

This latest legal challenge follows a complaint Striani lodged with the European Commission in May against UEFA’s Financial Fair Play which argued that the "Break-even rule" (the obligation for financial equilibrium) was in contravention to fundamental principles of EU competition law. That process is ongoing and the Commission is expected to rule in 2014.

Striani’s legal team is led by Jean-Louis Dupont, the Belgian sports competition lawyer, who was part of the legal team that secured the Bosman ruling on player contracts in 1995. He also led the Meca-Medina case and, for G-14, the Charleroi case.

Since UEFA’s rule affects all football clubs, players and staff within the European Union, Striani is arguing that the Court of First Instance of Brussels seeks from the European Union Court of Justice a preliminary ruling on its compatibility with EU law (specifically free movement of workers, services, capital, and free competition).

Striani’s case argues that the UEFA rule is illegal under EU law because it is a disproportionate response and that there are more effective alternatives such as allowing over-spending if fully guaranteed; establish a "luxury tax"; or change the model of revenue sharing with regards to the UEFA club competitions.

This latest legal process is supported by a growing body of economic and legal opinion which argues that the UEFA rule is ineffective, illegal and disproportionate given alternative measures available.

[rhodie]

The full article on fair play is here.

http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/

[unleaded]

Why, do you think it'll fall through because the player doesn't want to come?

Hope Not ... No I am just saying that it could be...,

Feel there's 3 hurdles at the moment that we have to overcome for a transfer to go through

**Agree a Price with Selling Club

**Personal Terms with player/Agent

**Manager talks about his Vision to Player

All 3 are beginning to struggle .. Usually in the past 2 out 3 usually clinched a deal but feel its a struggle with the inexperienced GB added to the other 2 points

He omes accross as very quiet and shy......

I always have to put the volume up when his interview comes on ...

[RoverScot]

The full article on fair play is here.

http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/

The European Community challenge may only affect the FFP across European competitions rather than internal individual country FFP as the market rules are usually enforced for cross-border competition. The EU can rule inside a member state but it's a different process if I have remembered correctly.

[Blue n White Rover]

Hope Not ... No I am just saying that it could be...,

Feel there's 3 hurdles at the moment that we have to overcome for a transfer to go through

**Agree a Price with Selling Club

**Personal Terms with player/Agent

**Manager talks about his Vision to Player

All 3 are beginning to struggle .. Usually in the past 2 out 3 usually clinched a deal but feel its a struggle with the inexperienced GB added to the other 2 points

He omes accross as very quiet and shy......

I always have to put the volume up when his interview comes on ...

Add to the first point, a sufficient payment plan with the selling team.

[Makey11]

The stumbling block is more to do with greedy frigging agents as usual. Hate them!

[davulsukur]

The stumbling block is more to do with greedy frigging agents as usual. Hate them!

I bet agents just rub their hands together with a huge smile on their face when Rovers come in for one of their players these days.

[Rover_Shaun]

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/blackburn_rovers/news/10577250.Rovers_plan_to_add_to_squad/

Surely some have to leave before FOUR more come in, in order to get nearer to FFP compliance that GB said was hindering his transfer policy?

Rovers could also look to strengthen at left back and up front, while they are likely to bring in at least one centre back

Surely midfield comes before all of them?

[roversfan99]

Yeah but it does mention that Bannan is in talks and we have alternatives if that falls through.

I think we need a left back certainly, I would only sign Songo'o after Givet/Dann moves on and I think up front, a 3 month loan would suffice to cover DJ.

[blueboy3333]

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/blackburn_rovers/news/10577250.Rovers_plan_to_add_to_squad/

Surely some have to leave before FOUR more come in, in order to get nearer to FFP compliance that GB said was hindering his transfer policy?

Surely midfield comes before all of them?

that's why Bannan is mentioned before 'all of them'.

[roverslee]

http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/29/aston-villa-midfielder-barry-bannan-is-bound-for-blackburn-3902248/

would any of you take Stephen Ireland as well ??

[Rover_Shaun]

that's why Bannan is mentioned before 'all of them'.

BUT we need more than one.....before the other three positions.

If four in is the target the rest of this summer should be all about

midfielder

midfielder

leftback

rightback

[Butty]

http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/29/aston-villa-midfielder-barry-bannan-is-bound-for-blackburn-3902248/

would any of you take Stephen Ireland as well ??

If I had to have one or the other it would be Ireland! Couldn't see him coming here though, imagine his wage demands would be pretty high.

[roversfan99]

BUT we need more than one.....before the other three positions.

If four in is the target the rest of this summer should be all about

midfielder

midfielder

leftback

rightback

Why right back? We have Kane and Henley.

[blueboy3333]

BUT we need more than one.....before the other three positions.

If four in is the target the rest of this summer should be all about

midfielder

midfielder

leftback

rightback

Maybe Bowyer just thinks we need one CM. Dunn and Etuhu to come back yet.

Agree we need a left back, which i'm sure Bowyer has already thought of! Not sure why you think we need a right back?

A quality winger is vital.

[RevidgeBlue]

BUT we need more than one.....before the other three positions.

If four in is the target the rest of this summer should be all about

midfielder

midfielder

leftback

rightback

Why do we need a right back with Kane and Adam Henley in the squad?

[rovers11]

Maybe Bowyer just thinks we need one CM. Dunn and Etuhu to come back yet.

Agree we need a left back, which i'm sure Bowyer has already thought of! Not sure why you think we need a right back?

A quality winger is vital.

A quality winger and CM and then we'll be top 6.

Bannan and Albrighton would be nice.

Failure to get a quality cm or winger in would mean mid table. Simple as that.

LB is also an area that needs improving but we have decent cover in Kilgallon and Morris.

[Rover_Shaun]

Kane isn't our player and never will be. I despise the loan system and would rather have our own players than train up other clubs to the detriment of our own squad..........just an opinion

Plus it would shorten the odds on the teachers pet ever being shoved in there in an injury crisis. There is no place for that lad in my teams

[RevidgeBlue]

Maybe Bowyer just thinks we need one CM. Dunn and Etuhu to come back yet.

Agree we need a left back, which i'm sure Bowyer has already thought of! Not sure why you think we need a right back?

A quality winger is vital.

And Williamson in midfield. I think one quality addition is sufficient if the injuries clear up.

Arguably we already have a quality winger on the books in Nunes and don't use him as it is. No point padding the squad out even further.

[Rover_Shaun]

Willaimson is made of glass. He cannot be relied on for a season

[blueboy3333]

Kane isn't our player and never will be. I despise the loan system and would rather have our own players than train up other clubs to the detriment of our own squad..........just an opinion

Plus it would shorten the odds on the teachers pet ever being shoved in there in an injury crisis. There is no place for that lad in my teams

Teachers pet? Do you mean Orr? How dare you, Dunny will be cross!

[Amo]

We require a left-back and a central midfielder. Anything else would be a bonus.

Some people go way overboard on the amount of players we "need". I believe a previous poster made the same point. Fans come out with a long list of positions that need covering, but for the most part we manage to do alright without the complete squad everyone's clamouring for.

[rovers11]

We require a left-back and a central midfielder. Anything else would be a bonus.

Some people go way overboard on the amount of players we "need". I believe a previous poster made the same point. Fans come out with a long list of positions that need covering, but for the most part we manage to do alright without the complete squad everyone's clamouring for.

We don't "need" new players in terms of numbers, we "need" new players in terms of quality.

The current playing staff is not good enough to go up which is why we do need new players.

[Stuart]

Whilst our current predicament is largely down to the current owners Stuart, you make it sound like they're not putting anything in at all Stuart.

It was widely reported last season we were losing in excess of 2m per month. I assume we'll still be making very heavy losses again this season albeit the wage bill will have been reduced slightly.

We haven't folded over the summer so I presume the owners have been covering those losses. Perhaps it's not that surprising we haven't seen a spending splurge to match the one last summer?

Woah woah woah. I've been responding to comments about the effect of FFP stopping Venkys from fixing their mistakes, and I think I've covered the poin about our lossest.

The question is why are they covering the losses to keep a mid to bottom Championship team in business?

I've not had a satisfactory answer yet.

And the fact they could realise this at any point scares the heck out of me.