[Archived] possible transfer targets summer 2013

[Blue blood]

Is there any source for this £2 million figure? Don't forget we let a lot of expensive loan players go in the summer, our wage bill won't be as high as it was.

Next summer we can get rid of Pedersen, Murphy, Givet, Robinson, Dunn and Orr. That will be a MASSIVE amount off the wage bill - more than most Championship clubs pay for their entire squad. It wouldn't really weaken the team either given that all are substitutes at best.

If the chance is there to sign Luke Murphy then we have to take it. He'll only grow in value and the wages will be under control in 12 months.

Le Chuck I like a lot of what you post but massively disagree with this last point.

Granted the wages will go down the year after but my first reservation is by then it will still be too late. Another year of these guys leeching money out of us could ruin us forever.

Secondly the wage bill will still be horrific. We've apparently got 52 players on the books. Now granted a number of these contracts won't be that much but it still all adds up - in fact I'm pretty sure we;d still be horrified if the figure was 46! Added to which there would still be some big contracts in the squad - Olsson, Rhodes, Etuhu, Dann (also doesn't Robbo have another year after this?) not to mention the Portuguese no marks who are literally getting money for nothing. The idea that wages will magically be sorted in a years time without massive effort going into shipping players out is wrong.

Even with the fans on board and decent attendances without premiership sky money we're never going to balance the books. A much smaller disenfranchised fan base with championship revenues isn't going to help finances one bit. Granted there's a bit of good will generated with Bowyer around but am pretty sure most fans are still very wary. Another bad/stupid move from Venkeys could be the final straw for many fans, making the financial situation even worse.

I honestly wonder how we're going to meet the fair play rules - even in a year's time.

[tomphil]

if only we had done this last season, and taken Etuhu and Murphy's salary to bring in more of these type of players.

Not enough commission in small deals for wee Stevie and Co.

[Muddboy]

So, can anyone tell me whether we have to meet any financial fair play rules for the coming season?

Reading previous posts, it looks like we can spend as much as we like until next season. Is that correct?

[CapeTownRover]

Not enough commission in small deals for wee Stevie and Co.

and that too. Its such a shame, because getting relegated was hard to take, but what followed was even worse. If our strategy was just to buy the best of the rest in the championship, instead of going for Murphy and Etuhu, then we would have been in such a good position(obviously with Kean gone as well, and a competent manager in charge) right now. However, i think Bowyer has recognised that to get out of this division, or at least into the play offs, will require players who will have the desire to get into the premier league. I think its a good start so far, no matter how many are comaplaining about us signing league 1 etc players.

[Blandy]

BBC Lancashire ‏@BBCLancashire3m

Blackburn #Rovers have a bid accepted for Crewe Alexandra captain Luke Murphy and could beat Wolves to sign him #brfc #CreweAlex

[CapeTownRover]

thats awesome news re Luke Murphy... now to get rid of the other Murphy, and we will be getting somewhere

[T.J.Newton]

Someone has asked Alan Nixon if it's Burnley with the bid, He replied "No, but it's a club very close"

It will be Bolton then, the snidey fat scotsman.

[davulsukur]

Awesome if we can land him.

[roversR4ever]

There is still plenty of time this summer to get rid of quite a few players who Bowyer doesn't want. Some may want to stay because of the high wages but some may go because they will want to play. Bowyer was going to talk to the players when they got back for pre season training. So it isn't really that surprising none have been taken off the books yet.

It could also be that Bowyer wants to see the attitude of certain returning players before making his final decision as well. There is no doubt that some players massively under performed compared to previous years. It could be that certain players had enough of the different managers, poor pre season etc etc Under Bowyer they could quite easily perform, it could be he wants to see how hard they want to train, how willing they are to put in the hard graft to turn it around. Or whether during the training that however willing or unwilling they are that their legs have gone.

Lets be blunt players like Murphy, Etuhu Best contributed far less to Rovers last year than they did at previous clubs. But why? Their ability will still be there. With Best he had a bad injury, with a good preseason can he get back to the higher standard we would have expected. Only preseason training will give the information Bowyer needs. WIth Murphy did the lack of a good pre season mean that he didn't perform, have his legs gone. Did he simply have enough of all the turmoil. Was the team not set up correctly for him to perform, have his legs gone and no matter what pre season training he does he wont cope with the Championship. Does he need a better or higher standard of player around him to perform.

I was incredibly fed up and frustrated with Murphy last year but if Bowyer was to get him back to playing the standard he produced for many years prior then he becomes a real asset for the club and we suddenly would be promotion candidates. I must admit I cant see it happening but Bowyer may see an improvement in preseason. I have to say prior to Rovers I never had Murphy down as the type of player to give up quite the opposite

So simply I am glad at this moment we have not got rid of players until at least they are back for pre season. Then Bowyer can make his mind up. There is no doubt we have far to many players in the squad.

[LeChuck]

Le Chuck I like a lot of what you post but massively disagree with this last point.

Granted the wages will go down the year after but my first reservation is by then it will still be too late. Another year of these guys leeching money out of us could ruin us forever.

Secondly the wage bill will still be horrific. We've apparently got 52 players on the books. Now granted a number of these contracts won't be that much but it still all adds up - in fact I'm pretty sure we;d still be horrified if the figure was 46! Added to which there would still be some big contracts in the squad - Olsson, Rhodes, Etuhu, Dann (also doesn't Robbo have another year after this?) not to mention the Portuguese no marks who are literally getting money for nothing. The idea that wages will magically be sorted in a years time without massive effort going into shipping players out is wrong.

Even with the fans on board and decent attendances without premiership sky money we're never going to balance the books. A much smaller disenfranchised fan base with championship revenues isn't going to help finances one bit. Granted there's a bit of good will generated with Bowyer around but am pretty sure most fans are still very wary. Another bad/stupid move from Venkeys could be the final straw for many fans, making the financial situation even worse.

I honestly wonder how we're going to meet the fair play rules - even in a year's time.

Perhaps I underplayed it a bit, but we have to sign someone like Luke Murphy if we can. If we just stop signing players it will be more damaging in the long run. That number of 52 must include a lot of youth players. Obviously we have far too many on the books but surely not that many.

I think you're right about Robinson, but I still think in 12 months things we look a lot rosier. I did forget a few more fringe players from that list (Ribeiro, Henrique, Markus etc), so if we look at players who have played for the first team or are likely to soon and remove those out of contract, we'll possibly have a squad of...

Robinson, Kean, Eastwood

Henley, Hanley, O'Connell, Dann, Olsson, Morris

King, Judge, Williamson, Lowe, Etuhu, L Murphy, Formica, Rochina, Taylor, Rosado

Best, Rhodes, Forrester, Edinho, Slew, Goodwillie

So that's 25 by my count. The rest are youth players that haven't been near the first team and will be on short contracts that are easy to cancel.

Obviously we're likely to have a few more bodies come in (certainly in defence) and a few more leave, but numbers wise that's manageable. The troublesome ones there are Robinson, Etuhu and Best, because at the moment we probably are unable to move them on because of wages. The rest are on a reasonable wage or would find a new home relatively easily if we needed to trim further.

[RockinRover]

Pretty excited by the side we could have next season if we manage to land our targets and keep hold of some of our wanted players.

Kean
Henley, Dann, Hanley, Olsson
Judge, L.Murphy, Williamson, Taylor

Rochina
Rhodes

Subs: Eastwood, Kane, Givet, Lowe, Jones, Dunn, King, Best

I think that side would be more than good enough to challenge for promotion.

(Didn't see the above post until after I posted this)

[G Somerset Rover]

Delighted if we can pull off the Luke Murphy signing. Exactly what we need in the middle of the park from the little I've seen of him. Signing the best talent from League 1 is not a bad ploy - they're hungry, determined, and not afraid to get stuck in.

[sparky12]

Delighted if we can pull off the Luke Murphy signing. Exactly what we need in the middle of the park from the little I've seen of him. Signing the best talent from League 1 is not a bad ploy - they're hungry, determined, and not afraid to get stuck in.

Poor Keef

[G Somerset Rover]

Poor Keef

He jumped to the Prem. And was always a very limited footballer!

[roversR4ever]

In certain games you could even do this. I cant help think the movement in midfield would be that much better and finally could see Murphy able to pass in the manner he did for many years. It could actually be a midfield to control games, L Murphy is a very dynamic type of player capable of getting up to support Rhodes and contributing with some goals. Judge and Taylor may well contribute and I would have confidence in the final ball being better. Then if its not working you have much better options to change it, remove murphy introduce rochina or dunn etc. Put in hopefully a fit Best up along Rhodes etc

Kean
Henley, Dann, Hanley, Olsson

Murphy
Judge, L.Murphy, Williamson, Taylor

Rhodes

Get rid of the Portuguese (could keep the winger), formica, ethuhu, robbo, orr, etc.

[LeChuck]

Poor Keef

Andrews was a League Two midfielder when we signed him, not League One. And we were in the Premier League. So he jumped three levels, not one!

[roversR4ever]

Andrews was a League Two midfielder when we signed him, not League One. And we were in the Premier League. So he jumped three levels, not one!

And I suspect a number of championship teams would have had him in there teams. Just too limited for Premier league.

[Gally]

In certain games you could even do this. I cant help think the movement in midfield would be that much better and finally could see Murphy able to pass in the manner he did for many years. It could actually be a midfield to control games, L Murphy is a very dynamic type of player capable of getting up to support Rhodes and contributing with some goals. Judge and Taylor may well contribute and I would have confidence in the final ball being better. Then if its not working you have much better options to change it, remove murphy introduce rochina or dunn etc. Put in hopefully a fit Best up along Rhodes etc

Kean

Henley, Dann, Hanley, Olsson

Murphy

Judge, L.Murphy, Williamson, Taylor

Rhodes

Get rid of the Portuguese (could keep the winger), formica, ethuhu, robbo, orr, etc.

Not making excuses for D. Murphy's performances, but I agree that he suffered from having one of the most lethargic midfields I've ever seen.

If nobody's willing to take him off our hands, at least he might benefit from having more options to pass to.

[tomphil]

In certain games you could even do this. I cant help think the movement in midfield would be that much better and finally could see Murphy able to pass in the manner he did for many years. It could actually be a midfield to control games, L Murphy is a very dynamic type of player capable of getting up to support Rhodes and contributing with some goals. Judge and Taylor may well contribute and I would have confidence in the final ball being better. Then if its not working you have much better options to change it, remove murphy introduce rochina or dunn etc. Put in hopefully a fit Best up along Rhodes etc

Kean

Henley, Dann, Hanley, Olsson

Murphy

Judge, L.Murphy, Williamson, Taylor

Rhodes

Get rid of the Portuguese (could keep the winger), formica, ethuhu, robbo, orr, etc.

There is NO point trying to find a system to accomodate Danny Murphy, he's shot it's time to move on with all the players we may have at our disposal next season not go backwards. Kean tried it at the start of last season and various others afterwards. His brain is there but his feet too slow and his legs gone so why tie players up trying to protect him just so he can knock the odd short pass if the oppo don't dispossess him as usual. Tugay he aint and never has been !

[OJRovers]

In certain games you could even do this. I cant help think the movement in midfield would be that much better and finally could see Murphy able to pass in the manner he did for many years. It could actually be a midfield to control games, L Murphy is a very dynamic type of player capable of getting up to support Rhodes and contributing with some goals. Judge and Taylor may well contribute and I would have confidence in the final ball being better. Then if its not working you have much better options to change it, remove murphy introduce rochina or dunn etc. Put in hopefully a fit Best up along Rhodes etc

Kean

Henley, Dann, Hanley, Olsson

Murphy

Judge, L.Murphy, Williamson, Taylor

Rhodes

Get rid of the Portuguese (could keep the winger), formica, ethuhu, robbo, orr, etc.

Todd Kane in at right back and Henley to left back and that is a decent side. Big names on the bench too: Dunn, Gomes, Best, Etuhu, Jones, Givet?, Robinson, Rochina, Pedersen.

[rovers11]

Never seen murphy play but very highly rated and was being looked at by prem clubs. Maybe not quite ready for prem yet but should be ready for champonship.

[AJW]

i just fear a big offer at the end of the window for Rhodes will be accepted and the money used to pay up the contracts of the likes of Robbo Murphy and Etuhu

[Oklahoma]

In certain games you could even do this. I cant help think the movement in midfield would be that much better and finally could see Murphy able to pass in the manner he did for many years. It could actually be a midfield to control games, L Murphy is a very dynamic type of player capable of getting up to support Rhodes and contributing with some goals. Judge and Taylor may well contribute and I would have confidence in the final ball being better. Then if its not working you have much better options to change it, remove murphy introduce rochina or dunn etc. Put in hopefully a fit Best up along Rhodes etc

Kean

Henley, Dann, Hanley, Olsson

Murphy

Judge, L.Murphy, Williamson, Taylor

Rhodes

Get rid of the Portuguese (could keep the winger), formica, ethuhu, robbo, orr, etc.

You got part of your wish, Nuno Gomes has been released by Rovers

http://www.abola.pt/nnh/ver.aspx?id=411595

[EgyptianPete]

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i just fear a big offer at the end of the window for Rhodes will be accepted and the money used to pay up the contracts of the likes of Robbo Murphy and Etuhu

Always someone puts a dampener on something that is potentially good, have faith my friend, this could be a season to remember.

[Lathund]

Hopefully that's a "mutual termination" type of deal, where we don't pay anywhere near the full sum he's due. Outright paying off his contract makes no sense; if we're going to be paying him, surely we'd want him around in case he's needed.