beanie Posted July 5, 2013 Posted July 5, 2013 Maybe so, but then I'm probably one of the few people that think he's very over rated. Massive, amazing skill but only turns it on when he can be bothered to turn up to the party. Those players really annoy me. Apart from the one game against England, he's looked more lethargic and disinterested than if Berbatov was playing a charity game after 4 or 5 pints. I actually think he is one of those players who is class but has never really done it against English teams not that i'm questioning your knowledge of foreign football but i have always thought he suffered from that when being discussed in English football circles. His last performance vs England aside.
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chaddyrovers Posted July 5, 2013 Posted July 5, 2013 Chaddy any news on Jones? Not heard anything. Think Rovers looking to sign Luke Murphy who we miss out on and now chasing and bidding for Jay Spearing suggest we have move on from signing Jones and now targeting other Centre Midfielders. I think Bowyer is looking for maybe one more CM unless we can get rid of Etuhu and Peds. this is assuming we sign Alex Marrow aswell Does anybody know why we haven't announce the signings of Kilgallon and Marrow? most people who are 'ITK' say we have signed them Killgalon has come from a Prem club so he'll be on a decent wage as will DJ Campbell so despite the pay offs the wage bill still seems to be going up considering all the signings. I reckon Kilgallon will be on 12 to 15k a week and when we sell Dann and we will save on his wage which is suppose to be 30 k a week.
Guest Norbert Posted July 5, 2013 Posted July 5, 2013 I actually think he is one of those players who is class but has never really done it against English teams not that i'm questioning your knowledge of foreign football but i have always thought he suffered from that when being discussed in English football circles. His last performance vs England aside. I admit I'm no expert on every league in the world, but almost every time I've seen him he has been lazy, had a poor first touch, disinterested, and blinkered. The exception being that game against England when he really did show what the hype was about. Sort of like Anelka in between his Arsenal and Bolton spells. Mind you Totti was always the biggest charlatan forward. Great in Serie A, poo at every other level. There is a tendancy to believe in the hype of foreign players with puppy dog eyes normally reserved for US 'soccer' fans who support Real Madrid and Inter Milan. And I do hope we get Jones and/or Spearing before others start making a move.
The Rover of Finland Posted July 5, 2013 Posted July 5, 2013 Spearing sounds like empty talk. Has Jones been rumoured to anywhere else?
Majiball Posted July 5, 2013 Posted July 5, 2013 Perhaps Jones just isn't seen as the answer? Murphy was box to box but he can pass a ball and has decent vision. Jones seemed more of steady player decent but no guile, can't help but think bowyer wants someone who can play a bit more.
Guest Norbert Posted July 5, 2013 Posted July 5, 2013 That may be the case, Williamson, Etuhu, Lowe etc. can do the water carrying whilst A. N. Other may provide that spark when Dunn's contract is not up for renewel.
The Rover of Finland Posted July 5, 2013 Posted July 5, 2013 I agree we should go for better than Jones. Centre midfield has been the main problem since Tugay and Savage.
Commondore Posted July 5, 2013 Posted July 5, 2013 I admit I'm no expert on every league in the world, but almost every time I've seen him he has been lazy, had a poor first touch, disinterested, and blinkered. The exception being that game against England when he really did show what the hype was about. Sort of like Anelka in between his Arsenal and Bolton spells. Mind you Totti was always the biggest charlatan forward. Great in Serie A, poo at every other level. There is a tendancy to believe in the hype of foreign players with puppy dog eyes normally reserved for US 'soccer' fans who support Real Madrid and Inter Milan. And I do hope we get Jones and/or Spearing before others start making a move. Ibrahimovic has won 9 league titles (8 of which in a row) in 10 seasons with 5 different clubs. That's all you need to know, really. Anyway, Swedish media says we've now accepted bids for Martin Olsson from Norwich and Russian outfit Kuban Krasnodar.
somersetrover Posted July 5, 2013 Posted July 5, 2013 Ibrahimovic has won 9 league titles (8 of which in a row) in 10 seasons with 5 different clubs. That's all you need to know, really. Anyway, Swedish media says we've now accepted bids for Martin Olsson from Norwich and Russian outfit Kuban Krasnodar. That's wrong because two of those league titles of Ibrahimovic's that you include which he won at Juventus the club were stripped off due to their involvement in the Calciopoli Scandal. Back on to transfer matters I am getting a little concerned about the time it is taking to confirm the Kilgallon deal. IMO he would be a good signing if he stays fit as I always rated him at Leeds and Sheff Utd whenever I saw him play.
adz4d2 Posted July 5, 2013 Posted July 5, 2013 How a bout a 352 formation unorthodox but could utilise rochinas talents quite well Kean Givet Dann Hanley Kane Williamson judge Henley Rochina Rhodes best/dj Or a 433 Kean Kane damn Hanley Henley Williamson Judge. Dunn Rochina Rhodes Taylor
AggyBlue Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 How a bout a 352 formation unorthodox but could utilise rochinas talents quite well Kean Givet Dann Hanley Kane Williamson judge Henley Rochina Rhodes best/dj Or a 433 Kean Kane damn Hanley Henley Williamson Judge. Dunn Rochina Rhodes Taylor Is that a Freudian slip?
Mani Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 I agree we should go for better than Jones. Centre midfield has been the main problem since Tugay and Savage. Savage?? That guy was the epitome of a water carrier! And to use him in the same sentence as Tugay when talking about footballers is sacrilege!!
AJW Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Savage?? That guy was the epitome of a water carrier! And to use him in the same sentence as Tugay when talking about footballers is sacrilege!! C'mon Mani ... not having that Robbie Savage was the best midfielder in the world .................................................... when opposition had the ball then totally average when he had it lol He's non stop all action displays meant he was a perfect partner for Tugay and imo Tugay played the best football of his Rovers career when he played alongside Savage
gumboots Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 C'mon Mani ... not having that Robbie Savage was the best midfielder in the world .................................................... when opposition had the ball then totally average when he had it lol He's non stop all action displays meant he was a perfect partner for Tugay and imo Tugay played the best football of his Rovers career when he played alongside Savage that's the point Savage always makes. He was the workhorse, harrying the opposition, never letting them settle, scaring them into giving the ball away, then he'd pick it up and give it to tugay to do something with. Savage never thought he was a world beater either but he knew what to do and as part of a pair he was as important to us as Tugay.
beanie Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 I admit I'm no expert on every league in the world, but almost every time I've seen him he has been lazy, had a poor first touch, disinterested, and blinkered. The exception being that game against England when he really did show what the hype was about. Sort of like Anelka in between his Arsenal and Bolton spells. Mind you Totti was always the biggest charlatan forward. Great in Serie A, poo at every other level. There is a tendancy to believe in the hype of foreign players with puppy dog eyes normally reserved for US 'soccer' fans who support Real Madrid and Inter Milan. And I do hope we get Jones and/or Spearing before others start making a move. Look at his career stats and how many top sides have bought him it should tell you something. As for Totti I agree to a certain extent i know he is class but i've never been impressed by him when i've seen him play.
Majiball Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Any news in shelvey? Shelvey was at the match followed by some bloke in shades with a shaved bonce.
Mani Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Shelvey was at the match followed by some bloke in shades with a shaved bonce. Shelvey or Spearing??
Stuart Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Shelvey was at the match followed by some bloke in shades with a shaved bonce. I thought you didn't like the bloke, Maj.
Majiball Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Shelvey or Spearing?? Oh you mean Jonjo? I thought you meant Derek Shaw. I didn't see any players today and I watched the game!!! I thought you didn't like the bloke, Maj. Are we talking about Jonjo or Shaw?
patrickvalery Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Oh you mean Jonjo? I thought you meant Derek Shaw. : I didn't pick that up first time. But that was very very funny. Shelvey!!!! That is good Maji.
Stuart Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Are we talking about Jonjo or Shaw?Shelvey Shelverson.But I'm interested in your thoughts on JoJo - and Spearing for that matter.
Majiball Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Shelvey Shelverson. But I'm interested in your thoughts on JoJo - and Spearing for that matter. Never spoke to him, but the bloke with him was surely an agent, no idea who. Looked greasey. Have heard jonjo has a bad attitude but don't know for sure, he hasn't really shone at Pool, so maybe Swanseas will be good for him. Change of sence, dissappointment might be the kick up the arse he needs? Can play though. Spearing is a brute, better than what we have so I'd be for that move. But we need creativity and legs in their first, Judge, MGP nor Dunn can play in the two used today. Two are not mobile enough and the other for me suits a three man midfield but not a two in a 442 (MGP). Everyone keeps saying he was a league one player of the year, but the gap between the two leagues isn't as small as some would think. Have to be honest and say we need a few players and starters at that. I do wish we'd sign some quality as today for me was really poor, we just had no class and no better than Wrexham if honest. I know it's pre-season but one main complaint from last year was we looked unfit & lacked desire, I saw the same today, some couldn't even play 45min, that's dire even at this early stage of pre-season.
martonrover Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Hope no one tells GB Ormerod was our trainee or he's sure to sign him ;-)
Majiball Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Hope no one tells GB Ormerod was our trainee or he's sure to sign him ;-) I hope he extends that to trialists and bags Dzeko and Podolski.
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