ABBEY Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 proof! ha, (yes your honour) This is Blackburn, there's lots of small minded, ignorant, bigoted people in Blackburn(im sure we all no a few) so law of averages says that there's obviously going to be a good few amongst rovers fans(and those types are usually the loudest trouble makers/gobs##### on the terraces), but like I say only a tiny tiny minority. Give any reference of what your implying about gobshites on the terracing . .. I have not heard any , have you TJ ?
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Rover_Shaun Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 TJ making friends again I see I'm sure it can be seen as even worse when you consider Bowyer has been at the club for nine years and surely knows the score. He's either naive or a simpleton not to know about the contempt the board, owners and Kean are held in. Yet he praises two parties and mimics the other Time will tell and I hope he really is a very nice man who's very good at what he does.
Parsonblue Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 TJ making friends again I see I'm sure it can be seen as even worse when you consider Bowyer has been at the club for nine years and surely knows the score. He's either naive or a simpleton not to know about the contempt the board, owners and Kean are held in. Yet he praises two parties and mimics the other Time will tell and I hope he really is a very nice man who's very good at what he does. The fact that he's been at the club that long and the work he has done during that time is the reason I respect him as a person and if he wants to call the owner Madame that's fine by me. It's his coaching ability is all I'm interested in and the fact that he is happy to follow the company line in addressing the owner is totally irrelevant to me. Obviously, how he addresses the owner seems more important to others than what he does on the training ground.
EgyptianPete Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 TJ making friends again I see I'm sure it can be seen as even worse when you consider Bowyer has been at the club for nine years and surely knows the score. He's either naive or a simpleton not to know about the contempt the board, owners and Kean are held in. Yet he praises two parties and mimics the other Time will tell and I hope he really is a very nice man who's very good at what he does. Please dont insult GB with the simpleton jibe, Hes been in the job what two days or so officially, and already some are on his case, what he calls the owner is his choice, not for one minute do i think he has much time for Shagnew, he knows the score for sure, just playing his cards the right way, and yes time will tell which is why we need to give him said time. I am sure you will.
blueboy3333 Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 TJ making friends again I see I'm sure it can be seen as even worse when you consider Bowyer has been at the club for nine years and surely knows the score. He's either naive or a simpleton not to know about the contempt the board, owners and Kean are held in. Yet he praises two parties and mimics the other Time will tell and I hope he really is a very nice man who's very good at what he does. you really are a tedious ferker.
T.J.Newton Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 TJ making friends again I see I'm sure it can be seen as even worse when you consider Bowyer has been at the club for nine years and surely knows the score. He's either naive or a simpleton not to know about the contempt the board, owners and Kean are held in. Yet he praises two parties and mimics the other Time will tell and I hope he really is a very nice man who's very good at what he does. You hope he is..blahblahbah-bollards youd love him to be a failure you cant wait to say i told you so thats seemingly just your nature.(smiley face)
perthblue02 Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 Surely that Bowyer reports directly to Desai is a good thing? After all on paper she and her half wit and confused brothers own the club and it seems that recently they have a bit of control of the running of it so he wouldn't want to burn his bridges on that score, God knows what any messages would turn into if he had to report to snake and piggy who then passed stuff on to her, or via Venky's court jester. Hopefully Bowyer discussed this line of command when he went out there so he doesn't become a fall guy between Venky's man and the 'others' men
92er Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 Seeing the photo of GB in the LT today confirmed very little has changed since last season. The first thing that needed to change was the removal of Agnew and Shaw, with their replacement being someone capable of running a football club. All Rovers' fans must be pleased with the job JB did last season and for which we can give him a big vote of thanks. That, however, was not a reason to appoint him, especially as next season is the last realistic chance we have of returning to the Premiership in my lifetime. This is not meant as a criticism of the man. I just think it's too much of a gamble at a time when the whole future of the club is at stake.
T.J.Newton Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 No more of a gamble than ANY other manager would be under this lot surely. At least he knows and is liked by the players, the club, the staff and has a decent rapport with the fans which are the 1st hurdles most new managers usually have to overcome.
Rover_Shaun Posted May 30, 2013 Posted May 30, 2013 you really are a tedious ferker.Thanks for that. Any more words of wisdom to impart on the actual subject? Anyway typical BRFCS rounding on differing opinions aside we'll just have to see what transpires. Keep the blind faith
Rover_Shaun Posted May 30, 2013 Posted May 30, 2013 You hope he is..blahblahbah-bollards youd love him to be a failure you cant wait to say i told you so thats seemingly just your nature.(smiley face) If you want to believe that then go ahead. I'll look forward to your usual sanctimonious claptrap if Bowyer does well as in turn Rovers are doing well. However If you want to convey an actual opinion on Rovers, rather than continually trawling the board trolling me, Abbey and 47er and branding the entire Forum as latent racists, then you can do that too. I would appreciate it though if you don't mention any more Venky tubthumping and preposterous racial notions as to why Venkys are disliked. That way you can cling to what little credibility you have left. I am just thinking of you I'll pop you on ignore so I'll miss your inevitable and probably bile filled last word
chaddyrovers Posted May 30, 2013 Posted May 30, 2013 The fact that he's been at the club that long and the work he has done during that time is the reason I respect him as a person and if he wants to call the owner Madame that's fine by me. It's his coaching ability is all I'm interested in and the fact that he is happy to follow the company line in addressing the owner is totally irrelevant to me. Obviously, how he addresses the owner seems more important to others than what he does on the training ground. totally agree ParsonBlue. some fans are more interested in what he says than the job in does on pitch. TeamGB
T.J.Newton Posted May 30, 2013 Posted May 30, 2013 If you want to believe that then go ahead. I'll look forward to your usual sanctimonious claptrap if Bowyer does well as in turn Rovers are doing well. However If you want to convey an actual opinion on Rovers, rather than continually trawling the board trolling me, Abbey and 47er and branding the entire Forum as latent racists, then you can do that too. I would appreciate it though if you don't mention any more Venky tubthumping and preposterous racial notions as to why Venkys are disliked. That way you can cling to what little credibility you have left. I am just thinking of you But given expectations are low all round I await your inevitable and probably bile filled last word Cripes!So you just take everything your guilty of of on here and just flip it around onto everyone else, as a defense mechanism, clever(not really!!!) P.s. Boohoohoo P.p.s. Where exactly have i even infrared all posters on here are "latent racists", typical divisive, manipulative comment from you old cocker mi lad
blueboy3333 Posted May 30, 2013 Posted May 30, 2013 Thanks for that. Any more words of wisdom to impart on the actual subject? Anyway typical BRFCS rounding on differing opinions aside we'll just have to see what transpires. Keep the blind faith but thats the point, you don't have any views. It's just 'Bowyer simpleton blah blah', 'everythings rubbish blah blah' 'league 1 players smell blah blah'. Every single topic is just filled with you moaning relentlessly. Carry on though, it's fascinating stuff.
OJRovers Posted May 30, 2013 Posted May 30, 2013 Its clear to me that comments towards Bowyer are just frustration at there being no changes to the Board structure at the club. Under a capable Board, Bowyer would be backed 100% by the fans I think. Last season was a disaster and those that were responsible are still around the club.
T.J.Newton Posted May 30, 2013 Posted May 30, 2013 I think your right in general oj, bbut there are some that are just absurdly negative to every single aspect of rovers and have been since the day venkys took over(and they probably also found things to complain about on a daily basis prior to venkys as well)
dingles staying down 4ever Posted May 30, 2013 Posted May 30, 2013 After several days I'm still not sure which way I stand on this appointment. Caretaker managers rarely go on and become successful full time managers so I am wary of next season. I cannot remember any going on and become a success as a Full time manager at a club. On the other hand, after last season we need a bit of continuity and stability so I can see the logic in appointing Bowyer.
AggyBlue Posted May 30, 2013 Posted May 30, 2013 The fact she insists he should call her 'madame' tells us more about her than Bowyer
Leonard Venkhater Posted May 30, 2013 Posted May 30, 2013 After several days I'm still not sure which way I stand on this appointment. Caretaker managers rarely go on and become successful full time managers so I am wary of next season. I cannot remember any going on and become a success as a Full time manager at a club. On the other hand, after last season we need a bit of continuity and stability so I can see the logic in appointing Bowyer. Yep. Given all the turmoil, I do think this was the only sensible appointment. If It had happened in a previous era, I would have been seriously underwhelmed. The issue here is that it was Venky's, Anderson, Agnew, Shaw and Singh, who actually caused the problem to which this appointment is the only realistic solution. In this respect, I am conscious that my own expectations have been dismantled, much like the club itself. Nevertheless, I do think there is some cause for optimism in Gary Bowyer himself-emergent leadership etc- although I'd have preferred not to hear all the crap about Madame. I was looking for examples of successful Rovers managers with less previous management experience. I came up with Howard Kendall, who won promotion then missed out on another one on goal difference before enjoying real success with Everton.
Blue blood Posted May 30, 2013 Posted May 30, 2013 Its clear to me that comments towards Bowyer are just frustration at there being no changes to the Board structure at the club. Under a capable Board, Bowyer would be backed 100% by the fans I think. Last season was a disaster and those that were responsible are still around the club. If we had a capable board Bowyer wouldn't get the job! He's a good guy and all that but under a competent board we'd appoint an experienced manager. Personally saying the board do a good job is a kick in the teeth and unnecessary. He could've easily said and I can report to the board. No one thinks they do a good job, the evidence on and off the pitch - not to mention the court room - shows that they are utterly useless. So why on earth should he add in that they're doing a good job, We may have a more competent manager (albeit still a big risk) but from his comments and our current set up it seems like we're still heading for destruction. All we've done is dropped down a gear in our charge for oblivion.
dingles staying down 4ever Posted May 30, 2013 Posted May 30, 2013 Yep. Given all the turmoil, I do think this was the only sensible appointment. If It had happened in a previous era, I would have been seriously underwhelmed. The issue here is that it was Venky's, Anderson, Agnew, Shaw and Singh, who actually caused the problem to which this appointment is the only realistic solution. In this respect, I am conscious that my own expectations have been dismantled, much like the club itself. Nevertheless, I do think there is some cause for optimism in Gary Bowyer himself-emergent leadership etc- although I'd have preferred not to hear all the crap about Madame. I was looking for examples of successful Rovers managers with less previous management experience. I came up with Howard Kendall, who won promotion then missed out on another one on goal difference before enjoying real success with Everton. Do you know of any caretaker managers who have become successful as managers after having being made permanent because I can't think of any? I agree with the times have changed statement though.
rovers_rob Posted May 30, 2013 Posted May 30, 2013 Do you know of any caretaker managers who have become successful as managers after having being made permanent because I can't think of any? I agree with the times have changed statement though. Brian Mcdermott Chris Hughton Nigel Adkins Alan Pardew All of these managers started as caretakers and moved up. Admittedly they are not as successful as Fergie or Jose but they have done ok. GB has done the job twice under ridiculous circumstances and got results. At least there is evidence this time that he can actually do the job (unlike Kean) and if he can work wonders under the most bizarre circumstances in the history of football working for the worst owners ever then hopefully he can do even better given support. He has my support anyway.
dingles staying down 4ever Posted May 30, 2013 Posted May 30, 2013 Brian Mcdermott Chris Hughton Nigel Adkins Alan Pardew All of these managers started as caretakers and moved up. Admittedly they are not as successful as Fergie or Jose but they have done ok. GB has done the job twice under ridiculous circumstances and got results. At least there is evidence this time that he can actually do the job (unlike Kean) and if he can work wonders under the most bizarre circumstances in the history of football working for the worst owners ever then hopefully he can do even better given support. He has my support anyway. Fair play...I stand corrected. Those four have done well. To sound Monty Python esque....besides those 4 name some successful conversions from caretaker to permanent .
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