John Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 There is spin and the usual party lines coming out at the moment, however surely we have to get some money in and Rhodes is one of our few assets left.
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martonrover Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 Jordan Rhodes is a top goal scorer and we would miss him no doubt. However his all round game is not good enough to single handedly get us out of the division (imo). I also think that we will accept a bid of 12 million for him, is Bowyer good enough to find us a replacement? Guess we will find out soon enough He can't be expected to get us promoted single handedly but I agree re his all round game. No way a top club would be interested in my opinion. Fulham & West Ham about the best he can hope for. Hope he doesn't leave but expect he will.
Cherry Blue Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 There is spin and the usual party lines coming out at the moment, however surely we have to get some money in and Rhodes is one of our few assets left.We must hold on to our top goal scorer. Selling Rhodes as a means of covering the debt should not be an option. We have plenty of other top earners to get rid of surely.
martonrover Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 We must hold on to our top goal scorer. Selling Rhodes as a means of covering the debt should not be an option. We have plenty of other top earners to get rid of surely. Who other clubs will be willing to buy?
West Yorks Rover Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 Even if I intended to buy a season ticket I would leave it until the final week, who knows whats going to happen with these lot in charge everyone could be for sale.
chaddyrovers Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 No official bid from anyone yet. However his representatives reckons a bid £12 million bid from a unamed club (£10 million plus £2 million incentive based payments) could come in over next few days. No idea if it will be accepted or not but just at this moment there is no official bid. Could be Stoke or Norwich or Newcastle. I'll take a guess at West Ham. I cant see West ham buying Carroll and Rhodes. Carroll bid is in with Liverpool According to Nicko, Hull don't have the money to pay rovers what they want. trying to bid with a couple of players in. If a club bid for 15 million pounds for Rhodes then I think Rovers/Bowyer would sell to invest that money in the squad. Strikers we should be looking at to buy if we do lose Rhodes are Adam Le Fondre from Reading(not 1st choice there) or Billy Sharp from Southampton who is available by them, Wells from Bradford, or Madden at Yeovil. I
West Yorks Rover Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 Could be Stoke or Cardiff. I cant see West ham buying Carroll and Rhodes. Carroll bid is in with Liverpool According to Nicko, Hull don't have the money to pay rovers what they want. trying to bid with a couple of players in. If a club bid for 15 million pounds for Rhodes then I think Rovers/Bowyer would sell to invest that money in the squad. Strikers we should be looking at to buy if we do lose Rhodes are Adam Le Fondre from Reading(not 1st choice there) or Billy Sharp from Southampton who is available by them, Wells from Bradford, or Madden at Yeovil. I Sam wants a more prolific goalscorer to play alongside Carroll from what I read a few weeks ago, they'de be great together imo. Smash 'n' Grab. Like Mboro back in the seventies under Jack Charlton, can't remember the 2 players my memory is not what it was. Might have been the 80's
Mercer Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 Told you on the Season ticket thread 3 days ago that IMO he was almost certainly off with the fee nowhere near £15m and I was that confident that there was a sizeable bet riding on it. Seems some are still catching-up 3 days later or changing their minds as more info. seemingly emerges. Think GM said no sales, no pressure to sell. Hmmm.
T.J.Newton Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 Id put money on Rhodes signing a new rovers contract soon (along with the one Hanley has just signed)
West Yorks Rover Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 Told you on the Season ticket thread 3 days ago that IMO he was almost certainly off with the fee nowhere near £15m and I was that confident that there was a sizeable bet riding on it. Seems some are still catching-up 3 days later or changing their minds as more info. seemingly emerges. Think GM said no sales, no pressure to sell. Hmmm. Another new car for the wife then !
chaddyrovers Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 Told you on the Season ticket thread 3 days ago that IMO he was almost certainly off with the fee nowhere near £15m and I was that confident that there was a sizeable bet riding on it. Seems some are still catching-up 3 days later or changing their minds as more info. seemingly emerges. Think GM said no sales, no pressure to sell. Hmmm. Rovers haven't had a bid in yet for Rhodes. until Rovers accept a bid for him, he's going nowhere. IF he does, good luck to him. just hope Bowyer is lining up his replacement right now like Sharp or Le Fondre. Sharp would probably cost 2-3 million pounds to buy. proven at this level.
imy9 Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 This kind of sour grapes attitude frustates me. We shouldn't be asking him to do it single-handedly, we should be building a team around him. No doubt once he is gone we'll get more of these types of posts. Certainly not sour grapes from me. Appreciate what his goals bring to the club, however imo in the championship if you are overly reliant on goals from one individual who contributes little else, what happens when he is injured? Just my opinion.
Mercer Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 Rovers haven't had a bid in yet for Rhodes. until Rovers accept a bid for him, he's going nowhere. IF he does, good luck to him. just hope Bowyer is lining up his replacement right now like Sharp or Le Fondre. Sharp would probably cost 2-3 million pounds to buy. proven at this level. . And which reliable sources of yours has confirmed that ?
Stuart Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 Could be Stoke or Norwich or Newcastle. I've said it before but I could see Rhodes in a Newcastle shirt somehow.
West Yorks Rover Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 If Rhodes does go, they should look to Spain for a bargain, probably get a fairly decent top striker for peanuts. maybe on a free, if you pay them a decent wage. I'm pretty sure GB would look for one with the right attitude and qualities for the Championship.
glen9mullan Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 Told you on the Season ticket thread 3 days ago that IMO he was almost certainly off with the fee nowhere near £15m and I was that confident that there was a sizeable bet riding on it. Seems some are still catching-up 3 days later or changing their minds as more info. seemingly emerges. Think GM said no sales, no pressure to sell. Hmmm. Seeing as the Rhodes conversation with india only happened late last night no need for a catch up , it's easy to speculate what might happen as its 50/50 stay or go . However until last night the club had no reason to think Rhodes would have one or two issues which are bothering him . Saying that though on the no pressure to sell anyone, that remains . If players want to leave Rovers won't keep hold of them , they want everyone squad wise singing from same hymn sheet .
roverandout Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 selling Rhodes would only unmask the ineptitude of the rest of the squad, without his goals, we would already be down
West Yorks Rover Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 GM mentions influence from players/coaching staff, now I wonder if a brown envelope is on offer to the certain person/people who point Jordan's head in the direction of a particular club. We don't have anyone down at Ewood who would be up for that do we?
Stuart Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 Seems to me that the Rhodes £8m was a one season gamble to get back to the PL with the insurance that we'll at least get our money back. Invent a story that he's not happy, like many better players before him and back to Plan F. Or is it Plan R?
Steve Kean's Hypnotoad Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 Its all been pretty predictable from the start of the summer regarding Rhodes and personally I don't think goings on at the club are unsettling him and I don't think Venkys would be displaying a lack of ambition etc if they let him leave. From his point of view he has to leave if the offer comes in cause a 23-year old striker who can score 30 goals in the Championship, can't stay at a bottom half team. From our point of view we have no reason to sell him for anything but top dollar because he's on a long contract, cost us a lot of money, and has just had the best season of his career. But also from our point of view if we get the big offer then making a multi-million pound profit is a better option than keeping an unsettled player. Those 3 sentences to me are the only things that come into it and from the start have dictated he's going for £10m+ if anyone is willing to pay it.
Mercer Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 Seeing as the Rhodes conversation with india only happened late last night no need for a catch up , it's easy to speculate what might happen as its 50/50 stay or go . However until last night the club had no reason to think Rhodes would have one or two issues which are bothering him . Saying that though on the no pressure to sell anyone, that remains . If players want to leave Rovers won't keep hold of them , they want everyone squad wise singing from same hymn sheet . Do you really think that the Rhodes' camp would only have started considering future options yesterday ? Any advisors worth their salt will hold regular discussions with their players. Rightly or wrongly, surely you know that very often a selling club is at the back of the queue when it comes to knowing a player's real intentions.
Stuart Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 Its all been pretty predictable from the start of the summer regarding Rhodes and personally I don't think goings on at the club are unsettling him and I don't think Venkys would be displaying a lack of ambition etc if they let him leave. From his point of view he has to leave if the offer comes in cause a 23-year old striker who can score 30 goals in the Championship, can't stay at a bottom half team. From our point of view we have no reason to sell him for anything but top dollar because he's on a long contract, cost us a lot of money, and has just had the best season of his career. But also from our point of view if we get the big offer then making a multi-million pound profit is a better option than keeping an unsettled player. Those 3 sentences to me are the only things that come into it and from the start have dictated he's going for £10m+ if anyone is willing to pay it. Can we really afford to keep him?Do we have good enough poker players in Shaw, Agnew and Singh to hold out for £10m+? Then there's the small matter of where our goals are coming from without him. It's not looking like a good deal for Rovers in my opinion.
Steve Kean's Hypnotoad Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 Can we really afford to keep him? Do we have good enough poker players in Shaw, Agnew and Singh to hold out for £10m+? Then there's the small matter of where our goals are coming from without him. It's not looking like a good deal for Rovers in my opinion. We are Venkys where money's concerned, Venkys can afford to buy 10 of him if they wanted to. You're right about the 3 stooges being able to mess up nearly anything, but in this case we're holding all the cards. Long contract + no release clause = big fee. If we don't get a big fee, Rhodes sulks for a month or 2, realises he's stuck here until he convinces someone he's worth £10m, and then gets back to doing what he does. Either outcome works for us, we've no reason whatsoever to sell him cheap. I think the opposite personally. Either we're getting a lot of money to strengthen the squad as a whole and stop it from being a 1-man team, or we're keeping that 1 man. I don't see how this can end up being a bad deal for us. We took a big gamble on Rhodes last season, £8m and 5 years would have ended up costing us a fortune if he hadn't been as good as everyone said. Well he was, and we're now in a strong position because of that gamble.
LDRover Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 Told you on the Season ticket thread 3 days ago that IMO he was almost certainly off with the fee nowhere near £15m and I was that confident that there was a sizeable bet riding on it. Seems some are still catching-up 3 days later or changing their minds as more info. seemingly emerges. Think GM said no sales, no pressure to sell. Hmmm. Not doubting you Merce but I've looked high and low for a market for Rhodes to leave and not found one. Who is your 'sizeable bet' placed with and what odds did you get?
Mercer Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 Not doubting you Merce but I've looked high and low for a market for Rhodes to leave and not found one. Who is your 'sizeable bet' placed with and what odds did you get? Try this for starters: http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/jordan-rhodes/club-after-summer-transfer-window
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